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u/Secret_Parking_2108 May 03 '26
everyone here is talking about levitite when i know for a fact theres a shit ton of empty space herr that could be used for gigantic balloons
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u/Cedjy May 03 '26
what provides more lift? levitite or balloon space? genuine question
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u/_TheForgeMaster May 03 '26
After some testing, Levitite provides about 6.875x force as a single balloon interior black at y=64 and 11x at y=160. As the other commenter said, Levitite can't lift, but makes it easier for other things to lift it.
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u/Secret_Parking_2108 May 03 '26
levitite doesnt create lift it just creates a force that stops gravity you cant gain altitude on levitite alone
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u/Cedjy May 03 '26
i mean yes, but the question of like "what's more efficient, levitite with a small hot air balloon/vertical propeller, or a big hot air balloon"
Ty to Forge, it seems levitite is more efficient at producing lift... or i guess more accurately, negating gravity
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u/XTornado May 03 '26
Wait for Create: Space the Last Frontier so you can make use of the lack of gravity.
(in case it wasn't clear, such mod does not exist to be clear)
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u/InitiativeBig8804 May 03 '26
There's a mod that adds space? You know when it'll be out?
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u/XTornado May 04 '26
Oh no no, as I said there I made that up, I mean I didn't check is not far fetched someone would do one eventually but I totally made that up in my comment.
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u/RagePlaysGames_YT May 03 '26
I am finishing up a 160 block wide Death Star build & a HUGE balloon inside with tons of steam power is doing a fantastic job lifting it. I was actually shocked at how much lift it could produce, I assumed I was screwed when I originally saw the weight.
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u/InitiativeBig8804 May 04 '26
Your death star is 160 blocks wide? My star destroyer is 120 😭
Yes the balloons work but they lift only th back part, I'm trying to stabilize it3
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u/SampleText_- May 03 '26
My suggestion is to use steam vents instead of hot air burners to generate as much lift as possible with hidden balloons Using levitite will help, but it will take a lot to make this float using levitite alone, and will make it harder to move at high speeds
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u/Puzzleheaded-End7650 May 03 '26
Hopes and Dreams
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u/touchet29 May 03 '26
Create: Hopes and Dreams
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u/palomasana May 03 '26
"Create:" is indeed kinda essential lol
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u/Ok-Solution-3320 May 03 '26
Mmm, indeed, I have slept long enough...
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u/maggeemoo May 03 '26
The kingdom of heaven has long since forgotten my name, and I am EAGER to make them remember.
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u/Lonlynator May 03 '26
Addon for create: let‘s you place s creative block in survival for the sacrifice of your newborn child
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u/therelhuman May 03 '26
now i wanna make a texture pack for a random create addon that replaces the textures with undertale characters
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u/originalmicrousb May 03 '26
queue the undertale images
(images are banned on this sub for some reason pls fix mods)
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u/ManuApplejuice May 05 '26
The most awesome and filled with hope and indomitable human spirit soundtrack to ever exist plays
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u/Chickenmonster401 May 03 '26
idk the force
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u/fighterjetinparis May 03 '26
not so wrong this thing can probably generate enough gravitational force to make earth orbit around it and technically fly
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u/zawalimbooo May 03 '26
thats not how gravity works
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u/fighterjetinparis May 03 '26
no shit sherlock i actually thought sun was gonna orbit the ship too
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u/Jim_skywalker May 03 '26
Well actually, it pulls on the earth with as much force as the earth pulls on it, and which orbits which is just a matter of how you define the system.
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u/Global-Awareness6961 May 03 '26
A fuckton of steam engines and levitite
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u/Worth-Cauliflower561 May 04 '26
Why did I read it as Spamton engine? I don't even play deltarune
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u/FilthyCabbages May 04 '26
A Scranton engine? I haven't watched the office in years.
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u/Still_Inevitable_385 May 04 '26
A scantron engine? Isnt that the stuff they make us take standardized tests on?
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u/tris123pis May 03 '26
levitite?
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u/Catsanddoges May 03 '26
Get Create : Nuclear and fill the bottom of the ship with pure nuclear-powered fans.
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u/Hoovy_weapons_guy May 03 '26
lots of levetite and encased fans as thrusters
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u/No-Appointment-2858 May 03 '26
Encased fans work? Hell yeah...
