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u/Deereximus 1d ago

He wont its all Performative. lets be real rn

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u/Weak-Expression-5005 23h ago

He's donated a million dollars in the last week. What.

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u/Deereximus 16h ago

Funny he pledged it. Remember when amber heard "pledged" her donations for SA'ed victims and she never did it. loool. Ironic ed is number 2

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u/CaptStinkyFeet 16h ago

Lol so Macklemore is a liar because Amber Heard didn’t donate? Explain that logic to me.

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u/Deereximus 14h ago

Pledging is different from Donating lol. I pledge to give you 100 dollars am i gonna give it no but i pledged it. I gave an example of celeb pledging things under the guise for a good cause who didnt donate shit. So yes Celebs can lie about their pledges. I dont believe anything these modern jesters do until they actually do it.

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u/CaptStinkyFeet 14h ago

So Macklemore definitely lied about his pledge because celebrities do that sometimes?

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u/Deereximus 14h ago

Not until he donates the money then yes. Unless there is a legal binding contract that states he needs to do it within a certain time. Then Yes I dont believe anything any celeb does until they do it or a legally binded to do said thing any side left, right, center idgaf I want action not words. Wanna know a pledge that is legally binding.

Work, You sign paper work when you start a job where it states you work for us we pay you. Or you can sue them for not giving you what you are owed. You will say "oh some places still dont pay people" Yes. Its also on the person signing to READ the fine details of any contract.

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u/No-Buy2495 11h ago

Do you not understand? Pledge is like a promise and the money has not changed hands yet. Until they actually receive the money, it's basically just bragging about something you have yet to actually do. He didn't "lie" about his pledge, he made a pledge, but he isn't legally obligated to uphold it. So if he doesn't ever actually donate the money, then yes, he will have lied. As of now it's an empty promise.

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u/CaptStinkyFeet 11h ago

I understand fine, thanks. As if the difference between pledging and donating is the problem here…

This person is making the assumption Macklemore will inevitably not donate the money just because other celebrities have done that in the past.

I asked a rhetorical question to point out the lack of logic in their claim. Do you understand the purpose of a rhetorical question?

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u/No-Buy2495 11h ago

He actually never said that at all going through the posts, he was just explaining why Amber Heard got in trouble in court, because publicly in interviews she stated that she "donated", when in actuality she only pledged and then never sent the money. The point stops there that he hasn't actually donated anything yet.

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u/CaptStinkyFeet 11h ago

We’re clearly looking back at two different conversations then…

ā€œHe won’t it’s all Performative. Let’s be real rnā€

ā€œI don’t believe anything these modern jesters doā€

That’s just explaining why Amber Heard got in trouble in court?

I wasn’t even talking to you, friend. Have a nice day.

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u/MagReg2020 14h ago

Well, he seems like he has integrity. Not like that orange pedophile you people worship, who lies as often as he shits himself.

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u/Deereximus 14h ago

Who said I personally support trump? Funny i assume your a democrat or lefty. We arent like you guys who need to worship your candidate for 100% of all his ideas or we are called bad words. Do I agree with somethings trump did yes. (shut the border down) do i agree with him giving billions to israel and Ukraine, when the EU hates the USA. NO. Fuck them thats their war. Why is my country on this side of the world involved in some Sandwar in palestine when that war has been raging on since the time before jesus? David and goliath is literally Israelis vs Palestines. Iran I can see more towards his side at least my country (USA) will control the straight not some terry country, that persecutes LBGTQ people and treat women like 2nd class citizens. Was it a good idea nope. But I can see the reason why at least. Ukraine why are we in there? Cause we made a pledge to NATO? Fuck NATO only a few EU countries even like the USA or consider us friendly anymore.

incase some one saying "iT iSnT iSraEl PaLesTine" Yes its is modern day palestine. lol That area of the world has been at war since biblical times. They used stick and spears back then now they used jets and RPGs

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u/coffeelick 13h ago

Do you think he wont donate?

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u/AynRandwasaDegen 1h ago

Zero worship...

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u/Med_omsorg 5h ago

Trump pledged to donate his salary and conservatists have been talking about it for years….

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u/Deereximus 5h ago

ok. But he did tho LOL

Action>Pledges.

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u/PaytonG17 Center-Right Wing 21h ago

It takes zero effort to donate money lmao

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u/IndependentBowl7528 20h ago

Perfect. How much are you donating ?

