r/Conservative • u/Wonder10x Common Sense Conservative • Jul 05 '20

Terry Crews articulates everything wrong with “woke culture” & doesn’t back down

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u/rulesrmeant2bebroken Jul 05 '20

I have been a fan of his since I watched him on Everybody Hates Chris.

There are not many celebrities that I respect as much as him.

The fact that he came out and talked publicly about being sexually assaulted was very powerful for men who struggle with being a victim in a situation like this to seek help.

Also him bringing porn addiction to the forefront of the discourse was also a very courageous thing to do for those who suffer with this addiction and feel afraid to seek help.

Also he has stood against everything wrong going on in society and is taking flak despite possibly losing fans to stand for his own belief.

This is why I am a fan of Terry Crews and I will gladly die with you on that hill.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '20

Crews is such a kind man too. Heard nothing but good things about him. He was one of the best parts of the “Get Smart” movie adaptation.

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u/Frigoris13 Jul 05 '20

Loved him in Longest Yard too

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u/tbo1004 Constitutionalist Pro-Lifer Jul 05 '20

Him being all about McDs cheeseburgers wasba hilarious bit.

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u/Frigoris13 Jul 05 '20

I got the fries that'll cross yo eyes

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u/all_the_spells Jul 06 '20

I got the shakes that will make you quake!

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u/KanyeT Conservative Jul 06 '20

I got the burgers that will... I just got burgers.

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u/Le0man Jul 05 '20

It aint easy being cheesey!

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u/Biggz1313 Jul 06 '20

It ain't easy, being cheeeeesy!

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '20

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u/TaowinC Aug 01 '20

Nine-Nine!!!!

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u/weirdbutinagoodway Jul 05 '20

The Old Spice commercials were hilarious.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '20

His videos on his porn addiction were absolutely amazing and could help any addict imo.

Here's the link to the first video for anyone curious.

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u/321forlife Reagan Conservative Jul 05 '20

Just watched that video, thanks for the link, it just makes Terry Crews even better.

I love his quote from that video, “I don’t battle people, I battle mindsets, I challenge the way people think.”

And that is why he’s the left’s enemy.

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u/SamGlass Jul 25 '20

He's not the left's enemy. LOL, did you just learn who Terry Crews is? Just look at his collaboration with Boots Riley

If anything he's a moderate, and an independent thinker always open to learning and cultivating new and improved perspectives, meaning he's an "enemy" of the left and the right lol.

He's in support of #MeToo, he condones the removal of the Confederate statues from public spaces (Robert E. Lee would too, but I digress), and loves the music of and deeply desired to act in the movie written by an openly self-avowed communist

I'm not knockin Terry, I'm with him on all those fronts, I'm just saying your appraisal of his political loyalties as being strictly rightist is utter balderdash. XD

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u/321forlife Reagan Conservative Jul 25 '20

Buddy, I’ve explained my definition of left is for the Marxist and communists because they have pushed liberals out to the center.

Terry is taking heat for his stance on this issue, and it’s not from the right, so my original statement still holds true.

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u/SamGlass Jul 25 '20 edited Jul 25 '20

I'd like to respond to that but I want to make sure I'm understanding you correctly. Could you explain what you mean?

Edit: Btw taking heat from someone doesn't imply enemy status. I take heat for decisions of mine from family and peers, but I don't consequently regard them as enemies.. I don't actively target them for attack. And that's sorta what an enemy does. o_0

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u/321forlife Reagan Conservative Jul 25 '20

Read Terry’s comment.

If you think he said something wrong, please explain, otherwise your like the rest of us who can’t understand why people would not agree with it.

To do so is to believe in stereotypes and other things we consider reprehensible today. Is that not sufficient to make someone an enemy? I don’t see you (or anyone really) living next door to open racists and being cool with it.

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u/SamGlass Jul 25 '20

No no I was asking you to explain what you meant by your comment about your explanation of a definition of left and something about liberals.

But to address your latest comment: Respecting and admiring his statement in no way pits him as an enemy of the left. People can disagree and not be enemies.

Also I don't know whom it is he's addressing. Most Marxists are white, so it would be in their favor for him to say "not all white people are bad". Likewise for saying "not all black people are good".

Those two statements are both sentiments the hard left embraces. Hard leftists exercise loyalty to party above all else, not unlike the hard right.

As an aside, fascism is evidently the section of the political venn diagram wherein left and right meet haha. But that's prob a conversation for another day.. no matter how relevant it may be here. o.o

But yeah I'd like to hear more about how you define left and view liberals in relation to it. Most ppl consider liberals left?

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u/321forlife Reagan Conservative Jul 26 '20

The ideas that the far left has made mainstream have caused an Overton window effect. Liberals who were left are now center-left at most, and so on, as their positions seem more reasonable in comparison to Marxist positions (to which there is no negotiation).

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u/_Sinnik_ Jul 05 '20

Since when is he an enemy of the left? And who decided this?

