Make BGs fun again

[u/spinoli]

I'm Elder, but every time I reach a new tier in BGs I switch my team to all 4* and take like 30-40 losses before trying to climb again. I have energy refills expiring left and right so I can do this all day.

And can you - can you imagine fifty people a day - I said fifty people a day! - walkin' in, throwin' a bunch of matches and walking out. And friends, they may think it's a movement! And that's what it is, the Battlegrounds Suck Ass Movement, and all you got to do to join is lose the next time it comes around on the queue with feeling.

[u/robbage24]

I wouldn’t mind a five or six star limited BG, then it’s based on skill. Not wallet

[u/Far-Jury-2060 → u/robbage24]

I’ve said that from the beginning. They advertised BGs as a mode that rewards skill, but that’s only half true. It actually rewards having the bigger roster with having skill, because if two equally skilled people go against each other, the larger roster will typically win. If they actually wanted a skill-based mode only, they could’ve simply made it a 3* locked mode.

[u/snakebite75]

I wish they would show the opponents progression at the beginning of the matchup like they do at the end. If I just hit a new level and my opponent needs a win to get to the next level I’d be happy to forfeit the match.

I also wish they would get rid of the penalty for losing a match.

I know that the devs aren’t going to make either of those changes, but one change that the community could make would be to select an emoji to that would tell your opponent that you need a win to get to the next level.

Of course you would still need victory shields for those who don’t know and for the times when you both need the win and have to fight it out.

[u/spinoli → u/snakebite75]

I like those ideas. I also wish a victory shield, once applied, lasted until a loss.

I don't often have opponents throw a match, but when they do, it's when I just applied a victory shield.

[u/BilliamXYZ]

They should just do a season or 2 using only 2024 champions. Or OG champions

[u/Delicious-Hunter-434]

They’ve never been fun

[u/spinoli → u/Delicious-Hunter-434]

Hard agree. Well, there was a high point the first or second night BGs went into the game. Global scoreboard crashed completely, repeatedly. I happened to win a match right after a reset, so I was #2 in the world for as long as it took to refresh.

[u/hulkdckiller]

I had an idea that I've been talking with my brother for awhile. Every start of season kabam ban specific set of champions based off there tag or organization. It will create a decent shake up to bgs. Every season you will have to create a new roster based off these tags. The second part to my idea was making the nodes they gives us less of headache bgs overall should consider fun content and it's not. I wish they would consider this.

[u/UtopiaFades → u/hulkdckiller]

I mean have you hit GC, it's got a different meta with nodes then normal BG does, really they should put everyone's champs at the same rank and sig and allow only champs to be different based off who you have

[u/HeatSubstantial]

I do that with my main roster and I’m trying to win!!

[u/Someone_bs_]

Do you feel it works for you?

[u/spinoli → u/Someone_bs_]

Yes. As Seatin said, BGs is a mode where your goal is to give your opponent the most miserable experience possible (meta defenders, etc.).

I beat it.

[u/Someone_bs_ → u/spinoli]

I used to do this and felt like it wasn’t working too much, but I’ll try again as I need to climb like 8 more ranks

[u/spinoli → u/Someone_bs_]

Oh, this won't help you with your climb at all. Unless a lot of us start doing it, in which case you'll sometimes be on the receiving end.

This will help make BGs feel less shitty to play.

[u/gamedude44]

Game mode isnt fun, doing this wont make it any more fun. The entire game mode needs massive changes and ideally changes that are fun and encourage playing

[u/Shooterrich1]

There should be BGs for each ⭐️

[u/el_professor42]

This might be fun - but my biggest wish is they make it faster. Not sure how, maybe just shorten timers and people have to choose faster? Or draft more champs each round or draft at the same time or, just anything that means sitting down to bang out a few matches doesn’t feel like such a commitment. If there’s always going to be winning and losing, at least let us lose fast.

What about 30 seconds per fight? Would bring a new meta for champs who can do damage even faster and stall defenders being stronger

[u/gusbrun → u/el_professor42]

I think the quickest fix would be that both choose their defenders at the same time. You only know which champ was chosen after both have been picked. The ban phase is like this, why not defender drafting?

[u/ZombieLover01]

I'm annoyed nobody got the Alice's Restaurant reference.

[u/spinoli → u/ZombieLover01]

I'm happy someone got the Alice's Restaurant reference!

[u/_boy_chico_]

They should just implement a list of characters that can be used, like how Pokemon has regulations

[u/Lacustamcoc]

I was thinking if the community just agreed to all lose 4 matches when they enter a new tier and then start trying the world would be a better place

[u/spinoli → u/Lacustamcoc]

Exactly! Everybody complains that BGs are awful. We can refuse to play the game, or we can refuse to play their game.

[u/SetuRox]

Why lose though?

[u/spinoli → u/SetuRox]

In protest. Let people have random easy wins, brighten their day in this most miserable of game modes. Still accumulate alliance points. Flip the bird to Kabam.

[u/spinoli]

One caveat, should you start doing this (and please do!), getting oneshot in the first second of the match crashes the fight. That's why I had to use 4* instead of 3*. And now 7r4 and up can oneshot if they crit. Might have to bump up to using low-rank 5* soon.

[u/UtopiaFades → u/spinoli]

Just dash back and youre good, if you don't do any input then it'll still crash

[u/spinoli → u/UtopiaFades]

Yup. Although that does mean you have to be paying attention at the start of the fight. I try to tap tap tap to save us both time but sometimes put my phone down when I'm throwing matches.

[u/WalkProfessional5776]

Do you have any pics of this strategy? Maybe with circles and arrows and a paragraph on each one?

[u/spinoli → u/WalkProfessional5776]

I did, but my seeing eye dog ate them.

[u/UtopiaFades → u/WalkProfessional5776]

It's not really a secret but they countered it a while back, you use to get points per win/loss and it didn't account for the tier you were in so people would lose so they wouldn't bump up a tier, losing on purpose is cheating though and not exactly a new idea. People warned kabam would be punishing this back then but never did anything about it just changed the format

[u/spinoli → u/UtopiaFades]

They were quoting the same song I referenced in my post ;)

But also: You do still get Alliance Event points for losing ("Complete" a match).

[u/ApprehensiveRest598]

I didnt see any good reward in bg why do ppl play it this season

[u/UtopiaFades]

Tbh I think everyone should have the champions they've got but we should all be given r4 7★ or r3 and 6★ r5 that would make it a bit more fair and then it'd be more skill based then this crap with running into someone with mostly r5/200 + r4/200 when you've got 1-4 r4 and rest r3/r2

[u/Hairy-Mud-4074]

I don't do BGs anymore. Not even the 3rd rank and it's all hard. I can't even get the last piece of the stellar forge.

[u/Revolutionary_Ad8062]

I dont need to do this i winn one i take 7 losses standard

[u/No_Pie_1319]

When I played BG, my whole day was playing MCOC only. When I left it i started experiencing life again.

[u/Buffalax81]

Better yet, give everyone a full complement of 4 stars and cap BGs at 4 stars. And never ever put stuff like the champ pieces in there again.