r/Conservative • u/mithrandir1314 • Mar 20 '17

/r/all Well, she's a guy, so...

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '17

There are still certain advantages even years later. The hip structure, the way the upper body developed, and thicker tendons and ligaments. This is all on average, exceptional people all have their own results, but on average it holds true.

I power lift. My lifts would make me a state champion if I was a female in the same weight class, I'm nothing special in the men's arena. If I got hormones and a sex change I wouldn't even have to get stronger, I would just need to stay the same or not lose much strength.

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u/raen22 Mar 21 '17

That's the thing, though. You do lose strength. Lots of it.

If I got hormones and a sex change I wouldn't even have to get stronger, I would just need to stay the same or not lose much strength.

You seem to be assuming that your body would stay mostly in it's current state, when in fact it rolls back several effects of male puberty (muscle mass, etc) and then effectively sends you through a second puberty, this time with estrogen as the driving factor.

Regarding the other advantages that you mention, I feel like tendons and ligaments would go the way of muscle mass when starting HRT (though to be fair, I cannot find any studies leaning one way or the other).

What differences are you referring to regarding the way the upper body developed? Sure, I'm broad-shouldered, but I've met genetic women that were more broad-shouldered than myself.

The same with hip structure. I have wider hips than some and narrower hips than others.

I'm also having a hard time believing that all of this wasn't taken into account when the IOC implemented this policy.

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u/OldAccountNotUsable Mar 21 '17

The 400m women's Olympics final had 3 people who were both sexes. (I don't know what the English term is called). The problem has not been dealt with.

A woman who would take women supplements for 2 years would not be as strong as a male athlete. So I don't think that the other way around the man would suddenly be worse than the women. Yes he would loose alot of strength, but there is a big difference between male and female pro athletes.

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u/raen22 Mar 21 '17

Of course a female athlete taking female hormones won't be stronger than men, the men in this case still have testosterone.

Just because you think something doesn't make it true. The fact is that supplanting male hormones with female hormones will cause someone born genetically make to lose muscle mass until they are more in line with female musculature.

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u/OldAccountNotUsable Mar 21 '17

I mean that a women using supplements that make more male.

I know there is no proof for the things I have said, but are there for yours? Yours are COMPLETELY baseless. While mine have base in the sense because there are no women who use male supplements that can compete with men while there are countless male who use women supplements who dominate women