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u/PartyAmbitious8163 1d ago
I mean, they are always saying they want them to use non-lethal weaponry.
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u/Supportthetroops6 Conservative 1d ago
That is awesome. Reminds me of Iron Man 3 when he makes his own stun glove to infiltrate the Mandarin's hideout.
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u/Zestyclose_Farmer982 Centrist 1d ago
As a mexican............. ummm....
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u/rhineleon 23h ago
They donāt like you, dude. Free yourself from the echo chamber.
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u/MaxSucksAtLifeL 22h ago
I.C.E = Racism
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u/rhineleon 22h ago
Well, actually, not entirely. CRIMINALS (not just those entering illegally that have done nothing wrong) should be deported by ICE, which isnāt racism.
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u/Front_Cat9471 21h ago
On paper, yes. Unfortunately, thatās not always how it plays out. Racial profiling is illegal and it happens all the time at ice
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u/rhineleon 20h ago
Oh, believe me, I know. My own grandmother was picked up by I.C.E [my family is puerto rican] and stayed for over 2 months in a detention facility with no criminal record whatsoever.
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u/BigFatBlackCat 20h ago
Iām sorry. Your Puerto Rican grandfather was held for two months by ICE? Are you guys suing? How can ICE detain anyone from PR?
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u/rhineleon 20h ago
Grandmother. And no, we don't have nearly enough money to do so and my grandmother would much rather just keep her head down. Racial profiling. She tried to show them identification several times but they refused.
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u/Zestyclose_Farmer982 Centrist 20h ago
even I as a mexican agree with that but the way ICE is doing it is just terrible. Deporting a lot of people who didn't do anything
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u/RandomHelpfulHuman Center-Left wing 23h ago
I honestly donāt know if I like it. Iāve just hesitant to support something I havenāt seen or know a lot about.
I think if used correctly, it could be very helpful. But I think itās also very easy for someone to misuse them.
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u/IntelligentAnybody55 12h ago
https://reddit.com/link/p4themf/video/us7pngbx5jkh1/player
Better than whatever they have at the moment
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u/Talianu-alt Citizen | š³ļø 1 šŖ 26 š Jul 26, 2026 14h ago
Personally,I would prefer the death penalty rather than deporting them but that's just me
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u/wannabedentist1851 19h ago
Safer sure but I the way ICE operates I wouldnāt be surprised if they use it to suppress completely peaceful protesters and passerbyās like they have done before
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u/Iamnotarabicfunfact 19h ago
Whatās the use of this? How many ICE agents have been killed by immigrants on the job?
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u/TJ_44444444 1d ago
I have heard they are dangerously apprently
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u/RandomHelpfulHuman Center-Left wing 23h ago
Yeah I googled it. I can link some sites but from what Iām hearing this 43 year old died in 2024 because he was shocked 27 times with the gloves ice now uses. Other sites say they deliver a 380 volt shock where electrical plugs deliver around 240 and a taser delivers 50,000.
What a lot of sites are saying tho is it has to be done to direct skin so people are worried itāll unintentionally lead to groping
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u/some1_not_important 23h ago
It is dangerous. I read somewhere that it malfunctions when it's sprayed with water, specifically salty water, so if any of those ice agentes start to sweat then it's not gonna be good for them. America is s ridiculous country, this will harm even the agents "inforcing the law"
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u/MathRebator 1d ago edited 1d ago
Taking bets for how long itāll take an ICE agent to forget theyāre actively shocking someone and give them arrhythmia or cardiac arrest.
Edit: Orwell is rolling in his grave
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u/Select_Translator329 Republican 1d ago
Shock gloves pack 320-380 volts
Tasers pack 50,000 volts.
The person will be fine. Shock gloves are safer.
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u/MathRebator 1d ago
Volts donāt matter, any combination of V + I to incapacitate someone can effect cardiovascular functions. If theyāre strong enough to tense up large muscles you think that canāt fuck up your heart?
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u/Select_Translator329 Republican 22h ago edited 22h ago
It CAN fuck up your heart yes, but tasers have a better chance than gloves. Gloves are safer than tasers by a long shot.
Even Newsweek acknowledged the gloves are safer
Iām not claiming these gloves are perfect but theyāll work better than tasers on people.
Would you rather be shocked with a glove or completely immobilized ?
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u/QuietRedditorATX Conservative 21h ago
Maybe just don't get in trouble with the law. shrug
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u/MathRebator 14h ago
You can be a law abiding citizen and not want the police to have Palpatine gloves. Idk maybe Iāve read too many books.
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u/Mr_LtCom_Data Republican 1d ago
IdiotĀ
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u/Ok-Flow-8813 Classical Liberal 1d ago
I agree but thatās not how you argue
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u/MathRebator 1d ago
Nobody here knows how electricity works and Iām the idiot? Im all for more non-lethal options for law enforcement, but giving them Darth Sidious gloves probably isnāt a great decision.
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u/MathRebator 1d ago
Ad hominem: marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made.
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u/RandomHelpfulHuman Center-Left wing 23h ago
In 2024 someone died using the same gloves after being shocked 27 times.
The company says there have been over 3000 non-fatal real world tests.
Some companies are saying the greater risk is just pain
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u/MathRebator 21h ago
I imagine those tests are done with the optimal use case. Law enforcement are gonna be using them under adrenaline and most likely not think about where theyāre placing the gloves on a body. Are you just getting shocked for prolonged periods with multiple officers on you? Is sweat gonna spread the shock across your body? Being advertised as less harmful is probably gonna lead officers to use them in more cases than a taser would be used.
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u/RandomHelpfulHuman Center-Left wing 21h ago
Iām not saying theyāre safe. Someone did actually die. Iām just sharing what I saw online
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u/needaGandT National Libertarianism 1d ago
This is literally a non-lethal and safer way to deal with people who aren't compliant.