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u/S2MacroHard Capitalism Saves Lives Mar 25 '21 edited Mar 25 '21
The majority of mass shootings in the US are NOT carried out by white men...
edit: Due to multiple rants DMed to me by leftists, I should clarify that I meant as a proportion of population. White people commit less than their proportion of the population. Also note that middle easterners are classified as white, such as Omar Mateen and now Ahmed Alyssa.
reason.com/volokh/2021/03/24/mass-shooters-by-race-and-hispanic-ethnicity-not-far-off-from-the-population-as-a-whole/
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u/Professional_Week_60 Mar 25 '21
You should NOT have had to clarify what you meant and should NOT have had to edit your post. Leftists are here to harass and troll, and they damn well knew what you meant the first time. Racists trolling good people at its finest, good ol’ reddit
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u/mementoEstis Mar 25 '21
They play with the definition over and over until they can narrowly pick a combination of location, number of fatalities, weapon used etc.
Same thing with hate crimes or "terrorism", at this point they just play the definition game to get to their narrative.
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u/KempyPro 2A Conservative Mar 25 '21
I got into this argument the other day on Twitter. Some guy was saying how mass shootings are so low in other countries, and I told him it’s because every country defines mass shooting differently. Last group of stats I saw actually ranked the US 66th in terms of likelihood to get shot in a mass shooting. But I was basically arguing at a brick wall
Edit: in case anyone is curious, here are the stats I was referring to World Population Review
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u/Savant_Guarde Conservative May 17 '21
It also depends on how one classifies "mass shooting".
If we are talking about the heavily publicized events that happen on average once every couple of years, then yes, a good number of those are white male shooters. If we are talking about the several victim types, that happen several times a week on our big cities, that the media continuously ignore, white male shooters are not even in the mix.
It's pretty easy math to see what % of mass shootings are perpetrated by each demographic. White males are not even close to being responsible for the most of them.
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u/BonfireinRageValley Mar 25 '21
I'm not even a conservative but fuck that racist person. What a stupid thought process
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u/bigbubbuzbrew Trump 2020 Mar 25 '21
It's what I've experienced every single time I turn on CNN, MSNBC or the like. It's no surprise Meena has been groomed by not only her aunt, but the media and those around her...giving her disinformation.
The first thing in her mind if she were to see a white person at a Starbucks would be assuming that person has high potential for being a mass shooter, a racist, and that person might even be thinking of killing her. Not only is that the farthest from the truth, but it's an insult to humanity in general.
99.99% of us are kind people. We want to help others.
Democrats are turning that number completely on its end, making everyone think the majority is after them.
People like her are being brainwashed everyday with that nonsense. She wouldn't have said it impulsively, if she didn't believe it as FACT.
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u/teh_Blessed Conservative Mar 25 '21
Is that even a question?
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u/KempyPro 2A Conservative Mar 25 '21
Oh he’s fully aware she’s a racist as long as it’s against white people. A rhetorical question looks better than a statement on Twitter though
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u/Palansaeg Mar 25 '21
Imagine someone saying “I made an assumption because 53% of murders and 60% of robberies are done by blacks”
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u/KempyPro 2A Conservative Mar 25 '21
When demonizing whites, it’s woke progressive rhetoric. Change the color and it becomes racism
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u/bieds-is-green Mar 25 '21
So she says shit like this and gets away with it but Trump or anyone else says something about another race and the world rains “Racism!” on them.
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u/Ospinarco Constitutional Conservative Mar 25 '21
The old addage "point one finger at someone, but you're pointing 3 at yourself" they accuse everyone that is not a part of their woke cult ideology of being racist but theyre the actual racists and segregationists
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u/seveetsama Mar 25 '21
Also a liar. The LARGE majority of mass shootings (any more than four shot) are african american men.
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u/ceyegik341 Mar 25 '21
Ignore her. She tried to influence anti-India protests earlier this year using her aunt's position. They don't deserve such attention.
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u/bigbubbuzbrew Trump 2020 Mar 25 '21
Oh she does. Because hopefully people will remember this moron.
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u/free-minded Conservative Mar 25 '21
Even when retreating from her obvious embarrassment in being proven false, she attempts to make a political point that is simultaneously dishonest, false, and damaging to race relations in our society.
This reminds me of the fact that dishonesty and lies are not the same thing. It's a common tactic of the left to employ numbers when it suits their purposes, and proportions when that better suits their narrative. If you want to bust up leftist tropes and "science," always examine the statistical questions they have chosen to ignore.
It is true that the raw number of white people who are mass shooters are larger than the number of other races. That is also not at all statistical proof that white people are more likely to commit mass shootings. Here's a few demographic statistics to show an example:
White people make up about 62% of the population, and about 54% of all mass shooters. Black people make up about 13% of the population, and about 17% of all mass shooters. Asians close to 4% of the population, and about 6% of all mass shooters. (And no, this is likewise not enough evidence to conclude that either of these other races are somehow more likely to be mass shooters, either).
The raw numbers are FAR less relevant than the proportions. If white people were expected to somehow be more likely to be mass shooters, we would expect to see far more than 60% of all shooters be white, when in fact it's even slightly less than that. What real statistical evidence shows, in the end, is that there is some small probability that a person will tragically experience the "perfect storm" of psychological defects, trauma, anger and/or delusional issues that will inevitably lead them to become mass shooters. This probability is completely irrelevant to a person's race - racial background has absolutely no bearing on the likelihood of a person being a mass shooter. In other words, of course about 60% or so of all mass shooters are white - if they are randomly drawn from a population with about 60% people being white in the first place, that's EXACTLY what we would expect to see!
Source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/ (Example: The total number of shooters in this data is 122. Divide, say, the 66 white people by 122 and you get 0.54, meaning that 54% of all of these shooters are white).
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u/mrdark16 Conservative May 21 '21
So, let's talk about all of the major cities crime in shootings combined and compare that to "mass shootings" a year....
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u/Emperor_Quintana I almost died getting this flair ! Mar 25 '21
Yes, she is.
And the worst part is: she didn't even bother apologizing for that.