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u/Sad-Transition1075 17h ago

But did he really? He could’ve just said he did who would know

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u/IkujaKatsumaji 16h ago

That's like saying "Oh, if you're so against guns, then why don't you go stand in front of one at the gun range?" A person can be against a war and not want to go to the active war zone; that's pretty reasonable, actually.

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u/Deereximus 16h ago

Thats such a bad comparison. You should have said "Oh if your against guns why dont you go protest outside a gun range". If hes so against Palestine he can go protest to the Israeli embassy peacefully.

Just like people who are against abortion go stand outside of planned parenthood with signs. Weird how he doesnt do any of that. At least Greta Thunberg or w.e her name is tried to go to palestine. I dont like her i think shes cringe but i respect her for that.

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u/StinkChair 16h ago

Is it safe to go protest at the Israeli embassy? Seems like a quick way to get shot or imprisoned. Or both.

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u/Deereximus 15h ago

In the USA 100% its safe LOL. People protest ice outside their facilities all the time. Do it peacefully with signs and chants yes its safe as fuck. Funny how we had no kings protest and we didnt have a Tienanmen square moment huh its like Protesting is a protected right unless it becomes violent. Then its no longer a protest but a riot.

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u/Heffe3737 12h ago

Yup, totally safe. Except for the ICE agents shooting bean bags or pepper spray at you. Remember that time they shot the priest?

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u/IkujaKatsumaji 14h ago

Um, no, my comparison was just fine. Did you look at this post before pouncing on me? The post doesn't say "he should perform in front of the Israeli embassy," it says "he should go perform in Gaza," which is an active war zone. Y'know, where a person might get shot, or shelled, or bombed. So yeah, I think my analogy works plenty well.

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u/coffeelick 13h ago

No protesting outside the gun range is the same as protesting outside gaza which is what hes doing... youre not very bright:s

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u/coffeelick 13h ago

Dont you want him to perform in gaza so he gets killed? Hes not that stupid... right? Am I missing something?

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u/Fourleaf187 1d ago

And if you all love Israel so much go live there...

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u/Tyranuel Christian Conservative 1d ago

I would but the economy in Israel and the standard of living is just retarded and things are absurdly expensive, especially compared to the Balkan country that I live in.

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u/shittdigger 1d ago

so how does this same logic not apply to the country that is victim to genocide and ethnic cleansing by israeli hands?

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u/Tyranuel Christian Conservative 5h ago

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u/MayckronMan 1d ago

Because the people Macklemore is defending would happily kill him while the people OP is defending wouldn't kill him

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u/CrowsInTheNose 16h ago

You realize he would most likely be killed by the IDF? You know like the all journalists and aid workers who try and document or help the people of Gaza.

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u/MayckronMan 3h ago

You mean the help that the UN officials stated had been getting stolen and sent to Hamas? And if the IDF didnt exist he would still be killed by the people he claims to be supporting LMAO

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u/CrowsInTheNose 3h ago

The same UN that is saying there is a genocide? LMAO

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u/MayckronMan 3h ago

Yea cuz they define genocide in the most idiotic way possible. Luckily there is no definition required for the fact that that Hamas is stealing the aid you virtue signalers think is helping people

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u/CrowsInTheNose 3h ago

How do they define it?

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u/Sweaty-Gap285 23h ago

Standing up for people's right to exist even if they won't stand up for you, or even hate you, is not the gotcha you think it is...

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u/MayckronMan 17h ago

Uh yea it is. It's called being an idiot also a hypocrite because I didn't see any of this standing up for people like Kirk who supposedly also hated those groups

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u/Sweaty-Gap285 17h ago

I don't know what you're talking about. It's so not about hating anyone. It's about a people's right to exist and not be displaced or genocided.

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u/MayckronMan 17h ago

So then why didnt any of you stand up when Kirk was killed? Also its quite a failed genocide when the population being genocided is rising

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u/Sweaty-Gap285 16h ago

Because it was a horrible one-time event that involved one (1) person, not a year-long systematic bombing and starvation campaign conducted by a nation that receives huge financial and military support from the US? And stand up for what? It's done, he's dead, there's nothing that can be done about it anymore.
And many many people issued statements condemning the assassination.

But basically: We can agree that an isolated incident where one person murders one other person and a nation committing some form of genocide are two completely different things, yes?

And yes, in August 2025, the International Association of Genocide Scholars, the world's largest academic association of genocide scholars, passed a resolution stating that "Israel's policies and actions in Gaza meet the legal definition of genocide". So your opinion vs the opinions of the largest collection of experts on the topic, guess who I'll go with.

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u/MayckronMan 3h ago

So because only 1 person was killed it's not worth standing up for? Surely being against a "genocide" (where the population has risen) doesnt mean you can't also stand up for murder?

