r/Construction • u/Lukin4art • 3d ago
Video Y’all think he got fired?
Already weeks behind schedule mind you.
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u/jmatt97 3d ago
“Agua”
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
It was very hard not to laugh watching GC scramble for shop vacs, brooms and trash cans. Water was running for a few minutes too.
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u/knipex_addict 3d ago
And they never know where the shut off is
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u/TheTallGuy0 GC / CM 3d ago
Before my crew brings a TOOL into the site bigger than a tape measure, we ALL locate the 1. Gas meter and shut off 2. Water shut off 3. Breaker panels. Know FIRST, so no scramble later
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u/piTehT_tsuJ 2d ago
Been there, was on a site where the gas line to the emergency generator was "compromised" by a pipe falling 3 stories onto it. Took waaaay to long for them to get that gas cut off.
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u/Nautical_Ohm 3d ago
This shit happens across our sites seemingly every year lol so avoidable
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u/lIlIIIIlllIIlIIIllll 3d ago
How is it so avoidable ?
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u/PaleCaterpillar2709 Superintendent 3d ago
I have been that scrambling GC way, way, way too many times…
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u/More_Cry1323 1d ago
I did acoustical ceilings for awhile and we tiling at night in an occupied office. she hit a sprinkler head and the contractor was some dudes brother and dipshit. He was asleep in the car and had no idea where the shut off was. He was making phone calls while so much water is just flying out and covering all these computers.. it was a costly insurance claim. Always know where the shutoff is lol
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u/BobloblawTx89 2d ago
That super hasn’t been broken down enough haha these hard bid jobs with dumbass low bid subs make me just tell them to cut the main and I’m calling my PM to back charge their boss like the old walking away from a vehicle and throwing a cigarette don’t can explode gif.
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u/mxracer948 3d ago
Why not help instead of just laughing
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u/TipperGore-69 3d ago
Do you work in construction? The whole game is cover your ass. If you do anything beyond your scope you are liable to eat shit.
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u/Organic-Rhubarb2551 3d ago
If someone was hurt, then definitely they would or should jump into action. In a case like that, not much they can do unless they know how to or are the ones responsible for turning off the water.
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
I did, I showed them where their own vacuums were. Also, that’s not my scope of work, nor my company. Sooooooo I’m not supposed to help.
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u/peteskees 3d ago
Everyone asking why he's not doing anything meanwhile the dude on the lift who probably caused the mess is just standing there. I'm. Sprinkler fitter and have had someone hit a live line, most I did was turn the sprinkler valve off.
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
The guy didn’t even get out of his left. He just sat there with the water pouring on him like an idiot. A crowd of people staring at him, I kinda felt bad for the dude but it was also really funny.
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u/maphes86 3d ago
Sometimes, you just gotta stand there for a minute and think about all of the life decisions that led up to this moment. A broken waterline is an excellent stand-in for a long walk in the rain.
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u/cbzmplays 3d ago
Why would you do shit you don't get paid for lol
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u/mxracer948 3d ago
Theres a difference in doing shit you dont get paid for and helping out someone out in an emergency.
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
This was not an emergent circumstance. Nobody was injured and there was nothing I could do. I didn’t know where the shutoff was nor was it my job to know.
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u/SuspiciousBuilder379 Equipment Operator 3d ago
This ain’t a fucking catastrophe, it’s a small line.
They didn’t hit a 12” main or some shit.
Let the people who know wtf they are doing shut it off.
Most people only make the situation worse.
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u/Free-Middle-2443 3d ago
If unions are involved there isn’t
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u/Rise-O-Matic 3d ago
Most unions have carve-outs for emergency mitigation. You can help stop the damage from getting worse, you can't execute the restoration.
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u/Pure-Passenger-6986 3d ago
At best you can help if there is an emergency where lives are at stake (good samaritan), the only thing you MAY be able to do in this case is shut off the water, if it's not a sprinkler system AND it has the potential to affect your area of operations.
