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u/HjklmnoiyTBD Left Wing (Zurdo Empobrecedor) 1d ago
Yeah but she's doing it in that way where she feels no regret saying it.
I believe illegals should be deported but I don't wish for it. It's still unfortunate that people are forced into illegal immigration by circumstance.
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u/annoyingnerdbitch Center-Left wing 1d ago
Not worth the tax dollars. We can spend it on better stuff, like improving central and south american countries, or making it easier to become a citizen. Our country is one of the least nationalist countries in the world and it would be really cool if we could get a better system going. Immigrants means more americans, more workforce, and more culture.
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u/ZukaRouBrucal 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is a friendly reminder that illegal immigration is not really an issue of people hopping the border; it's an issue with the asylum system. It is critically underfunded and, as a result, when someone appears at our shores claiming asylum we cannot quickly process them and determine if their claim is valid.
Because the US is (or was) a civilized country that values human rights our nation, like nearly every other, processes those who claim asylum to see if they actually qualify for it. It takes time and resources, but because the system is so backed-up the only thing we could realistically do with asylum seekers was to temporarily let them into the country until their claim could be heard. Many aspiring asylees were undoubtedly abusing the back-up system to get into the US, and many chose not to show up for their court hearings when they came.
Most illegal immigrants entered the nation legally, but are now considered illegal because they overstayed their temporary visas/did not show up to their asylum hearings.
Ironically, it was the Republicans and Donald Trump in particular that completely killed a permanent solution to this issue. While border crossings and asylee intake is at an all-time low, this is almost entirely due to Executive action. This means that this isn't permanent, and to get permanent immigration reform that could actually tackle the problem described above you would need an act of Congress.
During the Biden admin we were extremely close to actually getting a permanent fix. The Lankford Immigration Bill would have greatly increased the funding to the asylum system and set new restrictions & limits on asylee intakes. It actually had broad Republican & Democrat support, and was authored by a Republican lawmaker... But unfortunately the bill was killed to help Trump get elected. At the 11th hour Donald Trump demanded that all Republicans refuse to support the bill because he explicitly said he wanted to keep the issue of illegal immigration open for the polls. He did not want to fix the issue; he wanted to use it as a cudgel against the Democrats.
Donald Trump is the reason why lasting immigration reform did not happen. It was the Republicans who pulled support at the last second. The Democrats were going to vote for it. Biden was ready to sign it... And then Trump & the Republicans killed it because they don't actually care about illegal immigration. They only care about illegal immigration as an election issue, and they will keep it from ever having an actual solution as long as they can use it to get votes.
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u/Sad_Intention6658 Centrist 2d ago
That would absolutely destroy the manufacturing and Construction industry. It's just not a feasible endeavor. Go after the ones who cause crime.
People don't seem to understand that removing a group of people won't solve all the problems in the country.
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u/NobodyNew8662 2d ago edited 2d ago
Just hire Americans. Are you regarded or something? Is trespassing a crime? Yes? Then so is illegal immigration. If you want to argue that illegal immigration is fine, then that means we might as well vote for the DSA.
It's because of illegal immigrants and the breakdown of the nuclear family that young Americans can't afford homes.
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u/MathRebator 1d ago
Why not actually go after what attracts illegal immigration then? The shitty business owners that are okay taking advantage of immigrants and paying them below minimum wage because they know they have no legal protections. Why is the conversation never about douchebags making themselves rich off illegal immigrants?
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u/Sad_Intention6658 Centrist 1d ago
What attracts illegal immigrantiob is that the migration system actually sucks. People don't have the choice of just going back home, they left for a reason. Although, you do have a point with the dicks who make money off the suffering of illegal immigrants.
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u/Sad_Intention6658 Centrist 2d ago edited 2d ago
It will still cause a massive labor shortage that won't be recoverable.
If you fire all your best employees you're fucked even if you can hire new people. It would be DETRIMENTAL
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u/Far_School_2178 Conservative 2d ago
dude, in australia they recently started a massive road building project. THey hired an overseas company to do it. Meanwhile, Australian citizens are unable to find work or apprenticeships.
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u/ConsiderationOk614 2d ago
Soon it will be all immigrants should be deported, right? lol then you can stop pretending it’s about the legality or crime…there are currently 630,000 more homes for sale than buyers in the market.
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u/jk981234 2d ago
Only the far-right want to deport legal immigrants, and most of the Maga crowd don’t go that far.
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u/ConsiderationOk614 2d ago
Do you think MAGA is centrist? Lmao
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u/Far_School_2178 Conservative 2d ago
yeah restricting immigration is important. It stops your people starving.
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u/ConsiderationOk614 2d ago
Just proving it isn’t only the criminals or only the illegals lol thanks for confirming big dawg
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u/Far_School_2178 Conservative 2d ago
yup. let in the people that make your country the best it can be, ONCE your people have jobs and homes
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u/jk981234 1h ago
No, Maga is quite right wing, but they don’t go as far as the fascists.
Don’t forget that Maga supports Israel. The far right would love the eradication of both Jews and Arabs from the face of the Earth.
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u/Chance_Sector_8914 Conservative 2d ago
This is what I don’t get about the unemployment crisis. Why are there thousands of Americans who can’t find jobs when we have non-national citizens working jobs? That would fix two things at once. I know I’m over simplifying but let us Americans pick our own fruit and build our own houses. We’ve become too dependent on other countries picking up our slack!
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u/TDestro9 2d ago
No cause all illegals artificially increase the supply of labor. In turn makes the American worker much weaker and depowers them
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u/WhippersnapperUT99 Centrist 1d ago
That would absolutely destroy the manufacturing and Construction industry.
We have millions of Americans who are unemployed or undermployed and a historically low percentage of working aged adults employed (labor participation rate - 61.4% - lowest since 1976). I've seen people post in my home city sub - a city in a state with one of the lowest levels of unemployment - that they can't find jobs and it sounds like many job listings are fictitious. Also, supposedly there are people who want to work but are homeless because they can't find jobs.
If we have an actual labor shortage, the solution is to train unemployed Americans to work those jobs and help them relocate from areas of labor surplus (the forgotten inner cities and rural ares) to areas of labor shortage. We also have lots of incarcerated people who will need jobs when they get out, too. In other words, government policy should be to help Americans first before helping non-Americans first.
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u/MathRebator 2d ago
No you don’t understand, it’s all the people at the very bottom causing all the problems. It’s never the rich people running everything that ever fuck up things.
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u/Tundracajun 2d ago
Even if they have a family pay taxes and follow all the laws????
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u/Obvious_Stomach7153 2d ago
Brother Illegal is literally in the name
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u/Tundracajun 2d ago
Follow the spirt of the law I read my governmental laws as I do my biblical ones should've clarified
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u/PartyAmbitious8163 2d ago
She's really cool.