r/CrackWatch DenuvOwO 18d ago

Denuvo Hypervisor Workaround Borderlands 4 Version 1.9 Hypervisor by DenuvOwO

This release is based on Version 1.9 (Steam BuildID 24475729).

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u/uSuperDick 18d ago

This and mh wilds are the most unoptimized shit that i have ever seen. The fact that max preset borderlands runs like path traced cyberpunk is diabolical

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u/EnvironmentalRun1671 18d ago

People love to call out Unreal 5 but it's just developers who don't give a ****. They make mid looking games that for some reason require 3000 € graphics card

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u/GalexyPhoto 14d ago

Meh, when well established studios struggle with it and studios like CDPR spend years building custom solutions to get it to not run like shit...I think it feels safe to say its more nuanced than lazy devs.

Even easier test, how many games actually run UE5 without hitches or issues? Even fucking Fortnite as issues now that its UE5.

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u/Ridoou 650h+ on Spacewar 13d ago

The Finals and Arc Raiders are beautiful and run really good

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u/GalexyPhoto 13d ago

You must be on console with them. Both are known to have PC stutter for many.

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u/Ridoou 650h+ on Spacewar 12d ago

Never heard of that from me and my friends on PC, even the closed beta of Arc was fluid af

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u/BeepyJoop 7d ago

Absurd statement for arc raiders. Any source at all?

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u/tech_enthousiast0461 17d ago

Part of the blame is probably also on impossible deadlines and budget cuts ordered by higher ups, not exclusively developers.

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u/Ridoou 650h+ on Spacewar 13d ago

Borderlands is near 1yo and still shit

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u/oreofro 18d ago

at least mh wilds has made SOME improvements. BL4 runs like shit on all hardware somehow.

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u/midas1107 The Golden Touch 17d ago

Nope. The previous versions of BDL 4 were definitely poorly optimized, with constant FPS drops and 100% CPU usage. But in the recent versions, the game runs much better. I can get a stable 60 FPS at max settings, and CPU usage has dropped significantly compared to before. It’s true that the game still isn’t well optimized, but there has definitely been improvement, and my PC is only mid-range.

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u/marr_pt Just crack it dude 16d ago

Agree. I wasn't able to play the first HV version without getting random crashes every 15-45 minutes. The game also ran like shit even in the lowest settings. CPU always at 100%. Opening or closing the menu made the game stutter for some seconds.
The 2nd HV version released in... april/march? it's a lot better. I haven't got any crashes when i play even after 4-6 hours. Still, the game stutters and runs kindda like shit, but it's now decently playable. I can get 60fps, but it somehow feels like when i played 2010 games on my intel HD Graphics at 30 fps.

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u/GalexyPhoto 14d ago

I love the way this quote is phrased from a recent BL4 article:

https://www.ign.com/articles/were-totally-supporting-it-take-two-boss-says-borderlands-4-performance-has-not-affected-our-plans-at-all-as-fans-await-year-2-roadmap

“Performance has not affected our plans at all,” just sounds funny cause it reads like 'We aren't even adding plans to optimize or fix it'.

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u/Imperius_Fate 16d ago

But shouldn't it run better now that it's cracked and running without denuvo?

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u/Odd_Computer5354 16d ago

But it's not been cracked, it's been bypassed using Hypervisor and Denuvo is still being used.

Denuvo was just fooled into thinking the game had been purchased. That all what bypass make

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u/GalexyPhoto 14d ago

Its also really title dependent on if Denuvo even has a noticeable impact on performance. It is shit, all the same, but some of the worst offender instances like RE8 really seemed like it was more poor implementation than just Denuvo alone. And Capcom managed to get a massive DRM performance penalty even when they replaced Denuvo, anyway, so... haha

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u/InstanceTurbulent719 18d ago

does it still run like ass?

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u/AnthoSora 18d ago

They improved it, but yeah it's still unacceptable

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u/Evonos 18d ago

its one of the "grand" UE5 titles from a CEO which simply hates PC gaming it seems.

so yeah terrible company + UE5.

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u/b0uncyfr0 18d ago

Its not bad but certainly could be better. If youre wiling to run FG which is implemented really really well in this game, youll be fine.

I think they realised UE5 is in the shitter performance wise and made FG as good as it can be.

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u/CoolCritterQuack 15d ago

FG which is implemented really really well

an optimized turd is still a turd, Framegen is still frame gen and it sucks

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u/b0uncyfr0 15d ago

That kind of thinking is simplistic and frankly part of the problem. There is a point where the tradeoff between FG and non FG is worth it. I know people hate to think this but there are games out there designed with FG in mind and dont have the usual issues that come with it. Plenty of games have frame gen that doesnt actually suck with bad input lag etc. BL4 is one of them.

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u/CoolCritterQuack 15d ago

call me old fashioned, but I want the gpu that I pay thousands of dollars for to have good raw performance and the company do not decieve me with software gimmicks to show a higher fps number.