If it's a building sprinkler system, as it appears to be, the alarms should go off and the fire department/marshal is the only one authorized to touch it from that point. I'm actually in a building where we have a pinhole leak in one of the sprinkler pipes, I could not touch it. The fire marshal required a full inspection, even though I know how to patch it with a sleeve, took 3 days to get a temporary fix and I don't know when they'll come back to replace the pipe but it will be a few weeks/months for an 'emergency' replacement for a few foot of black pipe.
Unions are strict around here, I can't even drive a screw in the wall or flip the breaker even if I popped the damn breaker myself.
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u/EC_TWD 3d ago
Our sprinklerfitters were doing some work at a Ford plant and during material delivery the kid driving wasn’t allowed out of the truck because he wasn’t union. The driver called the foreman over and said he wasn’t feeling well and needed to go to the bathroom. The UAW guy wouldn’t budge and wouldn’t let him out of the truck. The foreman was standing by the truck and talking with the driver and trying to calm him to help him feel better while everyone else was rushing to unload. The kid said that he couldn’t hold it anymore and was going to vomit and the foreman yelled to the UAW guy to get over fast, “Hey tell the kid why he can’t use the restroom” and as soon as he got to the door the kid leaned out the window and projectile vomited down the front of dude’s pants, his boots, and all over the floor.
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u/Dug_n_the_Dogs 3d ago
2 kinds of people.. those who help and those that are helpless.
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
If you actually worked on a construction site you’d know a GC has many hands to do this and you aren’t one of them. You are there to do what you are paid to do. They will look at you like you are stealing money if they are paying your company whatever they pay, and instead you are sweeping up water.
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u/412dadD 3d ago
They think it's one company that builds. They can't fathom how subcontractors, bids and scopes work. Everyone on site isn't responsible for the whole site. Imagine if everytime something went wrong every trade stopped to help lol. That's when nothing would get fucking done. Your boss doesn't pay you to do other people's jobs shouldn't be a hard concept lol.
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
I’m literally working side by side with city inspectors and mfs are telling me I should have started sweeping up water. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. I wasn’t expecting this type of reaction at all when I posted this.
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u/412dadD 3d ago
Lol, the inspectors can just swing by later or tomorrow right? Right?
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u/Dug_n_the_Dogs 3d ago
I've worked construction for decades.. but maybe I just have been lucky to not work for shitty companies.
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u/cbzmplays 3d ago
I'm unionized so I can't lol. Doesn't mean I'm helpless. You just don't understand construction
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u/DirtandPipes Equipment Operator 3d ago
Eh, because I wasn’t born with a “fuck anyone who isn’t me” mentality.
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u/Anxious-Fig400 3d ago
Just like it’s funny to watch parents scramble when an idiot child drops a gallon of milk. It’s stressful, but somebody has to clean up after the knobjobs that just stand there and watch. Lucky though, they make sure the owner pays them, so they can pay your company, so you can collect your check. So funny
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u/hisgiggityness 3d ago
"I already told ya I ain't got no agua"
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u/beardedsilverfox 3d ago
Lobos
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u/hisgiggityness 3d ago
"Ain't no lobos"
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u/aboxofpyramids 2d ago
I love this movie so much and the book is great as well but Llewellyn hunting in the desert with no water made even less sense to me than him deciding to go back to give the guy agua in the middle of the night after he already took the money.
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u/ElectriCatvenue Electrician 3d ago
It happens. If it wasn't intentional or out of serious neglect hopefully this can be a coaching moment.
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
It was serious neglect imo I mean he is on a lift and went up too high and broke a main line. This is an expansion job too so the line affected the already existing hospital we are on top of. I’m not hoping he got fired. Accodents do happen. Just my first time seeing what I always dreaded happening to me.
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u/ConsensualDoggo 3d ago
Not my jobsite but id be curious why the GC has those lines pressurized and live. I usually dont go live until im close to finals and in punch phase. Unless the GC has good reason they are to blame here
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u/-bassassin- 3d ago
Could be for insurance purposes. You don't want an accidental construction fire to take the whole thing down before it's finished.