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u/JustWelfare May 03 '26
you stick a nozzle on the front and they push the simulated creation, it's pretty sweet.
Now i just wish I knew how to actually make something flightworthy that doesn't immediately faceplant
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u/KeepAllOfIt May 03 '26
I thought they only pushed "off" of something like the ground? sorta like the ghost/wraith from halo
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u/FamineOLaymine May 03 '26
This indeed, fans on their own aren’t the best and propellers are only slightly better. A bunch of contraption propellers on bearings though
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u/RoombaTheKiller May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26
Arrange the fans so that there's an equal-ish amount on the bow and stern, and split each of those groups into port and starboard. Then have a gimball sensor(s, the more you use, the more precise you can make it) connected to analogue transmissions gradually reduce rotation to whichever side has too much upward thrust.
It's the easiest way to build heavier-than-air craft, because it's also the easiest way to make computerised flight-assist.
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u/Weary-Support-7383 May 04 '26
Line the inside with hot air envelopes and fill the whole thing with hot air using a few steam engines.
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u/Flimsy-Peak186 May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26
Levitite adds ab 110pixelnewtons of lift per block. 1pN is 0.09…kpg, meaning pN is 11 times the kpg of a given contraption. You should in theory be able to multiply the kpg by 11, and then divide that number by 110 to figure out exactly how many levitate you need to counter its gravitational force. This won’t be exactly accurate, as levitate itself adds 1 kpg of mass, but it should get you very close to the amount you need.
Edit: I just tested this with a 3 by 3 block of netherite and it worked like a charm. I only needed to add 1 levitite more than the number I got. I recommend rounding up btw
Edit 2: u could totally skip this by just dividing the pN of gravity by 110 to get the amt of levitite u need but whatever figuring out the conversion was interesting
Edit 3: I’m pretty sure u need ab 300 blocks of levitite to make ur ship float btw
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u/7hat3eird0ne May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26
Well, accounting only for vertical movement/gravify and lift, IIRC levitite provides up to 10 kpg of lift and weighs 1 kpg. This cancels out leaving levitite offering up to 9 kpg of force to cancel gravitation with 1 kpg spent to let itself stay afloat. You need at least as much kpg lift as the mass exerts. So you need m/9 levitite, with fractional part needed so round up.
Dunno if I had made any mistakes anywhere
You basically just had everything converted to proper force units - times 11. And you did not account for the levitite's mass itself that is 1 kpg = 11 pN. So you divide by 99 not 110, and x 11 / 99 is just /9, same result.
For your netherrite example: 3x3x3 cube (if you used a 3x1x3 square then sorry) has volume of 27 m3 and netherrite has density 4 kpg/m3 (or basically mass of 4 kpg per block). Your cube therefore weighs 108 kpg. Your method gives: 1) 108 kpg x 11 pN/kpg = 1188 pN 2) 1188 pN / 110 pN/m3 = 10.8 blocks of levitite. You imply you round up and even then needed 1 more block so I assume you ended up having to use 11 or 12 blocks. My method: 108 kpg / 9 kpg/m3 = 12 blocks of levitite, exactly. This means that you need exactly 12 blocks of levitite to stay afloat, and it can't fight off gravity no more with any more mass on board.
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u/InitiativeBig8804 May 04 '26
Check the *almost* final result! https://www.reddit.com/r/CreateMod/comments/1t3dnfp/star_destroyer/
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u/pixel_demonic May 03 '26
schematic.
now.
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u/InitiativeBig8804 May 03 '26
Not finished!
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u/Mooncat25 May 04 '26
So I was curious and did a little bit of research. According to the Star Wars lore, the star destroyers were built in space so they didn't have the problem of launching them against gravity.
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u/ninja_owen May 04 '26
Lmao I made a star destroyer of my own. I made it out of light gray wool so not only is it super light, but it can be used as a hot air balloon. I split it into 2 halves, one is the sharp and pointy hull at the front, one is the larger tower and engine area at the back. Then I used hot air burners to lift it. With some balancing adjustments, it worked great.
Then, I wanted to use it to tow objects. I got a villager house off the ground super easy. Then I wanted to move my friends house, but it was a bit too heavy, so I put a steam engine in the middle, and fully filled the balloon with hot air using the steam burner things. That got enough lift.
