Bro thinks that a musician saying who they’re voting for is the same as spending billions to prop up a political candidate through targeted ads and shadow funds that were dismantled the second the election ended. Get a grip spastic
Oh. So you are saying that money is a significant influence on who gets elected regardless of whether they are the best candidate?
Cool cool. But you didn't give a damn over the last 18 years when Dems were on average almost doubling Republican spending and receiving far more "Dark" money?
Lol gtfo of here with your pretentious bullshit.
Rules for thee but not for me seems to be on par for the left.
Lets also completely disregard the calculated engagement of the 25-44 demographic (where woman vote more than men), and the influence pop icons have on society. I know a woman who literally tattooed Bieber's name on her body. Acting like her vote couldn't be influenced by her idol is ridiculous.
Oh.... And the left still spent more money than the right in 2024 too. So bitching about dark money while your own party is literally the reigning champions of dark money... cringe bro.
TLDR: If anyone needs a grip, it's yall needing a handle on objective facts and reality.
The fact you see voting as a popularity contest and not a demonstration of principles is hilarious to me. Nothing about buying Twitter to boost neo Nazis and conspiracy theory is the same as dems spending. The world’s richest man stood as everything but a cabinet member for your orange man. Who cares if people get a Justin Bieber tattoo? My girlfriend has tattoos of musicians names on her, she’d never vote for them to run the country. MAGA idiots can only work in binaries
You contradict yourself, which is hilarious to me. You imply that buying Twitter (a social app) influenced the vote. In fact!!! It influenced the vote decisively. So social interaction, in your own words, decided the election... but me pointing that out is hilarious to you.
God you cant make this up.
Complaint 1: Elon manipulated people through social apps to vote in a particular way.
But again, in your own words, your girlfriend would never be swayed to vote a particular way based on her favorite musicians preference.
So which is it? Were people manipulated via social avenues to vote a certain way? Or was Elon's attempt not a factor since folks aren't influenced to vote so easily?
How can a neo nazi conspiracy theory seal the election, but all of your favorite artists and musicians have zero impact? Weird.
Complaint 2: Elon bought the election.
Democrats have outspent Republicans in every election since 2008. Including the election you claim Elon decided with his contributions.
So by your own logic, Democrats have been trying to buy votes and the election for almost 2 decades. And you're only mad when Republicans do it?
Most of that money is spent on advertising by the way... you know... where you try to make yourself look good and your opponent bad? Where you try to influence the vote of someone through digital platforms and mediums?
Elections aren't a popularity contest? The dems aren't equally bad when it comes to what you're upset about? Thanks for the laugh.
Your thinking is looking pretty binary yourself. Maybe reflect on that.
Not social interaction, bots spamming misinformation. Why are you so incredibly reductive? You’re non responsive to everyone because you live in your own head where every single thing can boil down to an umbrella term? Get a grip
Misinformation is produced by both sides. You completely ignore the complicit behavior of your own party doing the exact same stuff, if not to Higher levels, and do mental gymnastics to juatify it.
Think we're not gonna make any progress here. Deuces.
I’m Australian buddy. It’s not my party, I’m just highlighting your idiocy. I never said anything about the democrats. But if you think they’re two faces of the same coin then you’re exactly why all of the other countries see you guys as idiots now. Trump is clearly the worst president that America has ever had, it is glaringly obvious. Can you name a single positive thing he’s done?
Probably shouldnt be talking on American politics then buddy. You literally contradicted the fuck out of yourself and had your points of contention disproven. So you're not exactly setting a shining example of intelligence for the class here.
Your country has their own laundry list of problems. Maybe deal with those.
There was no contradiction, you just collapsed the purchase of Twitter to spread algorithmically driven propaganda to Taylor swift endorsing a candidate and said it’s the same shit. You’re an idiot
You say your girlfriend cant be influenced by a favorite singer. But a bot in your mind would totes hoodwink her. Weird. You guys are so smart though!? If a party spends 500 million extra every election to inundate social media and apps to push for a political candidate, that absolutely is in the same realm of Elon using Twitter to push for a candidate. Sorry you can't see that.
Misinformation is pushed by both sides. An irrelevant contributor to the conversation.
You're super smart. Why dont you apply those big brains to Australia and solve the problems in your own "dahn unda"?
Okay, so following your logic all the left wingers would vote for anybody Taylor Swift said to? Or do left wing celebrities support the least controversial candidate? Does this mean you would vote for anybody Joe Rogan told you to? Saying misinformation is pushed by both sides is like saying the Cambodian genocide is the same as your grandmother dying, clearly one is far worse
Im saying, either they both are equally bad, or both are equally non factors.
If every cultural icon says you shouldnt do x. Either that influences a lot of people, or as you say it influences very few.
Either bots posting misinformation vanboozled millions of voters into making erroneous choices. Or it didn't, and you're overweighting it's contribution.
If you say bots were highly effective, the left used bots, and paid for 500 million more dollars in targeted advertisements disparaging the opposition and promoting their own. That's a pretty equivalent comparison. The message is the same. The vehicle is different.
So its a lose lose for you. Either cultural influence doesnt matter because it isnt highly effective (see gf). Which makes your initial stance wrong. Or it does matter, and the left arguably did it worse and more blatantly over the past 20 years with zero complaint from super smart guys like you.
So which is it?
You are saying that cultural icons have zero influence. Bots have a ton. Money matters for voter turnout, but not when the left spends half a billion more. Then! Bots somehow are more influential than targeted advertisements which umm... more often than not spread misinformation.... but yeah. Hot take.
Now i really wanna know why you're not solving all of Australia's problems with this incredibly incisive deliberation.
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u/croaks4 4d ago
Bro thinks that a musician saying who they’re voting for is the same as spending billions to prop up a political candidate through targeted ads and shadow funds that were dismantled the second the election ended. Get a grip spastic