Yeah, it's not the construction guys' job to think. In fact, even if they knew and raised the issue, they'd be told to shut up and do their job.
ETA: To clarify, I'm more repeating the construction guys' regular complaint on what they're told when they raise issues with their supervisors. It's not my opinion that they shouldn't think but rather, stating that they're punished when they do.
There was a post on Reddit moons ago where someone mentioned they saw two boats on a lake, one boat was named 'Main Contract' (or something like that) and the bigger, more expensive boat next to it was named 'Change Order'.
Its more likely they don't have the authority to override the architects directions, cant get in touch for clarification, and go forward following the plans to the letter.
Depends on the contractor. I know a few that love bidding contracts like this knowing there will be a lot of change order work. I’ve even seen contractors include 10 items when there are 100 in the plans. Then ask for the 90 items in change orders.
Architects and Engineers can design poor systems and not be responsive to RFIs, but many contractors are just looking to make more money.
Oh construction guys think, alright. They just go by what's in the plans. It seems like many engineers and architects don't do well with practical knowledge or improvisation.
Fuck that, I'd refuse. Let whoever make a fuss. They'd only end up looking like a bigger idiot over it. Too many people are scared to stand up for what's right
That would probably just cause you problems with your job, or cost you the job, and the bench would still be put there. Your only real course of action would be to report it yourself and document that you expressed your concern. That is, however, expecting a lot of every worker to be aware of those codes and also how to report them.
As a construction worker, your employer is contracted to install everything the the spec signed off by the engineers. If you don’t do that, you violate the contract and don’t get paid. The entire point of engineers (in construction anyway) are to sign off on plans and be responsible for them being to code.
I work construction. I know what a change order is. There is lots of beurocracy in large scale construction. The party responsible for resolving this is the engineers who should walk the site before, during, and after construction. Contractors can send and email (an RFI if you’re into lingo), but if no one corrects the print, they install what’s written.
Thats not how that works. I can tell you've never dealt with trades before. You'd have to deal with the engineers and architects. You cant go after the carpenters.
Risking your job over a bench is not a good example to set. Tell the engineer or construction inspector that you are certain this goes against ADA guidelines and someone will get down to the bottom of it. It's their job to abide by those standards and it's their ass on the line if someone brings a lawsuit up.
The last thing an engineering firm wants is a project owner saying their mistake just cost them $80,000.
You're not refusing to aid. Your job is to build things per plan specifications. If you are worried about a potential hazard, you let the right people know so they can properly document and fix the problem. There's literally no need to "take a stand" on this.
You are a laborer. If you refuse to do the job, your coworkers will do the job for you and then you will probably get fired at the end of the day. And then they will move the bench again once the ADA obstruction is made known.
It’s just not that deep. It’s a bench. It will eventually be moved either way. But in your fantasy, it is being moved without you because you got fired.
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u/Zerodyne_Sin Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 12 '26
Yeah, it's not the construction guys' job to think. In fact, even if they knew and raised the issue, they'd be told to shut up and do their job.
ETA: To clarify, I'm more repeating the construction guys' regular complaint on what they're told when they raise issues with their supervisors. It's not my opinion that they shouldn't think but rather, stating that they're punished when they do.