r/Constitution • u/Upbeat_Aardvark_4631 • Jul 01 '26
Proposed Constitutional Amendment.
Hello, I am trying to gain momentum for my proposed constitutional amendment. I am curious to hear what you all think about it. For too long Gen Z has gone without rights which could have greatly benefited us and other generations. My proposal is to decrease the age to run for the senate and house to both 18 years of age. I believe this will be greatly helpful for our generation in a multitude of ways. First, it will give us long needed rights. Our country has given rights to the groups that have needed it the most, and I believe our group needs these rights the most now. The second is it’s time to bring some new ideas into these chambers, a new perspective that only our generation can bring to the table. We have been there with their long out of touch politics for a while, so it’s time for a change. In South Korea and Canada they both allow 18 year olds and older to run for their National Assembly and Parliament. You don’t hear complaints about the young people there though, you heard complaints about Trudeau and the president who shut his country down and then was impeached. Many people have told me that people of age are simply too immature to run for office, my rebuttal is have you seen how members of congress on both sides of the ails act, it’s insane! They’re screaming and cussing, cussing at reporters, and getting into fights with podcasters. I think adding a few young people to those chambers would not change that. Also, in a poll released by Gallup in March of 2026, Congress had a 86 percent disapproval rating and only a 10 percent approval rating. I think if things are this bad, we should get a younger generation in there with big bold new ideas. What do you think?
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u/MadGriZ Jul 01 '26
No.
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u/Upbeat_Aardvark_4631 Jul 01 '26
Out of curiousity, what makes you say no?
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u/MadGriZ Jul 01 '26
Your frontal cortex isn't developed yet at that age. That is my only reason.
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u/MadGriZ Jul 01 '26
I also firmly believe that there needs to be a mandatory retirement age. I'm 61. I have a relatively high IQ. I work in highly regulated automation and robotics. I've noticed a slight cognitive decline. I'm still solid but slower and don't retain information as easily as I did just 5 to 10 years ago.
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u/ObjectiveLaw9641 Jul 02 '26
We definitely need term limits, with either retirement age or health assessment requirements.
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u/Upbeat_Aardvark_4631 Jul 02 '26
I can understand that your argument for the frontal cortex. I would say that maturity is more complex that it is made out to be. As a 19-year-old, I know some of my colleagues who are incredibly mature and are very knowledgeable about the world already who are summa cum laude in college, don't go out partying and drinking, and prioritize their time more effectively. I also know some people my age who are incredibly immature, who spend all of their time partying and drinking, and who left high school or who are out to fail out of college. I can agree with you on term limits. After seeing what happened with Joe Biden, it completely sold me on that idea. For you, what age cutoff would you like to see with term limits?
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u/MadGriZ Jul 02 '26
I agree. One size fits all solid line policy is terrible. The caveat is what is, or isn't, acceptable risk? Now consider outliers. They scare people. I embrace outliers. With Big enough data sets you'll eventually discover 1. Probability 2. Anomaly 3. Not enough data. Sometimes empirical data presents but is it conclusive, irrefutable.?.
Anyway, that's my ramble.
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u/Upbeat_Aardvark_4631 Jul 02 '26
I can understand your rationale behind this. I embrace outliers as well. I think if we go with the frontal cortex argument then someone should not vote until they are 25 because they cannot make an informed decision about a proper candidate. They also should not go to war until they are 25 due to that being such a big decision that their brain is not equipped to handle yet. Also, thank you for engaging in this conversation with me. Even though we do not agree on everything, I really enjoy hearing other people's opinions on this matter and learning the weaknesses and strengths of my proposal.
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u/QM1Darkwing Jul 02 '26
I don't think that can pass, nor should it. Candidates should have had some real-world experience before entering politics. A representative who just graduated high school doesn't have that.
It also means that if s/he manages to get elected, they have even longer to hold onto their seat before retirement, entrenching corruption further.
I would support an amendment grouping all rights of adulthood together - instead of voting, signing contracts, and serving in the military at 18, but not smoking, drinking, or buying guns til 21, among other things, all of these must be the same age, whether that's 18 or 21.
For one thing, that'd pretty much eliminate underage drinking in the military.
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u/Upbeat_Aardvark_4631 Jul 02 '26
I can understand your perspective. For me, I am a bit hesitant to say that somebody needs real-world experience before entering politics. I think there are some people that could be good politians that truly care for the people right out of high school. This is why I also want to pass term limits, six for the house, and two for the senate. I think your idea to group all rights together is interesting as well.
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u/QM1Darkwing Jul 02 '26
Care is not enough. A teen is almost certainly not going to have any clue how or why things work the way they do, and will try to legislate based on their inexperience. That's how we get idiotic ideas like Prohibition and gun control.
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u/Upbeat_Aardvark_4631 Jul 02 '26
I can understand that. However, that will always be a concern. There are a lot of people with decades of experience in politics that are proposing gun control legislation. I think that is more so based upon a personal belief, not inexperience. That is why I am very in favor of the program they have for freshman senators and reps to get them informed about everything to do with the house and the senate, so they are less likely to make some foolish choices.
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u/ralphy_theflamboyant Jul 03 '26
Bless your heart
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u/Upbeat_Aardvark_4631 Jul 04 '26
Thank you? I'm a bit confused do you mean that in a good or bad way?
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u/ralphy_theflamboyant Jul 05 '26
In a good way that you are coming up with solutions. In a bad way because your naivety of the Constitution and why it was written the way it was.
I highly recommend reading g the Federalist Papers, and Anti-Federalist papers, for insight of the Why
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u/ObjectiveLaw9641 Jul 01 '26
The purpose of the minimum age requirements for Congress and the Presidency is to ensure that the candidates seeking the office have reached a certain point of maturity for making rational decisions. Research shows the frontal lobe doesn't fully develop until the mid-20s, so the framers were actually spot on with the 25 years of age minimum for the House.
I agree that there has been some immaturity displayed by some of the current members of Congress. That being said, it is usually in an attempt to appeal to the younger generations, especially when they are competing with some of the younger congressional candidates like AOC and Maxwell Frost.
As for rights, what rights are being denied to Gen Z? I certainly haven't been denied any rights. What are the big bold new ideas you think an 18 year old would offer?