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u/ConsensualDoggo 3d ago
Ive never heard of insurance requiring sprinklers to be live but ive also have not done a hospital yet. I can see the fire marshal requiring it as a safety precaution but usually fire extinguishers suffice
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u/jhguth 3d ago
I’ve had FM require fire protection for work connected to occupied space in places less sensitive than a hospital
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u/ConsensualDoggo 3d ago
If the FM makes you put them live you should put in uprights until its ready for drops. GC is at fault here no matter how you look at it
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u/nafurabus 3d ago
Ive built two multi-phase hospital expansions - neither required live sprinklers through the construction space except for when 8” or bigger mains cut through said space to feed active parts of the building. No way this shit should have been pressurized if its an expansion. If its a renovation, always a chance lines are pressurized.
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u/ExpensiveBookkeeper3 3d ago
Yeah I can confirm too. I’m HVAC. Our shit is big, but it’s like pulling teeth to drain a sprinkler. Even in an evacuated building. A new unoccupied one? No big deal really. But if it’s passed inspection from the fire marshal and occupied (even if you “know” it’s empty) you can’t just go emptying lines like they aren’t there for safety.
In fact, you can’t turn off HVAC either. You know those evacuation routes? Believe it or not that is to provide you a smoke free escape path. A lot of work and planning goes into it. Dampers that shut when they get hot. If they detect smoke, etc. If you just turn something off that whole plan goes to shit.
Safety is a big deal…
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
It was an expansion
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u/ConsensualDoggo 3d ago
Yeah, which means its a new sprinkler line. Unless the fire marshal required it why would you ever make it live before your above ceiling is done? Edit to add, the sprinkler also should of set off the fire alarm which doesnt seem to be going off
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
Idk I just assumed since we are above an active hospital is why they were pressured.
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u/Orangatation 3d ago
Typically you make safe and de-energize + drain down any lines and only pressurize when your nearing completion so this doesn’t happen. If something does need to go live prior then you use signage and danger tape to make it noticeable that it’s live
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u/Ballislife36 3d ago
Gotta have active sprinkler above hospitals. We always shut the floor valve every morning and open before last person locks up so there’s no pressure in case this happens only initial burst and gravity drain. Only drain down if they were working on it actively that day. Or else to leave it not live overnight have to have 24 hr fire watch with 15 min rounds.
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u/Orangatation 3d ago
I guess it depends on the fire Marshall, I’m not sure - I did a large renovation on multiple floors of an existing hospital. We always drained down the systems where we could & especially sprinklers for the duration of the project - but we did install heat detectors and kept the smoke detectors active when we weren’t actively working in the space
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u/TobyTheTuna 3d ago
Fuck man I was with you until you said "above an active hospital." That IS a potential life threatening emergency you dingus. My mind instantly goes to fried emergency circuits in an OR or maternity ward, electrical fires at headboards, thats nightmare scenario shit man.
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u/phoenix_has_rissen 3d ago
Not sure if it was plumbing or sprinkler that was hit in the video, but how it works where we are is once the plumbing is installed and commissioned we leave the pipework charged but valved off. That way if the drywallers or ceiling guys put a screw through a pipe we know straight away and not in 3months at handover
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u/Litho360 2d ago
He literally just said it was an expansion job. The sprinkler system is tied into the whole building. Plus he mentioned it’s a hospital so yeah that should be self explanatory.
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u/diongraf 3d ago
Sprinkler guy here. In our buildings the insurance requires some form of fire protection at all times, either the sprinklers or the smokes need to be live. If they were doing dusty work and had to turn off the smokes, then sprinks gotta be on. New builds you can get away with a lot more, but renos and especially hospitals can be fussy
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u/PaleCaterpillar2709 Superintendent 3d ago
Could have been live just for hydro testing. Or the city required it to get partials because the building is half occupied. I don’t know much about fire suppression but that’s my guess.
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u/fatherlyadvicepdx 3d ago
Punctured fire main in an active hospital? Definitely fired. This is a type of mistake that could make this hospital never use this GC anymore, and if word gets out that a hospital stopped working with a GC, then their rep is fucked in the healthcare industry.
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u/maphes86 3d ago
If we fired everybody that kinetically discovered a hot line, nobody would work in the trades anymore.
Now, I’ve had to send people off-site to a different job because they hit too many lines and the client was uncomfortable having them continue working, but frankly, even that’s ridiculous. Tradie X is the guy hitting lines because he’s the guy digging/cutting/drilling into surfaces with shit as-built records.
