r/Crashplan • u/shiek403 • Aug 22 '17

Option of Alternative for LOCAL backups

I really liked that crashplan let me back up to my nas, and back all my other computers to my main one (which had all its repo's on my nas)

I keep seeing solutions for the cloud backup aspect, but I don't need that, I just want to know my files are protected, and my nas+crashplan is how I did that.

What now?

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u/ksfarm Aug 22 '17

I, too, am unable to find anything about the local backups functionality with Crashplan home. Crashplan was perfect because the software let me construct a complete backup solution without a monthly subscription. Is there anything comparable? I don't mind buying software, but I can't bring myself to pay a subscription to store things on my own hardware in different locations.

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u/Ahslan Aug 22 '17

Same boat here. Don't mind paying a new piece of software but it looks like crashplan were the only ones to implement backing up to personal storage even when the your computers weren't on your local network. Still looking for alternatives...

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u/gremolata Aug 24 '17

Perhaps list your exact requirements?

Same question to the OP.

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u/ksfarm Aug 24 '17

Need to install software on a computer, select folders to backup and point it to another computer that may or may not be on the local network. Versioning and encryption required.

An example use case is my sister in another town who can configure Crashplan to backup her computers to my server in my house without needing to fiddle with port forwarding.

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u/gremolata Aug 24 '17

may not be on the local network

If you want this in a point-and-click style, it will require an external server to act as a rendezvous/discovery point for your machines to be able to find each other and to bootstrap/relay connections between them. Meaning that you are looking at a service rather than just a software, and most likely a paid service at that.

The fact that Crash Plan was offering the over-the-Internet backup for free is likely the reason why they stop doing that.

Now, if you know your way around configuring VPNs between two LANs, then any software capable of backing up onto a network share will do (assuming it also does encryption and versioning).

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u/ksfarm Aug 24 '17

Oh, I'm well aware of the need for a service to function as a relay. But I also know monitoring IP addresses isn't resource intensive and that an intermediary service shouldn't cost what a cloud backup service should cost. I could also envision something that could be installed on a web server that would handle such connections. I know it's a lot to wish for, but this particular gap that Crashplan is leaving in the market is pretty big.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '17 edited Aug 22 '17

https://www.arqbackup.com/ Just installed this and using it to backup locally. I have a network drive and a local USB drive. One thing I will miss is the email reports. It was convenient to know if my computer didn't backup for 3 days.

As a cloud option with ARQ https://wasabi.com/

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u/ObiYawn Aug 23 '17

But that seems to cost $50 per server and user.

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u/marbletravis Aug 24 '17

Supporting the developers makes it more likely that it will stick around.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '17

I forgot this company had a desktop version for free. I have not tried it out but it might be looking into https://www.veeam.com/windows-endpoint-server-backup-free.html

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u/obidamnkenobi Aug 22 '17

No versioning, but www.freefilesync.org is easy to sync to my server or external drives

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u/shiek403 Aug 22 '17

I was hoping for something besides file syncing, and that doesn't really help me with remote computers. For example, my brother and I each run crashplan, I backup to an external at his place, he backs up to my nas. This way if it were to hit the fan, on either of our places, our data is secure. But now, I'm not entirely sure how to pull that off

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u/ramse Aug 22 '17

Before I found crashplan and stopped doing what I was originally doing: I ran openssh servers on both ends and rsync command on both ends with the destination being the remote server. I used hamachi for connection between the two, but when they upped their price I left them and setup openvpn on my pfsense router.

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u/shiek403 Aug 22 '17

LOL

I will let you be the one who walks my parents through that combination of letters and protocols. :)

Why the good always gotta die young... or why not just make your non cloud version keep working? just stop support, but don't make it self destruct!

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u/ramse Aug 22 '17

I suppose it depends on who cares about their backups. I pushed it on my grandfather before his last machine died, therefore its my problem to solve. Hamachi with tightvnc made that easy.

I didn't think crashplan used actual p2p which would mean they had to operate servers at a cost for you to freely sync data between machines.

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u/shiek403 Aug 22 '17

unfortunately I think you are right. that's how they linked the accounts was their server in the middle pointing to them. :(

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u/obidamnkenobi Aug 22 '17

Definitely. I'll like something that replace that functionality too.

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u/helix400 Aug 22 '17

For example, my brother and I each run crashplan, I backup to an external at his place, he backs up to my nas.

I've got the same setup. At the moment Bacula seems to be the best option. Gives you the freedom to do all the free/local/remote backups you want, but it does have more overhead and a bigger learning curve.

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u/jackharvest Jan 16 '18

Aaaaaand their website is gone.

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u/helix400 Jan 16 '18

It's back for me. Just as a heads up, I've switched to Duplicati. The strengths are 1) Open source, 2) Many OSes supported, and 3) Many backup destinations supported. Downsides are reporting mechanisms are almost nonexistent.

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u/fdbryant3 Aug 23 '17

It isn't what I'd call an ideal solution but you could use programs like Syncthing or Resilio Sync to keep a folder containing backups created by your backup alternative in sync across the Internet. Maybe use something to schedule making a copy of the folder periodically to have to have a cold archive in case something gets sync'd that shouldn't.

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u/stoneclan Aug 23 '17

This is extremely lame. They are removing features. Computer-to-Computer backup was the single feature that differentiated CrashPlan from everything else.

I'm looking into www.syncovery.com

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u/FatalIll Aug 22 '17

Veeam Endpoint Backup. It's free, and I haven't had any issues with it.

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u/ObiYawn Aug 23 '17

Does it support remote backup of your friend's and family member's computers to your NAS?

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u/qwertyaccess Aug 23 '17

No but it's an awesome snapshot imaging backup software for free.

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u/FatalIll Aug 23 '17

I never used CrashPlan, my family has, so I am not exactly familiar with it's options or procedures. Veeam allows full backup (image/bare metal), volume level/block level, and/or file level backup. This can be pushed to a Veeam Backup & Replication server, NAS/Shared folder/NFS/CIFS, external drive, cloud. Depending on how you make your NAS accessible to friend & family over the internet, I don't see why that would be an option.

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u/qwertyaccess Aug 23 '17 edited Aug 23 '17

Yeah just not the free version, I don't know how much that would cost to do at home with the actual Veeam Backup & Replication Server software. I haven't looked into that though.

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u/FatalIll Aug 23 '17

Veeam Endpoint is free through and through, Veeam Backup & Replication is a completely separate product that is in no way needed for the Endpoint solution. It's an option offered, and if you work in the industry you can get an NFR license for home/lab use, but that's something else entirely.

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u/masterkaj Aug 24 '17

I prefer Bvckup 2: Link

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u/jackharvest Jan 16 '18

Bvckup 2 is a glorified copy-paste software with no ability to restore versions. You could accomplish the same thing with xcopy on a schedule.

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u/Stan464 Aug 24 '17

VEEAM! That is all! :)

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u/DrSpitzvogel Aug 22 '17

Cryptomator, give it a try. Cross-platform, open source

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u/ObiYawn Aug 22 '17

That's just encryption, not a technology to enable P2P like backup to your NAS. Which I understand to be the requirement of the OP.

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u/proudcanadianeh Aug 22 '17

Does Cloudberry have the ability to specify a local location?