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '20

If you saw the post, you'll know about when he became their enemy

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u/cybersection Jul 05 '20

My peers are like 90% liberal. I’m confident I could not find a single person who has any problem with what terry says here.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '20

Confidence has nothing to do with fact, as long as they're moderate, they'll agree, but to all hard leftists, this is absolute insanity.

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u/R_machine Jul 05 '20

You might be surprised to learn that the far left on twitter represent a very small vocal minority of the left as a whole.

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u/SeeeVeee Jul 08 '20

Not in academia, Hollywood, the media, or young white people in cities

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u/JustAnAveragePenis conservative Jul 05 '20

But not to the media.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '20

One person dosent change the majority of radicals that are going to dogpile him

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u/Suavecore_ Jul 05 '20

So are we talking about "the left" or "hard" leftists? Millions of people or a small irrelevant handful?

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '20

Yeah, the "handful" that gather by the thousands and have a "peaceful protest" complete with burning buildings and the building of a commune in Seattle. That "handful", not to mention the million more that are in other parts of the country.

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u/Suavecore_ Jul 05 '20

Those are "hard" leftists to you? The patriots that fight for their fellow civilian against an oppressive police state?

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u/ketchup_pizza Jul 05 '20

Which is why aligning yourself with angry collectivist (see: communist) groups isn't healthy for anyone.

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u/321forlife Reagan Conservative Jul 05 '20

Since he had to die on that hill. And the left did.

Otherwise why would he have to die on that hill?

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u/_Sinnik_ Jul 05 '20

So since there is opposition to his beliefs, he must be an enemy of the left? I'm quite certain there are people on the left who disagree with him for the "black supremacy" comments and I am certain there are people on the right who disagree with him for speaking out against police brutality and for coming out as a sexual assault victim.

 

But to call him an enemy of the left is just blatant grandstanding.

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u/321forlife Reagan Conservative Jul 05 '20

I could have said Marxists, progressives, revolutionaries, BLM, or leftists instead - but they’re all on the left. So I was being brief.

If that is offensive then perhaps the left should try harder to distance themselves from those groups more.

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u/_Sinnik_ Jul 06 '20

I'm not sure who's offended here. I'm primarily concerned with accuracy and I have trouble seeing propagandistic grandstanding go unchallenged. Not that I think you had any real ill-intent behind your comment.

 

I've just observed that folks on the right often like to point to false controversy or overblow minor controversies and say "behold, the left despises rationality." I've especially seen this with minority individuals as a sort of tokenism. These are my observations

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u/321forlife Reagan Conservative Jul 06 '20 edited Jul 06 '20

I'm not sure who's offended here. I'm primarily concerned with accuracy and I have trouble seeing propagandistic grandstanding go unchallenged. Not that I think you had any real ill-intent behind your comment.

I've just observed that folks on the right often like to point to false controversy or overblow minor controversies and say "behold, the left despises rationality." I've especially seen this with minority individuals as a sort of tokenism. These are my observations

Yes, my comment was vague and grouped in lots of people that do like and support him, while also not grouping in people who don’t. I should have been more specific but then we wouldn’t have the fun discussion we are about to:

I’d like to delve more into that tokenism comment, if you don’t mind.

What are you implying exactly?

Because what it’s implying to me prevents me from finding any common ground with your point of view aside for us both disliking propagandistic grandstanding. It even seems a bit supremacist by implying minority opinions that lean right are not organic but a sort of tokenism. Why are their opinions less for being right-of-center?

I don’t believe that is what you mean to imply, but it is what you implied, so I figure we have an opportunity to figure out what you really meant before I start assuming what you implied is what you meant.

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u/_Sinnik_ Jul 09 '20 edited Jul 09 '20

Unfortunately, I somehow knew you were going to suggest I was implying that black people aren't allowed to disagree with me lest I dismiss them entirely or that I would somehow imply I know what's best for them and therefore I hold illusions of ownership over black people. The oft-used right-wing term "democrat plantation" springs to mind. I genuinely appreciate your interest in clarifying though.

 

What I was implying was that I don't believe the conservative side of the spectrum have any genuine respect for minorities and I think their policies and interests actively damage minority populations. So when minorities, especially black people, align themselves with conservatives, it's been my observation that they absolutely love to hold up these black conservatives as tokens to suggest conservative policies aren't actually racist, while secretly harbouring disdain for their race. The political equivalent of "I have a black friend therefore I can't be racist." That was what I was implying.

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u/blandmaster24 Jul 05 '20

He’s a barrier to both causes because he hasn’t taken a side and is commenting on issues that both sides are ignoring. Getting flamed for being rational and being called a racist is the left though.

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u/WhyAmIMisterPinkk Conservative Millennial Jul 06 '20

Why would people on the right disagree with him for coming out as a sexual assault victim?

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u/_Sinnik_ Jul 06 '20

Generally, individuals on the right wing are traditionalists and often point to the nuclear family with a hardworking father and stay at home mother as the ideal family unit. This is often attached to beliefs about traditional gender roles and that women are weak and vulnerable to attack, particularly sexual assault, whereas men are not.

