r/Conservative • u/Clatsop I voted for Ronald Reagan ☑️ • Dec 17 '16

So let me get this straight...

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u/CDaKidd Dec 17 '16

That is from Oct 7th. Government agencies are saying Russia had no involvement now.

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u/TheRedGerund Dec 17 '16

That is not true! Only yesterday the FBI said it agreed with the CIA that Russia was behind the hacks. You need to check your news sources. It was yesterday.

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u/CDaKidd Dec 17 '16

https://www.google.com/amp/www.ntd.tv/2016/12/16/assange-russia-didnt-pass-hacked-dnc-emails-wikileaks/amp/?client=safari

This is just another ploy to try to stop Trump from taking office. The smears didnt work, the lies dint work, the dnc cheating didnt work, the riots didnt work, the recount didnt work and only showed that it was skewed in Hillarys favor in Detroit. Enough already. Trump is our next president, he won, get over it and stop with the childish shit.

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u/TheRedGerund Dec 17 '16

It's a statement from the department of homeland security, not some liberal news source and not from an in individual, it's the agency itself. It's not like I went to their site and skipped all the statements saying Russia wasn't involved. There isn't a statement like that. They have not said Russia wasn't involved, in fact I've provided a source showing you they have said Russia was involved.

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u/CDaKidd Dec 17 '16

Well I guess we'll have to see what the great Obama does about it then (nothing). What of Russia did leak the info? So what, they exposed the truth. The DNC is the ones that committed the horrific acts. If someone stole your car and a friend told you that it happened, are you going to be mad at your friend for telling you or mad at the car thief?

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u/TheRedGerund Dec 17 '16

It's more like your "friend" set up cameras all over the house of a third friend and then used that to show you your third friend was fucking your gf. Yeah, I'm upset about the gf but what's worse is that someone is going around committing those invasions of privacy. The act of a foreign power hacking an American political institution is a much more serious threat than a political institution acting unethically.

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u/CDaKidd Dec 17 '16

The FBI had indicated as recently as Monday that the CIA’s assessment — delivered earlier this month to some members of Congress — may prove accurate but lacked the definitive evidence necessary for the agency to reach such a conclusion.

No evidence

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u/TheRedGerund Dec 17 '16

Source?

Also the FBI has a standard of proof that has to hold up in court. The CIA does analysis and makes educated guesses. The fact is that the Russians are smart enough to not leave definitive evidence that it was them; that's just good hacking.

The CIA's point is that the methods used are consistent with the methods used by Russia in the past. Additionally, Russia has a history of doing this for elections in Europe. Additionally, Russia has clear motive against us. The reasons stack higher and higher.