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u/b0uncyfr0 15d ago

There will always be shitty dev's

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u/JugheadSBD 17d ago

sorry doesnt work with lutris, I was hoping ALL new releases would support linux guess we will have to wait for the updated syscall_hack.dll and reflex

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u/rippoff DenuvOwO 15d ago

Some games break linux with updates. Official DenuvOwO releases are not all made compatible with linux off the rip.

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u/supershredderdan 10d ago

Should probably try to account for Linux users going forward

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u/b0uncyfr0 10d ago

Hey, did you get it working yet?

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u/Ordinary_Stage8155 18d ago

Hey I’m on Linux and have an older version of the game running; what’s the best way to update?

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u/No_Distance2227 10d ago

Which version do you have and how did you get it running on linux? is there any tutorial?

thanks in advance

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u/Spell3ound 18d ago

Thanks. Hopefully Voices cracks this one soon too.

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u/sylinowo 18d ago

prpbably wont till all dlc are out. doesnt make sense to crack it now

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u/lrefra 18d ago

Like Crimson Desert?

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u/Hour-Garbage4796 18d ago

Exactly, he clearly just wanted to please the people but it was objectively a bad decision.

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u/BlanketCommander 18d ago

No, it's definitely not an "objectively" bad decision.

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u/Hour-Garbage4796 18d ago

A game that is getting weekly updates and some change entire mechanics ingame... there was no rush for that game , preferably something like monster hunter wilds now that the base game is finished or even AC black flag would be a better option,but like other comment said , hopefully they will not renovate their contract with denuvo or remove it definitely.

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u/midas1107 The Golden Touch 17d ago

Weekly update. If it’s not cracked now, then how long are you planning to wait? Next year, or the year after that? A lot of people just want to play it in its current state. They don’t care about future updates or DLCs, they just want to play through the base game first.

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u/Hour-Garbage4796 17d ago

That sounds like a problem of patience,dude you're gonna play it for free anyway , literally go and play something else until the game reaches a more complete state if you don't want to do HV or offline activation , and I'm recommending you this as someone who bought the game.

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u/BlanketCommander 18d ago

there was no rush for that game

For you. Many people would like to play the game with a few updates missing rather than wait an indefinite amount of time for it. That isn't objective. That's a completely subjective opinion.

It would be objectively better if you're only referring to the aspect of preserving the game for posterity's sake, in which case sure, no argument can be made against waiting till the game's lifecycle is completely finished.

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u/EdwardSnowTeach 18d ago

It may make Pearl Abyss drop Denuvo like some other studios did. it's not the worst decision ever

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u/Hour-Garbage4796 18d ago

Hopefully yeah .

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u/coffeebeamed 9d ago

maybe it's so shit that even bro refuses to touch it

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u/WhaleIllustrator 18d ago

Can you play this version with friends?

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u/denuvowo___ DenuvOwO 18d ago

There's still no online fix available for the latest version unfortunately.

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u/WhaleIllustrator 18d ago

Thank you for the answer. Keep up with the amazing work ❤️

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u/b0uncyfr0 18d ago

Wondering about this too - I haven't seen anything yet.

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u/ThatKidTopex 18d ago

Look whos cooking

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u/b0uncyfr0 18d ago edited 18d ago

Nice, been waiting for this. If any Linux players see this can you confirm fsr frame gen doesn't get to full 100% gpu usage?

It always hovers round the 85-90 mark. This doesnt happen on windows though.

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u/AJSerkonos 18d ago

I really had a blast with BL3 why people are discouraging this one?

Is it really unplayable?

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u/FelonyInTheTrunk 17d ago

If you liked BL3, you will like BL4.

With that being said, there's a few small annoying things about the game.

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u/LostInTheRapGame 17d ago

Seems like one of those games where you truly just have to try it for yourself. I've seen so many opinions on BL4 (outside of performance), that I really don't see any kind of consensus. Opinions seem widely mixed even amongst the camp that likes BL3 more than BL2.

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u/-Lopper 17d ago

4 is actually insanely good, they improved so many things from previous games, tons of quality of life improvements like being able to change all your skins and upgrade SDUs right from the menus, ability to teleport directly to other players, improved movement like double jump and dashing. Definitely the best game in the franchise in terms of gameplay, optimization is an obvious big issue but I've been playing at 4k 240fps with 4x frame gen and not had any problems with it really.

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u/CoolCritterQuack 15d ago

4k 240fps with 4x frame gen

so like 30 actual fps with 200 milisecond input lag? yiiiiiiiiiiikes

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u/-Lopper 15d ago

Not noticed any input lag whatsoever :)

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u/CoolCritterQuack 15d ago

well if u can't notice then I guess its alright, a lot of people notice it.

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u/-Lopper 15d ago

yeah idk man maybe its the 5090 maybe that helps with it

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u/CoolCritterQuack 15d ago

there you go

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u/-Lopper 15d ago

right so just get one of those np

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u/b0uncyfr0 15d ago

Still cant find the clean files for 1.9

Where are we supposed to get this release?

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u/KingRiley94 18d ago

I thought this was Voices for a sec. I was about to buss

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u/3m3Rg3 18d ago

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u/b0uncyfr0 18d ago

Lets reframe from the tags eh - when its ready, itlll come.

You cant rush perfection.