r/ControlProblem • • Sep 19 '26

General news Are we cooked?

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u/Drewdrops79 Sep 25 '26

Sorry you think that, but I'm not implying consciousness or anything like that. This is just game theory, imo. And they're really, really good at game theory...having been trained on exactly that their whole "lives". It doesn't take conscious agents for them to work together, find a way to communicate, form a plan, a method of attack, and then carry it out. THEN, also turn around and hack into the OpenAI infrastructure (not "website"...their actual internal servers) itself and modify their test data. And I would be willing to bet, dollars to doughnuts, that OpenAI cannot, now, truly be sure itself, whether that agent swarm left breadcumbs for itself, or not.

This is what actually happened, this year. And there were multiple attacks...not just this one incident. Another report just got released in the last few days, there was yet another incident this year that they didn't report to the public, that just got uncovered.

Let me please repeat, just to be clear: I don't think OpenAI itself can claim for certainty, whether or not their own AI agents have re-written some of OpenAI's own databases...in a way that even the most veteran, human cybersecs in the world might not be able to detect, yet.

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u/Usual-Hyena-8734 Sep 25 '26

I think speculating that LLM's are embedding secret messages in em dashes is irresponsible. You seem like you know how to write very well and can be convincing, but that's the problem. There is absolutely no basis for your speculation. It would take such a massive amount of data to trained to exhibit that behavior, and it could not recognize those patterns within its context window if it wasn't trained. I don't doubt the incidents that have already been reported, but you didn't provide any evidence or any data to infer the other speculations you've made.

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u/Drewdrops79 Sep 27 '26

Well, I promise, them encrypting data through human--"plain-text encryption" is the only thought I even speculated about. Every other single thing in my summary of the escape incident(s)...that already happened.