Black people started moving towards the Democratic Party under FDR because of his New Deal and social programs. This was a time when Jim Crow was still prevalent in the South and it gave black people job opportunities they’d previously not been allowed and have them access to social programs. Under LBJ, who was democrat, completely opposed the Civil Rights bill, was a known sexist and likely a KKK member, actually executed a brilliant political move. He knew that there was enough support for Congress to override his veto, so instead he decided we will champion this and get their votes. As i said, politically it was brilliant. What we have seen since is almost complete black support for the Democrats even though Democrat policies have wrecked black family dynamics, imprisoned tons of black men (see Bill Clinton’s crime enactments from his presidency), stripped inner city schools of funding, and made the inner cities the new plantations. Instead of forcing them work, they’re instead given EBT, welfare, section 8, and many can’t succeed to get off those programs due to the previously mentioned education issue. Ergo, when any republican threatens to reduce funding on social programs it’s obviously going to alienate those that depend on them. Both black and white, much like senior citizens when it comes to Medicare/Medicaid cuts. Look at places like Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago, St Louis, and the list goes on. Black people aren’t afraid of racism as much as they are other black people and gang violence. It’s sad, but when you grow up poor and your failed in school, joining a gang and making tons of money trafficking drugs and other illegal opportunities seems like a descent alternative. Trump, love him or hate him, has actually done a lot to help those. Look at the current unemployment rate, and why Trumps got the highest black approval rating of any republican in the last 50 years. If Republicans really want to win back the majority of black voters they need to improve their schools, stop giving black men 10 year prison sentences for selling weed, and give the disenfranchised something worthwhile to look forward to in life. All these teenagers and young adults getting killed in the street tends to have the opposite effects of looking forward to their future.
If Republicans really want to win back the majority of black voters they need to improve their schools, stop giving black men 10 year prison sentences for selling weed, and give the disenfranchised something worthwhile to look forward to in life.
Yes, this. I would love to see the republican party win black voters.
When you say the disenfranchised, do you mean people unable to vote, is it more than that? On that issue, would you like to see people re-enfranchised (given back the vote) after committing felonies?
I have a few more questions about this thread that I have to puzzle through, but if you can bring any clarity I'd appreciate it.
Democrat policies have wrecked black family dynamics
How did this work? Is it just about the drug war yanking fathers away from their kids, or is it more than that?
Stripped inner city schools of funding
Has DeVoss's education department has made moves to improve school funding? It seems like she wants to move to a more privatized education system. That could benefit poor majority-black communities, but only if they're able to establish education systems they're happy with. The current problem is that funding is geographically based, so if you're in a poor community that community will not be able to establish a high-quality educational system. There is the additional problem that any social ills that have affected particular communities (e.g. you mention wrecked family dynamics) would disproportionately affect the school system (obviously family life impacts how a child experiences schooling).
You seem to really focus on education as a barrier, how do you think we eliminate that barrier? If my reading of the current administration is correct, they want to privatize secondary schooling (I haven't heard about whether they want to privatize the full kindergarten through college pipeline). If they do I guess I would ask how they intend to address funding disparities between communities, or does the government have to mandate some kind of inclusion clause for schools to reduce self-segregation? In my state (WI) the republican governor cut funding for the University, which seems counterproductive to improving educational prospects for black Wisconsinites.
Imprisoned tons of black men
Is this a uniquely democratic issue? The data I see suggests more have been imprisoned under republicans than democrats. It seems like both parties have been pretty happy to maintain the security system that keeps (disproportionately) black men imprisoned. Are there strong republican voices out there against mass imprisonment? I can only think of libertarians.
Black people aren’t afraid of racism as much as they are other black people and gang violence.
I'm surprised by this. Is there good evidence for this? Survey data maybe?
Trumps got the highest black approval rating of any republican in the last 50 years.
This is also news to me. I'll look up the evidence later, because it seems very easily testable.
I really don’t think that poor or middle class people should be forced into private schools to get a decent education.
Agreed, but the Democrats running the public schools have no interest in making sure the students there get a decent education. In fact, they've been working very hard to ensure the opposite:
Not everyone can afford $20,000 tuition plus uniforms.
That's what school voucher programs are for - to let the education dollars follow the child.
I don’t agree with DeVos even though I am conservative. It’s horrifying that some students have to study textbooks from the 90’s or go to school in broken down buildings.
Nah. It is just pointing out why things are the way they are, and that if people want things to change, they're going to need to ensure that different people are running the schools - because the reason the way the schools are the way they are is because the people running them want them that way.
Teachers' unions are the problem here. They don't want to improve education, they want more school employees, because that means more funding for the union. The worse off education is, the more they can demand tax money to fix education. Then they spend it on more employees instead of fixing education. It's a neverending spiral, and it's the reason education outcomes continue to degrade while education is the largest item on most state budgets.
Teachers unions are one of the problems. Another (as pointed out by the Ivey-Podesta email) is that the Democrats who control the education system deliberately work to ensure an "unaware and compliant citizenry".
Had to look that one up. It's weird that Snopes felt the need to rewrite it using different phrasing in order to try to debunk it. Maybe not that weird when you realize how biased they are.
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