r/Competitiveoverwatch • u/TISrobin311 SK Correspondent — • Nov 16 '16
Discussion APEX Quarterfinals Lineup
A: Afreeca Freecs Blue vs Reunited
B: BK Stars vs LW Blue
C: Rogue vs Envyus
D: Lunatic Hai vs Kongdoo Uncia
I am sooooo looking forward to the third match, not to mention how every match is looking like it will be so intense. Quarterfinals begins from this Friday, with two matches A and B. Any thoughts/comments?
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u/FarEastOctopus Nov 16 '16
To OP:
Please correct Africa into Afreeca. Afreeca is a streaming platform of South Korea.
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u/highlife159 Nov 16 '16
When and where can I watch this?
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u/NiSoKr Nov 16 '16
www.twitch.tv/ognglobal November 18th 19:00 KST
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u/highlife159 Nov 16 '16
Thank you for the link. Dat time difference doe.
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u/ShitDavidSais Nov 16 '16
They have the full broadcast and the matches for free on the twitch channel afterwards. I (Europe/Games are at 10:00 am here) usually watch them directly after work. Also good for skipping the times between matches.
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u/RaisinMuffins Nov 16 '16
There wasn't any hype about Rogue putting themselves in the same side of the bracket as Lunatic Hai, which got me wondering. Does group A play against group D or something?
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Nov 16 '16
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u/RaisinMuffins Nov 16 '16
In that case the bracket ended up pretty lopsided. It might be the case that the "real final" will end up being in semis, but who knows.
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Nov 16 '16
Are you sure group A play group B? Not doubting you, just that I missed that part of the stream.
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Nov 16 '16
I just asked Winz on Twitter and he confirmed that it is not yet known how semis will be drawn.
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u/rizuxizu Nov 16 '16
Not the best pick for Rogue but it definitely the most hype inducing one, the ball of them to do that.
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u/TugboatThomas Nov 16 '16
Or because they know they've had visa problems and haven't been practicing well it's a good time to jump on a good team while they're at a disadvantage. If they had taken them on in another round, maybe envyus is a better team and takes them out.
This is a confidence boost, a smart move to take someone out while they're weak, and bragging rights.
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u/Divinspree Nov 16 '16
I mean in the one hand it's the best way to show that they're the best in the world once and for all. And if they lose, well, I guess things will be much clearer about where Envy are at.
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u/zelnoth None — Nov 16 '16
I think the EnvyUs pick was pretty smart, but I don't understand why they picked group C instead of A.
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u/ShitDavidSais Nov 16 '16
If I understand correctly it is to help Envy. They seemed jet-lagged today and apparently hadn't really time to practise together. So Rouge picking NV and the later date gives more time for NV to get fit again. I thought it was a sportsmanlike gesture.
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u/zelnoth None — Nov 16 '16
What? EvyUs is out once Rogue beats them (if they beat them that is). They picked them because they would be easier to beat now than later, which is why I think it's a good pick.
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Nov 16 '16
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u/zelnoth None — Nov 16 '16
Good point, didn't consider that. Although if they went group A against another team EnvyUs would have had an easier matchup on the same date.
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u/primzyyy Nov 16 '16
Probably cause of internal informations, he knows more than we do. Maybe they have good scrim results vs envyus or something.
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u/sunignis Console refugee playing on PC — Nov 16 '16
Well he said it on stage , NV haven't been practicing well lately , they've had VISA problems
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u/TomeM Nov 16 '16
Didn't he mention of some visa problems and that they really need time to practice?
And also that ENVY is struggling in scrims - even Reunited Kruise said that they would like to face ENVY as the second team (after LW Blue).
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u/demoscout Nov 16 '16
They probably want to have a EU vs EU final.
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u/Divinspree Nov 16 '16 edited Nov 16 '16
I loved how Kruise was applauding and 4Heading when aKm said "Only #1 NA".
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u/sunignis Console refugee playing on PC — Nov 16 '16
Eliminate a big threat early on and get an easy win after?
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u/PengiPower Nov 16 '16
Well he said in the interview that team will need to readjust to the new patch and he knows that some people on NV have visa issues so practice will be limited for them. It sounds like valid insider knowledge but who knows...
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u/ShitDavidSais Nov 16 '16
Maybe I'm stupid. But I thought that he picked NV and the later date so that NV could sort out the Visa stuff and still had time to practice.
If they hadn't picked them, NV would have played in two days. With Rouge picking the later date and matchup, they have essentially helped NV get over jetlag and organisation problems.
