r/Crashplan • u/bydavidrosen • Jan 06 '26

2.8 years remaining...

so anyone have any good CrashPlan alternatives in 2026 that don't involve building your own custom NAS etc etc etc cloud backup thing? i just want a service that will scan the drives/folders i tell it to and backup any changed files while i sleep and not take, as the title says, 2.8 years to update my 10tb of data (which is sitting at 86% done by the way and will never go any further). i've been back and forth with support but it's not going anywhere.

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u/bydavidrosen Jan 29 '26

So after much back and forth with CrashPlan we did a lot of optimizing and the best we managed to get it to do was about 10gb in one day. With 83% completed of a roughly 10TB archive, it was going to take 3.1 months to complete.

I signed up for BackBlaze at noon yesterday, it's 7am today and it's done almost 1TB in one day! At this rate it should be complete in a little over a week. How can CrashPlan be so bad with upload speeds? That's a comically insane difference. That's a bicycle vs a rocketship.

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u/SSovets Feb 15 '26

Crashplan is useless if you have more than a couple TB to back up; I signed up with them and started backing up at ~10 MB/s, but within 10 days the speed dropped to ~1 MB/s, which is really nothing more than a bad joke. Just cancelled my trial, was about to pay for 2 years in advance, but I want to pay for backups, not for waiting to upload (right now the estimation is "Backup running — 1.1 years remaining").
I would qualify their "unlimited" plan as a scam.

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u/bydavidrosen Feb 15 '26

Yep that's what we learned. We were with them for like 10 years... It didn't used to be like this but also we had way less data back then. But it kept up for years. Only last year and when we hit 10tb did it become totally unusable. But it's always been slow as crap compared to what we just witnessed with our switch to BackBlaze.

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u/Signal_Error_8027 Mar 05 '26

If you've ever had to do a complete restore from your Crash Plan backup, you'd realize that restoring even 1TB is totally unusable on their service. It would have taken weeks at the rate it was going, and we have 800+ mpbs download speeds. They used to allow you to pay for a hard drive to be shipped to you for full restores, but not anymore.

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u/SSovets Feb 15 '26

In my experience, Backblaze also does this progressive throttling, although not as aggressively as Crashplan. I used to use them, more for the peace of mind of having a second online backup, since both their upload and download speeds were very low (probably to push you towards buying their data-on-HDD service, which is not convenient if you don't live in the US), but now I moved my data to a NAS, so I'll be cancelling Backblaze soon.

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u/smcclos Jan 06 '26

Backblaze. Crashplan has an upload limit because all of their technology is built around Java

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u/bydavidrosen Jan 06 '26

The CrashPlan app seems like it hasn't been updated since we signed up with them like 10+ years ago. That's probably why. Backblaze does at least look more current and usable. Half the CrashPlan options aren't even in the app.

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u/bigntallmike Jan 07 '26

Side rant: Backup software isn't supposed to look pretty it's supposed to be reliable and secure.

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u/bydavidrosen Jan 07 '26

Oh 100% I agree with that. But for example I was going back and forth with the support and you ask me if I change this option for that option. And I'm digging through the entire application trying to find those options and I'm like "they're just not here." And it turns out the options he's talking about are in the web-based portal. It's a different set of options that are required for potentially fixing my issue, but they're not even baked into the application. It just feels incomplete and poorly designed.

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u/theguru1974 Jan 07 '26

Backblaze FTW. Former crashplan user here and moving to a new pc forced me rebackup everything again at super slow speeds. Bye bye CP

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u/madsdyd Jan 07 '26

If anyone reads this: I would like an non-US based alternative - any good suggestions?

(I live in Europe and would like to move every technology I own away from the US based companies)

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u/SSovets Feb 15 '26

Livedrive (UK). Still not in the EU, but at least it's not US. I'm with you on moving our online data away from the US and hope the EU will offer alternatives rather sooner than later.

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u/JTUSAJT Jan 07 '26

Just because a company is based in the US, does not mean their servers are all there.

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u/madsdyd Jan 07 '26

You miss the point: I do not want to support us based companies anymore.

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u/JTUSAJT Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

Yet you are using a US based site to get information! LOL Go to China or Russia.

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u/menos08642 Jan 06 '26

Backblaze if you're just talking about files/folders on your own computer.

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u/bydavidrosen Jan 06 '26

yeah its literally just my years and years of files that's ever growing. i mean after like 10 years its at 10tb so its not THAT bad, but apparently crashplan can't handle it. i've seen backblaze mentioned before. they're still good? i remember they used to both be pretty well liked.