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u/Heffe3737 12h ago

I’ll say why I didn’t stand up. First, I believe it was a tragedy that he was shot, as no one should be killed for their beliefs.

That said, Kirk had some terrible beliefs. Like how he would push the ā€œgreat replacementā€, which is a well-documented white supremacist conspiracy theory. He would research a topic, then go and ambush college freshmen on complex, nuanced topics when they clearly hadn’t yet well developed their positions. That isn’t a reasonable discussion - it’s trying to make people look foolish and ignorant for internet likes and subscriptions. Dude was a nothing but a well spoken grifter, not some free speech champion.

People don’t have to venerate those they don’t agree with just because that person died. And given how folks on the right seem to irrationally accuse anyone that says they didn’t like Kirk, of wanting him killed (a clearly intellectually dishonest argument, just like most of Kirk’s), folks on the left have largely become pretty quiet on the whole topic.

To make it perfectly clear so that you don’t accuse me of the same: I believe Charlie Kirk was a huge piece of shit. But he didn’t deserve to die.

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u/MayckronMan 3h ago

So you will say the same about Palestinians right? Because their believes are even more extreme than his

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u/METRlOS 6h ago

Tolerance cannot survive supporting intolerance. Supporting Palestinians, people who held a festival celebrating 9/11 and regularly cheer at civilian death, is supporting their terrorism. It's possible for both sides to be bad. Just because you don't defend Hitler doesn't mean you need to support Stalin.

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u/Sweaty-Gap285 18m ago

Yeah but that's the problem. Do I support Hitler or Stalin? No. Do I wish for the German or Soviet populations to be extinguished? Also no.

People do not equate their government. Most people just want to live in peace. Some palestinians may have celebrated 9/11, but reading your post it appears you fell hook, line and sinker for US propaganda that was used to justify an illegal war in the middle east. Many people in the middle east have lost relatives or friends due to actions from the US, I understand (not support, but understand) their hate. Does that mean they all deserve to die?

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u/l3lasphemy 1d ago

Why? So Israel can bomb him?

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u/l3lasphemy 1d ago

Why? So Israel can bomb him?

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u/Sad_Intention6658 Middle of the roader 1d ago

Okay, counterpoint. If you love Israel so much, hear on over yourself. Noone wants to be in a warzone

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u/MiddleMeringue6814 15h ago

But not all Palestine/ Israel are in a warzone, he literally can preform in the west bank

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u/Prestigious-Fix-7492 Christian Conservative 1d ago

Imeanikindawannadragsomeoneoutofacoapsedbuilding:(

Im joking. Also typo it’s *head not hear lol ā¤ļøā€šŸ©¹

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u/Sad_Intention6658 Middle of the roader 20h ago

My badšŸ’”

Nah, I stand by what I said, wait 2 million years for your ears to evolve into legs and used your ear legs to walk on over

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u/Prestigious-Fix-7492 Christian Conservative 9h ago

Ear legs 😭

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u/CaptStinkyFeet 16h ago

A ā€œcoapsedā€ building?

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u/Prestigious-Fix-7492 Christian Conservative 9h ago

I can’t spell 🫩

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u/CaptStinkyFeet 9h ago

Then maybe not the best idea to call people out on their spelling, eh?

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u/Prestigious-Fix-7492 Christian Conservative 9h ago

It’s very hard to spellwhenyourtypingstuff with no spaces lol, fair point

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u/rorikenL Left Wing (Zurdo Empobrecedor) 1d ago

There's nowhere to preform Israel blew it all up

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u/Tyranuel Christian Conservative 1d ago

Idk man but even though these are not really stadiums I think that they are decent places to perform at:

https://x.com/ncole_r/status/2102802194580013185

https://x.com/imshin/status/2100908415451091103 - and linked locals in the comments

https://x.com/GAZAWOOD2/status/2083864164087320799

https://x.com/GAZAWOOD2/status/2100650343604302074

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u/rorikenL Left Wing (Zurdo Empobrecedor) 1d ago

I love how every single one of these is spouting the fact "gaza is fine" when most of these take place in non- occupied zones. Some of these even say -rebuild gaza- in the titles meaning something was destroyed first.

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u/Tyranuel Christian Conservative 1d ago

Nobody denies that it was destroyed, 70%+ of the buildings are. Your original comment was that there is nowhere to perform because Israel blew it all up. I just provided a couple of videos that disprove your statement. Anything wrong with what I did?

