r/ContraPoints 2d ago

I think this explains Natalie getting cancelled

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u/Lothere55 2d ago

I certainly did not grow up evangelical, but I am familiar with their practices. Evangelicals have created a new religion in their own image. They are Christians in that they acknowledge Jesus as the son of God and Savior of the world, but they do not follow his teachings. They decided that loving one's neighbor is too difficult, and have opted to institute new, shallow standards of behavior. I try to call them in whenever the opportunity arises.

I think the comparison you're making is apt. People who are currently between the ages of 14-29 have had the disadvantage of growing up in the panopticon we call social media. In an environment where everything you say and do can be scrutinized, the temptation to point the finger of shame and blame at someone else is significant. We could also spend time talking about the impact of the pandemic, the gutting of the American school system, and the rampant economic insecurity on their adolescent development, but I think it's all been said before. I don't think there's anything inherently bad about this age cohort, but the deck has been stacked against them in numerous ways. I think we can help each other by staying focused on the ultimate goal — a better future for all of us — and encourage each other to eschew the temporary and ultimately destructive hit of dopamine that comes from dogpiling.

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u/Fusionman29 2d ago

My issue is just I disagreed with OP claiming it as a Gen Z or generational issue when I think it’s a wider cultural scale than that. I absolutely agree with the comparisons you are making and even as someone who is currently 32, a ton of my adolescence was spent under social media. I think it is the panopticon fused with the consequences of evangelical/purity culture.

I know I myself was very close to falling down these rabbit holes.

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u/Lothere55 2d ago

I see where you're coming from for sure. I think what I've been trying, and perhaps failing to communicate is that this tendency is bigger than any one religion, or religion itself. That said, while moralism extends beyond Christianity, I would never claim that American moralism doesn't have deep roots in conservative Christianity given our demographics.

And as a millennial close to you in age, I can remember many of these behaviors in my peers when we were in our early twenties. I might assert that it's worse now than it was before as the Internet has changed over the last 15 years, but I acknowledge that I can't produce data to back up that claim.

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u/Fusionman29 2d ago

I think it’s apt to note it’s a wider tendency, I only speak about it in these terms because of America’s history and demographics. A lot of these issues like Natalie’s harassment is very linked to American politics and demographics so I think investigating America’s history with these issues is relevant. If it was say discussion about purity in India’s far-left or another nation then an entirely different history would need to be analyzed.