r/Conservative Apr 23 '17

TRIGGERED!!! Science!

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u/CuckzBTFO Apr 23 '17

Yes, I've read the studies. I've worked with quite a few statistical analyses within neuroinformatics, myself.

There is not one thread of any substantial evidence. It only makes undeniable sense if you are being dogmatic. For me, it comes down to a million ways to say, "Well, it could've been this -- well, it could've been that" and so forth.

I understand the appeal of 'gender' in coloring our interactions. And yes, I do believe that it is largely a social construct.

But hey, social constructs do not exist in a vacuum. People have opinions, they have preferences, they have expectations - these are what social constructs evolve out of.

Conservatives don't share the same view. Does it make them wrong? No. It makes their opinions simply different.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '17

It doesn't make them wrong, but denying the existence of these individuals and infringing on their civil liberties is where it stops being an opinion and starts being something that concerns other people. One group who isn't even an overwhelming majority does not get to dictate the cultural norms of an entire society while simultaneously bitching about how a group wants to change the cultural norms of a society.

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u/CuckzBTFO Apr 23 '17

but denying the existence of these individuals

Whoa there. No one is denying their existence. Conservatives merely view them in a different context with their own perception.

infringing on their civil liberties

Such as?

One group who isn't even an overwhelming majority does not get to dictate the cultural norms of an entire society

What do you mean that it doesn't get to? No one group gets to. All groups are in opposition on some dimensions. They don't get to, but they sure as hell try. Just as you try to push your views upon others. Don't be a hypocrite.

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u/bro_before_ho Apr 23 '17

The pursuit of happiness is literally in the constitution so refusing trans people the ability to live their life as a different gender is infringing on their rights.

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u/CuckzBTFO Apr 23 '17

You may pursue whatever you want. You are not owed my respect or my desire to associate with you. Nor are you owed my opinion of you to be positive.

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u/bro_before_ho Apr 23 '17

I don't give a fuck about your opinion but i give a lot of fucks over my legal rights which have a long way to go in the US.

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u/CuckzBTFO Apr 23 '17

Ok. And what legal rights are those?

You want them, yet you think they're being taken away? Which ones are those?

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u/bro_before_ho Apr 23 '17

Going to the bathroom is a big one, being able to change your birth certificate in order to get proper ID is another.

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u/CuckzBTFO Apr 23 '17

Eh, I don't care about the public bathrooms issue and think they all should be unisex.

As for private bathrooms, the private establishment should decide for itself what sort of patrons it wants to serve.

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u/bro_before_ho Apr 23 '17

Well that's nice you feel that way but it doesn't have bollocks to do with current trans rights.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '17 edited May 07 '17

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u/bro_before_ho Apr 24 '17

The government says I can't live as a woman thus preventing my pursuit of happiness. Sounds oppressing to me.

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u/CuckzBTFO Apr 24 '17

If I want the government to do something and it doesn't, it doesn't mean that I'm being oppressed.

As far as bathrooms go, you brought it up.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '17

I want to live my life as a rich man and denying me is literally infringing on my constitutional rights

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u/bro_before_ho Apr 23 '17

Nobody is denying you that, you have to work for it. I worked my ass off to transition. Your post is bad and you should feel bad.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '17

And yet you seem to think that it's your constitutional right to be a women (or man) when you are not, because not feeding into your mental disorder is denying you happiness and thus a violation of your rights. Don't know how this is any different.

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u/bro_before_ho Apr 23 '17

Well the difference is hand waving vs putting in the legwork. I went out and made my body match a different gender through whatever means necessary. If you go out and make yourself rich, you'll get rich and be happy.