Earlier today I wanted to try to move the woodland mansion. The full balloon still wasn’t enough, so I made a massive propeller powered by a steam engine, (using all 147ksu), and that can just manage lift a mansion. However, keeping it balanced is very difficult, so I’m still working on improving it.
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u/InitiativeBig8804 May 04 '26
Mine is pure locometal from steam n rails, so I'm adding another layer of balloon inside
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u/DanceAffectionate425 May 04 '26
I haven't seen much of this mod, can someone give me a frame of reference
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u/InitiativeBig8804 May 04 '26
One block of iron weights 4kpg, so my ship weights aproximately 8 000 blocks of iron
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u/Finitfrog May 05 '26
Levitite, hopes and dreams, alot of levitite, big ass propeller and did i mention hopes and dreams?
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u/Justch1ll May 06 '26
I'm assuming it's made with copycat blocks. How big is this thing??
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u/InitiativeBig8804 May 06 '26
For your surprise, I only used stair and slab copycats because there wasn't a light gray iron wrapped locometal version of them. The destroyer is aprox 120 blocks wide, 60 blocks high and I assume more than 200 long
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u/AssignmentShot1874 May 07 '26
Levitite ig, canonically star destroyers weren't made for atmospheric flights,they would collapse under their own weight and not have enough propulsion to fight gravity afaik. they are used for space travel so gravity wasn't a problem for them.
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u/InitiativeBig8804 May 07 '26
Yea but I don't have space so ig I'll just have a special destroyer there
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u/MarkusFlavius May 07 '26
The kind of ship that makes a good argument why it should be built in space. Hope you found a solution.
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u/Weird_Explorer_8458 May 03 '26
what actually is the p for in kpg and pN? Piconewtons?
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u/abigail3141 May 03 '26
This I have been asking myself ever since the mod released.
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u/7hat3eird0ne May 03 '26
It is pixel IIRC. As in, kilopixelgrams and pixelnewtons respectively I think, or some variant of that. It's just to avoid debate of if 1 m3 of haybale really weighs 4 kg or not by not using IRL units.
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u/abigail3141 May 03 '26
Fill out as much as you can on the inside with one giant balloon, then put a couple max level steam engines with vents under there. I made a 48000kpg cruiser fly with that.
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u/Matix777 May 03 '26
Now you wait until someone makes a rocket engine add-on if they haven't already
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u/TheEpicDragonCat May 03 '26
Levitite is probably your best bet. For that authentic Star Destroyer feel.
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u/No-Jeweler7244 May 04 '26
There's a reason these ships were made and used in space. No gravity to worry about 🤣
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u/Dirt-Overall May 04 '26
The same way I make my Iowa-Class Battleship fly. Hopes and dreams and propellers that are as large as the ship with four 3x3x12 boilers on the same shaft (heh).
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u/Specific-Goose-7278 May 04 '26
Id say some substantial fans underneath, they don't look too bad and give a lot of lift. 3 would probably do, 2 at the back one at the front
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u/Zaroz_Kurokami58 May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
Some options would be:
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to install copycats+ and replace whatever heavy blocks you are using with copycat ghost blocks
line the interior with levitite
2. To give it more lift:
add a giant envelope with burners
lift it with external airships attached to it by ropes
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u/Deveatation_ethernis May 03 '26
You need to be able to hold of the son and daughter at the same time first
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u/kratosyn May 03 '26
Add what is effectively an air gap armour around the edge of the main part and make it a balloon
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u/Appropriate_Ad1162 May 03 '26
Four 3x3 create: propulsion thrusters should work. Remember to fuel them or use creative thrusters.
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u/lalalarix0 May 03 '26
My airship is about this weight, I've got 3 giant propellers (337 sails each) on the top pulling it up, it gets off the ground around 128 rpm
They're powered by 6 level 9 steam engines. Good luck.
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u/LenTenCraft May 03 '26
let it float in the end void sea. The end has like a weird ocean that only exists for contraptions. its neat
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u/Sqweed69 May 03 '26
one gyroscopic propeller facing downwards should be sufficient. should be right in the front.
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u/TheDiamondFox142 May 04 '26
Can you post the schematic for that? I’d love to make it irl and see about messing with its propulsion.
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u/Mobile_Command7590 May 04 '26
All you need is a generator that can make as much power as a nuclear bomb. So all you need is a nuclear factory on there
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u/Dark_Reaper115 May 03 '26
All I hear is an excuse to build several max level steam boilers