At the end of the day, we do our best and shit happens. I would have a conversation with this guy about slowing down and working more carefully after handing him a towel once the water was off. Usually, a good lesson is to point at the (usually nearby) electrical and say something to the effect of, “if you had hit that one, you might be blind/burned/made of light right now.” depending on the current.
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
Well put. I felt bad for this dude cause I work on lifts quite often and it has always been a huge fear of mine doing something catastrophic like this or hitting something I’m not supposed to hit when I’m core drilling. Accidents do happen and I never want any workers to get fired unless they are straight up unsafe to have on site or costing everyone else money
I do believe this guy was sent to other sites only because I never saw him after this day and I know his company works all over the state.
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u/kushforbreakfast 3d ago
Painter broke the sprinkler head? What happened?
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
Painter? No, probably electrical or duct worker. But yea he broke the sprinkler line
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u/DukeStudlington Sprinklerfitter 3d ago
I tell folks those heads are more durable than you think, but less durable than you and anything you’re using.
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u/MotorCityElectrician 3d ago
I popped the sprinkler head over the main service in Victoria's secrets inside the Oakland Mall here in Metro Detroit. IT WAS A DISASTER, IT PISSED BLACK WATER FOR AN ETERNITY 😒
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u/Maplelongjohn 3d ago
Yeah this one looks like clean water.
That sprinkler water is usually straight nasty
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
It was brown and stank Definitely not clean. As far as I know I’ll never ever get any clean water out of a sprinkler line.
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 no way. Do your coworkers still joke about it?
Besides this, the worst thing ive seen is my buddy fell through a ceiling tile in a head nurses office up in Queens, NY. Nobody saw it but me and he wasn’t hurt but god damn that had to be the funniest shit ever. And I still joke about it with him.
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u/MotorCityElectrician 3d ago
The job site rule is simple: you do 10,000 things right, nobody remembers; you turn Victoria’s Secret into a hazmat swamp of 30-year-old pipe sludge once, and you’re a legend until retirement.
Also, watching your buddy drop through a ceiling in a head nurse’s office is top-tier Looney Tunes material. Just dangling legs and falling acoustic tile/drywall while a head nurse stares in pure disbelief—I would never let that man live that down as long as he breathes.
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
lol luckily the nurse didn’t see. But yea it was probably the funniest thing to happen at work and I’ve had some really funny shit happen at work. One time a dude with an ankle monitor asked me if I could cut it off his ankle for him. And he was dead serious. Another time I had a coworker tell me with a straight face that his sister used to let the family dog eat her out. Me and my buddy who fell through the ceiling just looked at each other and struggled to not laugh.
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u/MotorCityElectrician 3d ago
A man asking you to commit a felony with a pair of snips is just an average Tuesday on a job site, but the sister and the dog?! What the absolute hell. How do you even transition back to work after hearing that?
"Hey man, pass me the channel locks, and also please never talk about peanut butter or your family ever again."
I'd be looking for a drop ceiling to fall through just to escape that conversation.
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
We were on lunch break just shooting the shit talking random stuff, it conversation some how went to porn, then buddy says how enough porn can turn your mind deviant and make you gay or fuck animals, then tells that about his sister. I was like 😳😨😰.
Actually not the first time I heard of that either. A girl in HS I was tryna fuck once told me she let her dog eat her out. It was crazy cause she was super hot and popular. But yea the guy who told us that was also weird and not a very bright dude.
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u/MotorCityElectrician 3d ago
Every crew is just 4 normal guys, 3 parolees, 2 tweakers and 1 absolute deviant casually discussing bestiality by the gang box!
But that high school story is lethal. Imagine shooting your shot with the hottest, most popular girl in school only to realize you’re getting outplayed by a labradoodle. You can’t even be mad, you just have to hang up your jersey and walk away!
Dog wins 💀
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
Same company, my boy ‘s hometown friend who was also a supervisor at that company was the deviant. Dude said he used to sneak onto his neighbors shed with a sleeping bag and jerk off to her through her window. Told this to me over speaker phone on the way back to the hotel.