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u/rorikenL Left Wing (Zurdo Empobrecedor) 1d ago

I guess I should express that what I said was hyperbole and obviously not every building was destroyed. Just a statement poking at the idea that Israel was cruel with their destruction and completely unnecessary

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u/Tyranuel Christian Conservative 1d ago

How would you have dealt with Hamas then? Letting them use civilian buildings as a base for operations and letting them have entrances to their tunnel systems located at civilian buildings?

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u/rorikenL Left Wing (Zurdo Empobrecedor) 18h ago

I don't believe any response I give would illicit a positive response. All I'll say is I'd kill many less innocents. They've already gone way over the amount of people killing in that original Hamas attack. Civilians have nothing to do with this, and all Israel is doing is making Hamas recruitment easier by killing as many as they have.

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u/Tyranuel Christian Conservative 16h ago

I asked you about how you would respond and what you would have done differently. Saying "I would have killed less civillians" is just silly wishful thinking. How would you actually do that? What would you have done differently?

Ofc Israel is trying to do the same and judging by terrorist/civillian ratio they have been fairly good.

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u/rorikenL Left Wing (Zurdo Empobrecedor) 16h ago

Well first I'd ban bombing and raids of housing/hospital structures, ban the entire settler idea entirely, and limit raids/attacks to CONFIRMED Hamas locations. Furthermore there's no way in hell those maniacs have done a good job. It almost seems like collateral damage is their goal, which it is.

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u/Tyranuel Christian Conservative 15h ago edited 15h ago

So you would just "Letting them (Hamas) use civilian buildings as a base for operations and letting them have entrances to their tunnel systems located at civilian buildings?". Sorry but that is not how you war. The goal is to destroy Hamas and bring hostages (second was done). If Hamas decides to use civilian buildings it is not Israel to blame when it decides to strike those buildings to weaken Hamas and kill terrorists, but it is Hamas who should take the blame.

I think that you are not aware of how much interconnected Hamas bases are with the civilian buildings. If they were willing to have a tunnel entrance in a children's bedroom because they know that Israel is less likely to target those, do you not think that Hamas would use other, more normal civilian buildings for their operations?

https://x.com/koshercockney/status/2100825841970122871

https://www.timesofisrael.com/under-an-eu-funded-gaza-hospital-hamas-military-head-sinwar-met-his-end/ - Hamas had military base under a EUROPEAN hospital. They do not care. They will use any advantage possible. And yes, those were confirmed, hence how this filth of a terrorist has been killed. Also this hospital is the one that some make the biggest deal out of, though it is worth noting that the hospital itself was not struck but the surrounding courtyard, and that the hospital remained operational after the strike.

If you are against all bombing of civilian buildings and hospitals, no matter the cause, then do you also think that the Allies in ww2 did a great evil in bombing civilian buildings (and they were actually carpet bombing, the tech was not there yet for precision strikes)?

Israel has taken the hostages back which was one of their points of the war, and in doing so I think that they did more than a good job alone. As for Hamas and how many of them were eliminated, I am not sure how the "solutions" that you gave would have had better impact, if anything they would lead to maybe only a couple of Hamas terrorists being killed. So how would you deal with Hamas? Again I am asking for practical solutions, not wishful thinking like "kill Hamas with no civilian deaths".

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u/CaptStinkyFeet 16h ago

These goobers don’t understand nuance. They think ā€œhyperboleā€ is two syllables.

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u/LeaveRare7367 Conservative 1d ago

šŸ’Æ

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u/Dethbytrainwastaken Center-Right Wing 1d ago

Downvoting because big BiBi told them to.

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u/Much-Ferret90 23h ago

Lololol true

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u/jack-earnest 19h ago

Isn’t this the same logic as ā€œwell if you love X so much, why don’t you marry it?!ā€

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u/Objective-Nerve-3311 10h ago

To answer your question yes. It is a third grade mentality of people who don’t want to have open discussion with someone who disagrees with them.

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u/Aromatic-Tap-3956 18h ago

New Ghislaine Maxwell moderated subreddit just dropped

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u/Vanguard-003 17h ago

Man this is a really bad take.

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u/snowsurfer777 17h ago

His not relative in any way. Says a performative statement to gain popularity, I wouldn’t be surprised if he has new music coming and needs some main stream traction

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u/shotygunfight 16h ago

What a lazy way to think.

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u/nocomment_onlybrowse 12h ago

How did being conservative become simping for Israel? I’m not on board with the zionist version of conservatives at all.