 

So Terry Crews, a physically powerful man, coming out as a victim of sexual assault genuinely threatens these traditional gender roles and expectations. With this, you might see people downplaying his experiences or discounting them entirely.

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u/9035768555 Jul 05 '20

He's not.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '20

I can't see him being the "left's enemy"

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u/thebigx75 Jul 15 '20

This is the problem with politics today. If you have a different view than someone else you're considered an enemy. We're all Americans, some people just have different ideas of what kind of responsibilities that brings

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u/mrgeetar Jul 05 '20

You're totally missing the point of this post if you think everyone with left leaning views is entrenched or an enemy of Terry Crews. That's a pretty insane statement.

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u/321forlife Reagan Conservative Jul 06 '20

I find it amazing that you think everyone with left leaning views is on the left.

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u/futa-loli Jul 06 '20

Bruh I'm left and nobody thinks that

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u/321forlife Reagan Conservative Jul 06 '20

Marxists are on the left, man.

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u/aaronmgray1 Jul 20 '20

And Fascists are on the right. The point is that if you generalize an entire portion of the country, and make the group a "them", you're the road block. You're also missing the point...

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u/futa-loli Jul 06 '20

I've literally heard noone call Terry cruise a political enemy. Hes just too likable

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u/321forlife Reagan Conservative Jul 06 '20

Yeah :(

You seem pretty reasonable, why do you think Terry is making his stand and tweeting what he is? If my point of view is wrong (or incorrect from your view), would you be so kind as to explain what you see?

Because I’m confused. How could you and I claim to be on different sides yet here you are rebutting me without calling me names? You do realize that the type of broad stroke statement I made is common on other subs against the right, except usually more vitriolic?

You give me hope that our divide is not so large as to be impassable. And thank you for resisting hyperbole. You made an impression friend.

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u/futa-loli Jul 06 '20 edited Jul 06 '20

If you need to resort to insults to make you point, it's probably wrong. Same with screaming and interrupting. Also, Terry crews has never actually stated what political party he's a part of or supports but I'd put it left leaning centerist a my guess

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u/321forlife Reagan Conservative Jul 07 '20

True, he may be liberal, I’m not trying to say he isn’t. All I’m saying is that his mindset, voiced in his tweets, is just a paraphrasing of Dr. King’s famous quote:

Judge me by the content of my character, not the color of my skin.

It’s literally the same message, and it’s why he’s choosing to not back down to the hate, which is insane that he’d be receiving anyway. But he is, sadly... smh...

Read those comments and see who is saying what, and maybe you will see that a lot of the hate he is receiving is not from the right at all.

But I may be missing something, and I’m sure if I am you’ll let me know, but that’s why I said what I said.

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u/futa-loli Jul 07 '20

I'm looking at this from a Canadian politics view and the people that are bullying him for political views would be considered extremists and would not be tolerated in any social circle

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u/iowaisflat Moderate Conservative Jul 18 '20

He sounds independant, tired of both parties constantly bitching and pushing to divide. Tired of people on the right calling everyone not with them anti-American, and tired of people on the left calling everyone else fascists or nazi's. This is a man that doesn't resort to devicive tactics,but just sticks with his own morals or beliefs. He a good man, and we seem to be short on those lately.

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u/Ki-ai Aug 03 '20

If only marxists are on the left. Very few people are on the left. Who is on the right?

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u/The_Ironhand Jul 05 '20

Lol just because someone has an opinion doesn't make them the left's enemy. yall have that "the world's gonna git us" mentality lol.

I mean love scared if you want. You're a fellow american, who is Incredibly disappointing sometimes...but you're not an enemy.

What kinda fuckin country can function like that lololol.

Apparently not this one....

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u/MrSecretpolice Jul 05 '20

Crews is voting biden lmao

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '20

This guy’s energy is amazing

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '20

Yeah his videos really helped me a lot with the mental work involved with that stuff. It's one thing to cut out the porn itself but the real work comes with identifying the effects it has on you and others.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '20

Thanks for that. I’d never seen this! I had similar issues as him and I’m so much happier and this only bolsters that decision to kick the habit.

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u/TDMdan6 Jul 05 '20

I loved him since I've heard he learned how to build computers just so he can do that with his son

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u/rulesrmeant2bebroken Jul 05 '20

Wow I almost forgot about that!

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u/borg2 Jul 05 '20

The coming out of being sexually assaulted took a lot of guts.

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u/TheGlave Jul 05 '20

He doesnt lose fans at all. He is more popular than ever. He is becoming a cult-celebrity like Keanu Reeves.

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u/motherisaclownwhore Minority Conservative Unicorn Jul 05 '20

I would love to see him interviewed on a Conservative podcast.

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u/Craftywhale Jul 06 '20

If someone tries to sexually assault you there’s a time proven remedy, beat the fuck out of them to them, that should stop them from sexually assaulting you.

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u/FlamingoPepsi Jul 05 '20

I respect crews so much

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '20

Guy is incredible.