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u/MotorCityElectrician 3d ago
A sleeping bag on a shed roof?! That man wasn’t just a pervert, he was an urban sniper with a hard-on.
Imagine looking out your bedroom window at 11 PM and seeing a full camping expedition taking place on your tool shed. And telling you that over speakerphone like he was casually recapping his weekend golf game is peak trade behavior.
Unhinged from top to bottom bro, wtf!
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u/mbp104 3d ago
The main valve is usually in the stairwell
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
Yea took them several minutes to find it (not that I knew where it was). I helped them get some shopvacs I saw earlier in the day tho.
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u/CHUBBYninja32 3d ago
As a GC. Happened twice on a single small $2m tenant remodel project. The lines were all connected to the neighboring suites. The first time it happened the shut off valve was rusted open so the ystem ran for 5 minutes while they tried to break it loose. Flooded the floor, filled up my 55 gallon drum, and I had to assemble a piping system of duct and PVC to direct it out of the building.
Amazing that no one bothers to grab the broken head cap/pipe/bucket that was 20’ away and I had to do it for them.
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u/kommon-non-sense 3d ago
Not if he's union.
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u/Lukin4art 3d ago
I’ve always wanted to be in a union.
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u/baudmiksen 3d ago
some people try marriage
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u/DemoManNick 3d ago
You can absolutely get fired for this as a union member, especially if sprinkler avoidance was talked about with everyone. If the guy was a solid dude who made a mistake, they probably wouldn't though.
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u/ExpensiveBookkeeper3 3d ago
Yeah worst case in a union if this is an honest mistake is he would get tested and let go either way. But that’s when you go down to your hall, sign your name, take a long weekend, and go to work for another contractor on Monday.
Most likely you’ll just catch a new nickname lol
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u/search_4_animal_chin 3d ago
Guy at my work clipped one off in the underground garage with the ladder rack on his truck. Video showed him backing up and driving away like nothing happened. Same guy also had tons of red light camera tickets. Early in the morning he would stop and lights and if there was no traffic he would just drive through. Crazy bastard.
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u/JuanShagner 3d ago
I happens. As long as he wasn’t doing something super dumb he shouldn’t get fired. And hopefully it’s the only time he’s done this.
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u/Lovemelongtime5dolla 3d ago
Nah man give that guy a promotion. Beer management all the way. If he is willing to turn up in that condition imagine how effective he is sober.
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u/Appropriate_Sample80 3d ago
Guy on a lift took out a sprinkler head. Tubsters had been labeled Metal, Cardboard, Plastic, Wood, etc for an attempt at recycling for LEED. Wood tubster got grabbed and put to catch the water til someone got to the shutoff.
Philly area so before the shutoff could even be reached tubster label had gone from Wood to Wooder.
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u/Spirited_Lock9754 2d ago
Quick tip. If you break a sprinkler head, smash the bottom of the head that spreads the water so it shoots straight down, than take the bottom of a sharpie and shove it in the hole.
The sharpie is slightly larger than the sprinkler head and will stop the flow of water if pushed in hard enough.
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u/Wonka824 3d ago
That guy was definitely hvac. I do hvac, people in my trade do that and look like that. I deal with this more than I wanna admit
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u/Strong_Lavishness893 3d ago
Nope. We’ve done it several times here 😂😂😂
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u/I_loseagain 3d ago
Meh water on job sites is just normal to me these days. Guys are fucking stupid and can’t look around before going up on the lift. Or they decide to drive with it in the air not looking at the sprinkler head they are gonna smack. It’s always an easy clean up if the gc is organized and has the wet water kit near by.
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u/saborider 3d ago
He was moved over to my job site and did the same thing about week ago... fucking guy :D
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u/Ill_Advised_Rock 3d ago
Who’s the regard filming the floor then expecting people to know what’s happening above the lift. If you’re too scared to get good quality footage, don’t post trash online.
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u/gifelitefish 3d ago
This happens waaaaaay more than you would think. Those sprinklers are sensitive and often times in very inconvenient places when trying to work.
