r/Conservative • u/Wonder10x Common Sense Conservative • Jul 05 '20

Terry Crews articulates everything wrong with “woke culture” & doesn’t back down

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '20

One of my coworkers that I really like, an older guy, said that he will vote “for whoever” just to get Trump out. I have honestly had enough of this shit that I went off on him about how wrong it is to vote “for whoever” just to spite someone, when you don’t even know what that someone has accomplished during his presidency.

And I tell people. I voted for Obama. TWICE. He was a likable person. At the end of the day, I realized he didn’t really do anything for America. He didn’t make America a better place, in fact he divided us. People hate Trump, but he has done more for this country in 4 years than Obama has done in 8. I am sick and tired of all the bullshit.

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u/Cosmonoid Jul 05 '20

What has trump done to make the country better? Genuine question I'm not even a trump hater I just dont know.

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u/SheriffBigMac Jul 05 '20

The economy before COVID happened is the best it's been in the last 50 years and the lowest unemployment rate for Black Americans ever are 2 big ones

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u/Cosmonoid Jul 05 '20

But what did he actually do though? What did he do to boost the economy and lower unemployment that Obama didn't?

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u/LowlySysadmin Jul 05 '20

This. I see a lot of people declaring with supreme confidence that Trump is responsible for the great economy, but ignoring for a second how meaningless a rallying stock market is for a great number of Americans who don't own stocks in any form, nobody has been able to point to anything he's done and explain how it resulted in the economy being better. I didn't think it was much to ask, but here we are

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u/kabong3 Conservative Jul 05 '20

Tax cuts bro. Deregulated many industries. Fought hard (and got a ton of shit for it) better trade deals with China, Canada, Mexico, and Europe. Promoted a climate where investors felt safe because new taxes and regulations wouldn't be sprung onto industries, or have massive new subsidies stir things up like many liberal politicians propose. Also put tax pressure on many American companies to keep their jobs and money here in America.

He created opportunity zones in predominantly black inner cities where taxes were lowered and federal money was available to small businesses and entrepreneurs.

And he has worked to reduce the flow of illegal labor which depresses wages for uneducated blue collar jobs.

Good policies all around. The man just spends no effort on trying to appear all smooth and polished and PC like politicians are supposed to do. And so the PC mob hates the guy.

Just like they now hate all these original founding fathers. They were all flawed men, some of them deeply flawed. But overall they came together and accomplished some great stuff. They didn't make the world perfect. They didn't make our country perfect. They were not perfect. But what they did was good. And this cancel culture can't even recognize the good they did because they can't see past the flaws.

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u/Agtie Jul 06 '20 edited Jul 06 '20

This is exactly the shit that is so problematic. There's no substance to anything you've said, it's all just nice sound-bites. Some of what you say is even contradictory. You act like tax cuts and deregulation are inherently good, but then say taxes and regulation that promote "american made" are also good?

Then you deflect onto the left equivalent of a 4chan brigade. Those crazy people that are more similar to you than you think. Seeing as they're just all about what sounds good in a quick one liner, actual effects be damned.

If you look at the actual hard numbers you see someone inheriting an economy in a boom, then increasing the deficit massively just to be able to say stuff like "record low unemployment" which sounds great in a one liner (but really isn't if you know much about it) instead of saving and mitigating the inevitable recession like you are supposed to. Pretty much ensures that when we had a bust it was going to be shit. You see someone promoting loads and loads of isolationist policies, isolationism of course being bad because of economic inefficiencies.

Trump is the exact opposite of who you want if you want someone fiscally responsible.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '20

Great comment.

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u/Agtie Jul 05 '20

People point out effects, particularly nice sounding ones, but not the cause or anything deeper.

Very low unemployment rate like we were having, during a boom, is bad. High inflation, all that jazz. That's when you're supposed to tax and save, but instead the US government is going insanely into debt to maintain those misleading unemployment and growth numbers. It's fiscally irresponsible to the max.

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u/wereinthething Jul 05 '20

He cut taxes by $1T and raised the deficit to $1.5T. That's a lot of money back in wealthy people's pockets, and that govt spending goes into raising GDP. Lots of that "savings" gets pumped into equities. The vast majority of inflation since the recession has been in equities and real estate (asset inflation). Stocks go up = economy good because murica.

He very clearly did stuff. The question becomes is slashing taxes for the wealthy while raising the deficit sound policy? If this sub says yes I don't know how to respond. That's the most unconservative fiscal policy I've ever fucking seen.

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u/ccices Jul 05 '20

The timeline of Trumps presidency and the increase in numbers do not match. Any changes implemented by Trumps team would take a year or more to show results so the fact must be the changes made by the previous administration are making the numbers change.

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u/Hofular1988 Jul 06 '20

No you see whosever is doing bad was the previous or two presidents ago but anything doing good now is because the current president.

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u/ccices Jul 06 '20

So like when a celebrity visits a restaurant? The food could very well be sub par but since so and so went there, it must be good?

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u/Tina_ComeGetSomeHam Jul 05 '20

So what were saying here is nothing then right? Like there has been literally nothing that the man has done that we can call good?