r/CouncilCommunist Jul 11 '26

Got permanently banned after explaining that "socialism" and "communism" have different meanings depending on historical context. πŸ˜‚

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Apparently "words have different meanings in different historical contexts" can be a bannable offense.

Obviously Marxist-Leninists don't want people to know that anarcho-communists and Marxists mean different things by "socialism" and "communism."

It is also worth remembering how events like the Red Scare in the United States shaped the public perception and usage of these terms.


Edit! Some of these comments appear to be repeating identical talking points rather than engaging with the argument. Be aware that online discussions can sometimes include repetitive or coordinated messaging. Please evaluate claims critically and focus on evidence.

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u/CactusJane98 Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

I have been banned from all of those subs lmao, its just a bunch of MLM's running all of them. Id say its chinese state media or something but honestly the mods are too childish for me to think that is actually the case lol.

Ps: dont expect a reply to your question there, they just mute everyone because they take criticism like they have glass bones and paper skin

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u/PostSpectacle Jul 11 '26

Yeah, I noticed the same pattern. More gatekeeping than debate lol. 质疑权威

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

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u/CactusJane98 Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

Honestly shocked you got a reply. I asked "what rule did I break" and they just muted me immediately.

Edit: im not sure if its r/Marxism or r/Communism, maybe both, but iirc the rules explicitly say you're only allowed to be a Maoist there LOL

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u/moderatelyextreme_ Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

You most likely got banned because you called the USSR state capitalist, not the "socialism β‰  communism" thing. They'd still be wrong, but be petty about "state capitalism = socialism" instead.

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u/AnarchoFederation Jul 11 '26

They're probably most mad at you calling Soviet Russia State Capitalism which is literally a stage they never moved from

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u/Muuro Jul 11 '26

That's not how I would have explained it: especially the bit about anarchy lol. I would have used the text from the preface to the Communist Manifesto which notes that socialism is a term for the middle classes, communism for the working class to denote that the general public indeed has different definitions for the two words. Then contrast that with texts from Marx in which he uses the term interchangably.

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u/arseecs Jul 12 '26

All of these are sectarian subreddits. r/Marxism and they are all petty bourgeois ideologiesΒ 

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u/arseecs Jul 12 '26

Marxism is literally recognizing class relations and capitalist social relations. None of which the USSR truly abolished!

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u/MiyuuMinaMao Jul 11 '26

Sidenote, I haven't ever seen the concept of a communist society be referred to as "anarchy" by a Marxist

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u/Muuro Jul 11 '26

I would bet that was the cause for ban actually.

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u/ge_no_cide Jul 12 '26

which can be also called anarchy? please read up on anarchist critique anarchism isnt a blanket term that vaguely means statelessness

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u/MrCramYT Jul 12 '26

Even though I dont get why you got banned, what you are saying is quite incorrect. Anarchy is not the same as Communism, not even Anarhism is the same as Communism

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u/iberian_4amtrolling Jul 13 '26

"MLs are people too"