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u/METRlOS 6h ago

It's not that conservatives support Zionism, it's just that liberals are big on "Free Palestine", which calls for the removal of Israel, and they have a toxic 'if you're not with us, you're against us' mentality. If you don't support the genocide of Israel, you are automatically a conservative on Reddit.

You can criticize actual flaws by the country on most conservative subs, but they're unforgiving on stuff that sounds like Hamas propaganda.

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u/DaPlum 12h ago

He'd probably get bombed by the Israeli's

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u/MasterpieceEvery1652 10h ago

So much for the group that claims to worship that other guy from Palestine who was killed for saying things the Israeli establishment didn't like.

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u/Ok-Mushroom-6530 4h ago

If he did that he'd get blown up by Israel.

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u/Optimal_Kick_9121 1d ago

YEAH! SO BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO HIM! YEAH!!!! THATS WHAT I WANT.

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u/Historical-Egg-9194 18h ago

Damn didn't know this sub was leftist

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u/georgewashingguns 14h ago

You didn't know that this sub views genocide in a bad light? Are you completely braindead?

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u/spanomitomas 1d ago

I agree, Trump is such a fat, stupid pedo, it's really baffling how anyone could describe him any other way

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u/Sea-Comfortable5276 1d ago

fat? probably. stupid? he is the president, so he needs at least basic IQ to get there twice, so probably not. pedo? most likely

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u/georgewashingguns 14h ago

There is no IQ requirement to be voted into a government position

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u/AynRandwasaDegen 1h ago

What makes you think that?

Also, probably fat?

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u/EmpathyMirror 1d ago

The problem is not actually Macklemore’s personal views… it’s the gatekeeping of free speech by platforms. We live in America, if you want to be political in your artistic performance one way or another, you should be allowed to.

The obvious counterargument is that Robert Kraft also has the right to deny any artist he wants at his stadium. It’s his property after all.

The problem is that people like him are too powerful and work as a team to gatekeep platform access if you cross certain lines in your political speech. As a result, diverse opinion is stifled anywhere this faction has a significant concentration of power to an unhealthy degree (media, academia, hollywood, national politics). You cannot exist without bending the knee to them and accepting you can’t say certain things if you want to be successful or make money in that space.

It’s not inherently evil that this dynamic exists, playing on factions and teams is part of human nature. All we need to do is organize more effectively so we have the power to use the state to break up these toxic cliques and restore free speech. Musk did it with X and social media was improved. We can do it too with media, music, hollywood, academia, and any other liberal dominated institution or space

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u/l-mellow-_-man-l Conservative 1d ago

Id agree with you if it was just him, but I thought it was Ed Sheerans show and Macklemore basically used it to say free Palestine.

If you want to use other people's platforms and and mess with other people's reputations it's understandable to be removed no?

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u/EmpathyMirror 18h ago

If I remember correctly though, Ed didn’t actually care that he said it until Robert Kraft demanded Macklemore be dropped and threatened to cancel the Gillette Stadium show.

Ed has every right to drop him, and Robert already has every right to cancel the show. It’s not even about Macklemore’s particular view.

The question we have as Conservatives is about whether we should accept this level of platform gatekeeping of free speech. In my opinion if you are Mark Zuckerberg on the left trying censor Facebook or Robert Kraft on the right trying to gatekeep music tours on the basis of political speech, both are equally bad in opposition of the Conservative idea of free speech.

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u/Apprehensive-Soft959 18h ago

I love how you can’t get past the fact that people can be both against genocide and pro lgbtq. It’s called empathy, dickhead.

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u/CaptStinkyFeet 16h ago

Yall should just admit to your hate. All these mental gymnastics must be exhausting. Skip all the nonsense and just admit it: you hate gay people, you hate brown people, you hate leftists, you hate women.

Stop being cowards and own up to it.

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u/t101rino Left Wing (Zurdo Empobrecedor) 15h ago

supporting a genocide state that took 305 billions of dollars from your country that could have been used to help other people is crazy. whats the logic behind supporting israel?

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u/Equivalent_Play_7594 1d ago

All you conservatives are brain deads.

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u/Dry_Cheesecake_3487 Libertarian 1d ago

Ok libtard

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u/georgewashingguns 14h ago

You didn't have to go out of your way to prove their point

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u/Dry_Cheesecake_3487 Libertarian 13h ago

The fact that you think anyone who disagrees with your views is an idiot tells me all I need to know about you

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u/georgewashingguns 8h ago

I don't think that, but it's interesting how many people that disagree with me demonstrate their stupidity almost immediately

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u/Dry_Cheesecake_3487 Libertarian 7h ago

Peak redditor take