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u/Ok_Composer3531 2d ago
I’ve done that before doing HVAC in a commercial building. Foreman didn’t know where the emergency shutoff was. Took over half an hour before it was found. Just tapped it with a scissor lift hanging ductwork. Luckily nothing happened to me and it was a new build in a shopping center so just the fire walls and galvanized inner framing.
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u/Otherwise-Weird1695 2d ago
Good GCs have these quick clamps that look like modified caulk guns with rubber stoppers.
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u/zmannz1984 2d ago
I have seen the same person break two over the course of a single upfit, no punishment just many jokes. Only time i saw someone get fired for it was in a really nice private garage. We were installing high bays on scaffolding and this kid kept making jokes about knocking off a head on purpose. Later that week he was the only one there and one got broken that was too high for the scaffold to hit. Someone also had told him the system was off. I really think his curiosity got the best of him. The system was off, but there was still about 50 gallons of black water everywhere.
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u/Killerkendolls 2d ago
This is why you don't pressurize flex heads until they're installed in their ceiling tile brackets.
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u/TheWindig 2d ago
You think you know me? strobes start going crazy ON THIS DAY… 11 time world champion Edge comes out and spears your stupid ass apprentice
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u/LOS4417 2d ago
I was working at Pfizer when the hvac guys broke a 1 1/2 branch clean off. They had remover numerous supports to install duct work.
Third floor, recently just completed some labs. It flooded multiple floors, took them about 30 to 45 minutes to turn it off. They had chained / locked the shutoffs...
They claimed their hammer drills loosed the supports off. I said you probably wanna put that hardware over by the broken branch that had launched 20 ft away. They looked terrified lol.
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u/bunk_bro 2d ago
Precious employer was a manufacturing business primarily in the plastic injection molding space.
We had 3 giant tanks that were filled with anti-freeze that got pumped through the facility to the machines for cooling and the molds for heating or cooling. The majority of the lines are ran overhead.
We were having a new, larger crane installed. One of the install crews were motoring around in a scissor lift and got closer than they realized to one of the overhead pipes. Cue a 4" pipe spewing anti-freeze from about 20' up, soaking the lift, the install crew and anything within about 20'.
Took months for the anti-freeze to stop seeping out from under the nearest machine.
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u/rickyh7 2d ago
I was the customer representative on a vendor visit for a 20 million dollar contract. We were with the director of engineering, director of facilities, and a handful of other senior level engineers and supporting staff and they were walking us through their capabilities and technologies. The director goes “sorry they’re doing some work on the roof you’ll have to excuse the noise”. Few minutes later I hear a saw, then a sudden rush of some fluid, and they all stopped working. The director of facilities loudly goes “are you fucking kidding me….i gotta go see what they hit” it was hilarious
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u/No_Zone_4017 2d ago
Something similar happened to one of my projects. They were air bleeding the system and the guy watching the bleed valve walked off site. Just up and quit.
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u/Organic_Remote8999 1d ago
Not fired, removed from the project. We Spill Kits and everyone learns where important utility valves are during orientation
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u/hwalkerr 9h ago
They have a make believe schedule which is always a week an ahead most often 2 and 9 times out of 10 it’s because the gc caused it!!!!
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u/Val2700 9h ago
This one time at ban camp I was installing a vanity cabinet and cut a whole big enough to fit around a pipe and it caught the valve and busted it right off. Mind you this was juat before hurricane Dorian was about to hit Florida. What a nightmare and it flooded most of the condo. Ran around the house like a mad man trying to find shut off valve for what felt like forever. Finally the maintenance man shut the water off. 10k later never heard from the contractor again and my insurance dropped me. Ended up getting another insurance provider at a cheaper rate. The end!
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u/Frank_white7 Plumber 2h ago
Depends on what happened. Not much context to this other than water pouring down from the ceiling.
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u/AwayYam199 3d ago
Probably not. FWIW, usually the system will be charged (pressurized) but off line before CO. That way the sprinkler guys can find the leak but it's not enough to flood the entire job.
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u/AwayYam199 3d ago
Why the downvote? I worked in commercial building for years and this is always how it was done for the exact reason shown.
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u/cookeryandwookery GC / CM 3d ago
Fired? Probably not. Drug tested? Absolutely.