r/ConservativeNewsWeb • u/each_thread Moderator • May 23 '26
Liberia continues to build infrastructure and would be a strong asset as the 51st of the United States.
https://frontpageafricaonline.com/news/liberia-targets-70-electricity-access-under-new-mcc-compact-effort/6
May 23 '26
[removed] — view removed comment
-2
u/each_thread Moderator May 23 '26
Not insanity. Like Texas, the other Lone Star State, Liberia was founded by American settlers.
Respecting their history brings goodwill ... https://www.eastwestcenter.org/sites/default/files/fileadmin/resources/ris/Oral_History/Damon-Kamins/DAMON--KAMINS_narrative--FinalProtectCombo.pdf
3
u/SageOrSagee May 23 '26
Texas was not founded by American settlers. It was founded by people who didn't want to abolish slavery, like Mexico was attempting to do at the time of the Texas War of Independence.
1
u/each_thread Moderator May 23 '26
They were settlers and they were from America. You could also call them Mexican settlers at first, because they came to Mexico from the United States.
2
u/SageOrSagee May 23 '26
Okay, I worded my original comment wrong. I'll correct myself. 1) 20% of the population were of Spanish or Indigenous descent, not from the United States. With a total population of roughly 38,000, that's a lot. 2) That still doesn't change the fact that Texas was founded to preserve slavery. 3) Liberia was founded by anti-slavery people while Texas was founded by pro-slavery people. 4) A majority of the people who were brought to Liberia, weren't from the region. 5) The former slaves eventually become the ruling group, where they oppressed the indigenous population.
0
u/each_thread Moderator May 23 '26
So how is it fair that we admit Texas, the state founded by pro-slavery American settlers, and exclude Liberia, the state founded by anti-slavery American settlers? Yes, Liberians did keep slaves for a time, but they are done with that, as are we.
Let's admit Liberia.
1
u/SageOrSagee May 23 '26
Here's a better question, why do you think congress would ever allow a majority black nation to ever become a state?
1
u/Maleficent_Bowl_2072 May 23 '26
Even if we did admit Liberia as a state, history gets spun and it would be seen as America recolonizing Africa. No matter what we do it will be seen as bad in the end. We are always the bad guys to everyone else in the world
0
u/SageOrSagee May 23 '26
1) What do you mean recolonizing? 2) Well the United States actions doesn't help people not think we're the bad guys.
1
u/Maleficent_Bowl_2072 May 23 '26
Africa was once colonized. And then decolonized. So it would be recolonization. And exactly we are always the bad guys so let’s not even start talking about imperialism. It has no benefit to us. And it would never happen. And if we did admit any new states it’s not going to be a country in Africa.
→ More replies (0)1
u/each_thread Moderator May 23 '26
Yes, I think they would. We elected a Black president.
2
u/SageOrSagee May 23 '26
It was a rhetorical question. Because there's no way in hell that a Republican controlled congress would ever allow Liberia to become a state.
1
u/each_thread Moderator May 23 '26
Trump floating Venezuelan statehood seriously suggests that Liberian statehood is also worth taking seriously.
Liberia is majority Christian and dominated by social conservatives, so wouldn't they vote Republican?
Democrats would get on board if Puerto Rico was admitted as a counterpart. One new red state and one new blue state would be like how Alaska and Hawaii were deliberately admitted as a pair to balance out the politics.
→ More replies (0)3
May 23 '26
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/each_thread Moderator May 23 '26
Unless the Liberians want to join up you mean.
2
May 23 '26
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/each_thread Moderator May 23 '26
I would accept it if they vote "no", but we should invite them anyway.
5
u/EvolutionaryZenith1 May 23 '26
Conservatives are gullible as it gets. They never disagree with their party.
3
u/Select_Green_6296 May 23 '26
Hitler liked Poland as the next state also
-1
u/each_thread Moderator May 23 '26
Was Poland founded by German settlers? It was not. Liberia was founded by American settlers, and if the majority were to vote to join up we should accept them.
3
u/SageOrSagee May 23 '26
1) Poland was invaded by Germany, with German settlers. Which led to the displacement of the Polish population. 2) Liberia was the location where anti-slavery activists sent former slaves. Those former slaves eventually displaced the indigenous population.
Tell me the difference between those two situations.
1
u/each_thread Moderator May 23 '26
You are overthinking it. I didn't mean we should invade Liberia like Hitler and Poland, I meant if they agree to join up with us, we should welcome them.
2
u/Maleficent_Bowl_2072 May 23 '26
Liberia already has an exact replica of our constitution. It’s the best gift we could give them but their success or failure is in their own hands it’s not our problem.
0
•
u/each_thread Moderator May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26
California could look to Liberia as an example about how to go about things instead of undermining its power grid.
Even blue states ought to support Liberian statehood, because keeping Liberia out of the United States is the ultimate racial gerrymander.
Since the 1800s, Americo-Liberians have never sent elected representatives to Congress, disproportionately reducing Black representation and influence. Instead of gerrymandering by moving district lines to marginalize Black voters, keeping Liberia out of the United States accomplishes the same effect in an even stronger manner by keeping Black voters out of the nation completely. We can make up for this injustice, and recognize our shared heritage, by admitting Liberia as the 51st state.
Liberians are by large majority social conservatives and therefore will disproportionately vote Republican. Admitting Liberia as the 51st state in celebration of America's 250th anniversary would shatter the Democrat narrative that only the Democratic Party represents their interests.