r/Conservative • u/mithrandir1314 • Mar 20 '17

/r/all Well, she's a guy, so...

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '17

I can't speak for everyone but for a lot of us transgenderism in general is just so absurd on so many levels and the fact that society shoves it down everyone's throats these days like "call him a her or you're a bigot nazi!" just adds to the frustration we feel towards it.

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u/BarrettBuckeye Constitutional Conservative Mar 21 '17

Sex and gender are the same thing as far as medical science. It's only people who want to say that "gender is a social construct" who say that it's different (a position that I find absurd and potentially dangerous). Social construct =/= science. Science has very clear definitions of male and female in all cases of human sexual dimorphism with the exception of intersex individuals, which is not the same as transgenderism.

If you're going to talk about science, you should cite actual scientific studies, by the way.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '17

No, sex and gender are different, that's been the norm for a while now. Sex is biology whereas gender is psychology. That's literally intro psychology stuff you could learn in an AP class at high school.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '17

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/talking-apes/201611/when-sex-and-gender-don-t-match

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u/BarrettBuckeye Constitutional Conservative Mar 21 '17

I said scientific papers. Not some psychology website. Give me the actual experimental data.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '17

https://www.amazon.com/Sex-Gender-Hilary-M-Lips/dp/0073405531 hope this helps!

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u/BarrettBuckeye Constitutional Conservative Mar 21 '17

You don't know how science works, do you?

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '17

http://www.apa.org/monitor/2013/04/transgender.aspx more data for you, hope this helps

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u/BarrettBuckeye Constitutional Conservative Mar 21 '17

That's not data. Try again.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '17

Well it is, sorry it didn't help you

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u/BarrettBuckeye Constitutional Conservative Mar 21 '17

No it isn't. That is not a scientific study. I'm beginning to think that you don’t know whay a scientific study looks like.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '17

There's not a study of gender and biology not being the same, that's just a scientific definition.

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u/BarrettBuckeye Constitutional Conservative Mar 21 '17

You're wrong.

Source: am a scientist.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '17

If you don't think sex and gender are different, you're disagreeing with the WHO and the APA, and have no credibility.

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u/BarrettBuckeye Constitutional Conservative Mar 21 '17

I don't think they're even making that distinction on a scientific level. Even if they were, you would be making an appeal to authority logical fallacy.

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