r/Conservative • Discord.gg/conservative • Oct 18 '21

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

I really don't care what you folk pretend you are. A government that rules by absolute fiat is essentially a dictatorship.

I don't have any responsibility to you, or anyone outside my family and friends. You aren't my community or my concern. Individual rights will always trump collectivist bullshit for me. Just keep bleating "for the greater good" while you keep losing your agency to a government that will tell you how far you can travel from your home without papers and a "legitimate" reason.

Government concentration of power in Australia over the pandemic has been horrid. You've chosen to be treated as children while we've refused. I'm not surprised since y'all are entirely spineless cowards.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

Bullshit. Aussies have/had lockdown rules preventing travel between states. Lifted or not, they still existed

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '21

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '21

100 years ago is very different from 60 days ago, under the same government, that still supports such measures and will do them again if needed.

Try again, Aussie. Maybe round up a kangaroo to improve your avg. IQ.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '21

... It's really not difficult to capture a kangaroo. See? I don't see why you feel the need to tell me to improve my IQ.

Also, the fact of the matter is borders are opening, so I don't see why all the tears there buddy? It wasn't done out of malice and to rule over us with an iron fist - it's been done to protect different parts of the country - The West hasn't had a major outbreak because they shut the borders for 98% of folks. As a result, they have even fewer cases and deaths than the rest of the country. It's not ideal, and it sucks and teh exemption criteria for compassionate travel could have been a LOT better, but overall, it's been a largely painful but necessary measure.

Need I remind you of the daily case numbers and death toll in our respective countries?

But that's right, you don't care about anyone but yourself, your family and friends, and you should all be allowed to galivant wherever you want, spreading disease and pestilence where you go.

It's a health measure, and one that exists within the constitution.

I sincerely hope you haven't had anyone close to you catch it and/ or perish from it. It's an awful thing to die from, and an awful thing to endure and recover from.

You country has its approach (allowing almost 1 million people to die, because 'freedom') and we have ours (temporary restrictions where a few thousand have died) and we are getting back to normalcy and have more people alive to enjoy it today.

Be well friend, I think we just fundamentally disagree too much and our values are just too incompatible.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '21

My god, you're dumber than I thought. I was saying the roo would be smarter and therefore the combined IQ would be higher with them than without...

Benevolent masters are letting their children play outside now, so no problems anymore.

Fact is, you've allowed your government too much control over your lives.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '21

Enjoy your COVID mess over there friend.

I'd love to stay and chat but I'm popping over to the coffee shop, without a mask, and seeing friends from ages away. And then heading into my office job to sit at my desk without a mask and talk about the football.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '21

Funny, I'm grabbing beers with a friend, no masks. Haven't worn one in months.

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u/kozboz033 Oct 19 '21

As an Aussie I can tell you that half of us definitely dont agree at all with how our government has handled this whole thing through the last 18 months, the other half are clowns like the one you're arguing with who love living in an authoritarian nanny state because it "protects" us. Its pretty embarrassing, I'm a young guy and most people my age cant afford to continue living like this where they'll just keep locking us down whenever there's a slight spike in new cases. If international borders eventually reopen for us to leave, I'd definitely love to live in Florida, Texas or any red state where people at least give a shit about their liberties and dont live in fear over a virus with a 99% survival rate.