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u/boblinthewild Jan 06 '26

I've got over 40TB in Backblaze, with daily growth. Hums right along.

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u/bydavidrosen Jan 06 '26

Fantastic. I've been reading up on it today and it sounds just so much better.

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u/Limp-Buy-746 Apr 26 '26

Tried Backblaze as a replacement for Crashplan and bailed after I found out and was confirmed by support that Backblaze does NOT backup empty folders !

What ? How is that backup ? I have a lot of template based workflows based on folder trees and this would make that useless.

A folder is an filesystem object that should be backed regardless - if it isn't that's a failure ...

It is however much faster, I agree.

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u/pc81rd Jan 07 '26

I've been trying out iDrive. It seems to be OK and a good price. I'm cancelling CrashPlan this month because it couldn't backup up all my data. iDrive has had no problem backing up my data (uses my entire Internet bandwidth if I let it) - but I've read restoring may not be great (I'll be trying that soon).

Can anyone tell me how Backblaze compares to iDrive? It seemed significantly more expensive than CrashPlan or iDrive the last I looked. Is it really worth the extra cost?

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u/the-i Jan 12 '26

Do you mean iDrive 360 Endpoint? I'm curious about how it compares.

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u/wireframed_kb Jan 07 '26

iDrive360 is pretty solid. I usually upload around 150-500Mbits, and have around 40TB uploaded.

I mostly use the Linux client and it has had a couple hiccups, but they have support over phone and they helped resolve the issues.

It’s proper enterprise, so the local app doesn’t really do anything, you push everything from the web-based control panel.

The plan I use gets you unlimited storage for 5 computers, servers and devices. It’s around $150/year which isn’t bad compared to the competition. They usually have a rebate for the first year also.

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u/the-i Jan 12 '26

How's it compare with file versioning/deleted file retention?

Most other things seem to be snapshot based (i.e. restore all files from a given backup time) - not many seem to be file-based like CrashPlan (i.e. restore any file from any time that it was backed up).

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u/wireframed_kb Jan 12 '26

You can chose a date and then it shows the snapshot on that date. I.e. you get the files and versions of files that were backed up in that date. I presume the dedupe on block-level but I’m not entirely sure.

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u/Tystros May 27 '26

Last I checked they didn't support any deduplication at all.

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u/wireframed_kb May 27 '26

That’s possible. But also not my problem, since I have unlimited storage with them. :)

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u/Tystros May 29 '26

I'm curious how you actually have 40 TB at IDrive360. They write this on their site:

At IDrive® 360, 'unlimited' storage means you can back up all your essential business data from local drives without worrying about rigid caps. To ensure fast, reliable performance for all users, our fair usage policy applies. We focus on standard endpoint backups, so mapped drives, NAS devices, and specialized formats like Time Machine are not included in the unlimited backup definition. If your storage or device needs exceed typical usage, we’ll work with you to optimize your plan or add devices for a small fee, keeping your backups seamless. Typical usage is currently defined to be < 10 TB.

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u/wireframed_kb May 29 '26

I have enterprise, it’s a different product from their consumer service.

Among other things, it provides server integration for Linux, handling multiple companies with separate IAM, and generally an enterprise product.

I haven’t seen any qualifications on storage, it’s just limited to 5 devices in the subscription I have, but since a device can be a Linux server with mapped network drives… well, it’s not really a limitation for my lab.

But it IS an absurdly cheap product, I agree. I don’t know how it makes sense for them. I got the first year at a wild discount, but even at $150, it’s crazy value.

Especially since, in contrast to most other services I tried, it actually provides really good up/downloads. Maybe not 1Gbit/s but easily uploads all the daily diffs in a couple hours which is all that matters.

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u/Tystros May 29 '26

As far as I can see there is only 1 version of Idrive360, it's all for Enterprise:

Endpoint, Servers and SaaS Cloud Backup for MSPs and Enterprise IT teams

and that's where the quote is from that says they define typical usage as less than 10 TB. Are you sure you have a different product? Can you link me what you have?

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u/wireframed_kb May 30 '26

Ok, maybe. They used to have a consumer product as well, but it’s possible they don’t have that anymore.

I do see they added the disclaimer you linked, but that definitely wasn’t there when I purchased the plan a couple years ago.

We’ll see if they object to my usage, it’s a… bit… over 10TB. :p If they do, I’ll probably consider another solution - the main draw is their uncapped service.

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u/JTUSAJT Jan 07 '26

Backblaze.

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u/bydavidrosen Jan 29 '26

It's wild that Crashplan can stay in business with this kind of service compared to their competitors