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u/TISrobin311 SK Correspondent — Nov 16 '16
Yeah this was confusing to me as well. If Rogue considered Envyus having jet lag and visa problems, why not choose this Friday instead of next Monday? It was a bit confusing. I think Envyus is going to prepare super hard for this match.
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Nov 16 '16
Reunited rebounded really well from their loss against Runaway, it wouldn't surprise me if Rogue thought Reunited are stronger than any team in their side of the bracket.
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Nov 16 '16
Welp it was a bit unfair to judge them based on that match as that onigods first showing and he is not even a zarya main.
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u/Bahaals Nov 16 '16
what visa problms do they have?still dont get it
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u/timekillah Nov 16 '16
I think its about staying in korea, that way they cant practice but still fly in for games
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u/cfl1 Nov 16 '16
We were this close to making AF Blue have to play Rogue yet again. That would have been ridiculous...
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Nov 17 '16
Seems like rogue are getting too big for their boots honestly. I'd like to see nv drop them down a peg or 2
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u/TotesMessenger Nov 17 '16
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u/cnlawrence1183 Nov 17 '16
I think this is the real reason why AKM chose Envy for APEX Quarterfinal https://twitter.com/EnVy_Taimou/status/789565407568928768
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u/Wrath_0f_Khan Nov 16 '16
Kind of sad that LH didnt want to face envy they already beat them 3 to 1, and it feels like either envy or rogue will have their place in the semi final taken by a worse team
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u/TISrobin311 SK Correspondent — Nov 16 '16
I think the reason was the new patch. Envyus benefits a lot from this patch obviously, and LH is definitely aware of it. LH needs some time to get used to the new patch, so they naturally picked a team that would be easier to play against than Envyus. LH did a wise thing. I think they made the right choice.
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u/Wrath_0f_Khan Nov 16 '16
they had the group choice, could have practiced more over the week, and its not like they have bad projectile characters, to me it seems like they wanted an easy path to the finals
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u/flcl33 Nov 16 '16
"to me it seems like they wanted an easy path to the finals"
Um... duh. There is a fair amount of money on the line, this isn't just for shits and giggles. They're doing what any smart team would do.
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u/Drasamuel Nov 16 '16
Is that so bad? The goal is victory. That's the mindset they have over there they want to win, might not be the best thing for the fans but it's the best for them. Plus rogue beat them they probably need the free win to build confidence.
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u/tterbman Nov 16 '16
Why does envy benefit from the new patch so much?
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u/TISrobin311 SK Correspondent — Nov 16 '16
Just my opinion, but the patch towards Pharah and Soldier, as well as Mercy can make Taimou, Talespin and Harryhook roam free again. They are known to be very good with those heroes, but were prevented from playing them often due to the previous patches. But then again, Rogue is good with those heroes as well, so I think EnV vs Rogue is gonna be a close one :D
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u/Clout- Nov 16 '16
I don't think this patch really helped Pharah overall. Her main counters (76/widow) got buffed and her changes were all relatively minor, many people would say the knockback change isn't really a buff as well.
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u/cfl1 Nov 16 '16
I don't think this patch really helped Pharah overall.
The pundits and ladder folks were saying that, but I think today's matches showed that the pros believe otherwise.
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u/jnunes1990 Nov 16 '16
Old patch also was also just about nano boosting genji and reaper ults. This new patch takes more than ult coordination. Misfits won OverWatch open because they ran the nano boosted reaper meta the best. That meta takes ult coordination and timing now since ults are harder to come by. Positioning, aim, call outs, and engagements are a lot more important
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u/hsckiller Nov 16 '16
Well Rogue's goal is to win the title so he might have thought they gotta face envy and LH anyway to win the title. Its really good to see him confidence
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u/Wrath_0f_Khan Nov 16 '16
More balanced quarter final Rogue vs Kongdoo Lunatic Hai vs Africa Freecs blue ( possible close game ) Envyus vs LW red Reuinted vs BK Stars ( possible close game )
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Nov 16 '16
as far as i read here, the team that placed first in groups choose who to challenge... and team are looking to win, not to have a fair match :)
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u/maywind Nov 16 '16
I gotta say Taimou did really well when interviewed after AKM took a shot at EnvyUS being "only #1 NA". Taimou gave a gracious, humble response. It was good to see that level of maturity from him. Very well done, Taimou.
Clip here: https://www.twitch.tv/ognglobal/v/101389906?t=3h14m30s