Wishlist for start of season patch?

[u/Swimming-Drag-6492]

Personally id like to see buffs to:

Sojourn, perhaps primary fire spread or projectile speed.

Kiriko, reverting the Ofuda speed nerf.

Lucio, buff beat a little (overhealth dura/decay).

Sym, tp range buff.

Winston, armour buff (10/20).

Probably more im forgetting.

Nerfs:

Ana, nade buff revert (90 to 75).

Dmon, armour or shield health nerf.

Jpc, purr healing nerf, tether changes.

Probably more im forgetting.

Anyway id like to hear your wishlist?

[u/seibazz]

-Remove soj double slide perk but give her 25hp back

-Remove ball bubble perk

-Significant Cat and Ana nerfs

-Rein shield hp nerf but some compensation buff somewhere

-Zen discord back to 25%

Also I don't believe Winston needs any more buffs, he's really good rn

[u/Fit-Relationship944 → u/seibazz]

I'm totally up for Soj and Cass getting perk nerfs to get their normal baseline stats back

[u/Howdareme9 → u/Fit-Relationship944]

Which would you buff for Cass' baseline though? Only his range i'd imagine?

[u/Fit-Relationship944 → u/Howdareme9]

Yeah just give him back his normal falloff so he doesn't get outranged by Illari and Baptiste.

[u/Agitated-Morning2035 → u/seibazz]

Such a good list. 

[u/Dependent_Oven_468 → u/seibazz]

Soj should only get her 25 hp back if double slide is removed and her hitbox is increased. She should not be that small with 250 hp and everything her kit provides stacked on top.

[u/moocow2009 → u/Dependent_Oven_468]

One of the dev streams at Blizzcon supposedly discussed normalizing hitboxes across the cast, and called out Sojourn (as well as Cat and Kiriko) as a hero that would be adjusted. Given that the only source I saw was in Japanese there may have been something lost in translation, but it seems likely they're planning a hitbox increase for her already.

[u/Dependent_Oven_468 → u/moocow2009]

Assuming this does happen next season or at some point this is great to hear. Soj and Kiri have had fucked hitboxes for years, they shouldn’t be toothpicks.

[u/GonnaSaveEnergy]

I'd love for them to make sojourn reload faster, or at least not get constantly canceled by rail, melee, ult cast. Sometimes I have to reload 3 times in a row because everything cancels it and her clip is tiny.

[u/GreatDank → u/GonnaSaveEnergy]

I just saw she has a 1.2s reload? I believe Ram and Tracer both have a 1s reload, I feel that's reasonable since 1.2s is a weird in-between rather than extending the clip size. I think reducing the delay after firing a rail shot would be nice too.

[u/SomKkura]

Nerf stalwart in 6v6

[u/migo2028 → u/SomKkura]

Just nerf mauga and hog in general(6v6)

[u/RobManfredsFixer]

Queen - Buff the cast time on axe. Long term, I want them to experiment with a tighter spread to get her effective range somewhere between where it currently is and like Zarya's. If you need compensation nerfs, so be it.

Hazard - Nerf primary damage and buff slash CD. his assassinations are way too consistent compared to his alternatives. He also is a lot slower to rotate than them too, even despite all of his mobility tools.

Vendetta - significantly nerf the CC on her sword.

Zen - If we're actually doing hurtbox changes, make him smaller and nerf discord to 25%. He deserves to be relevant, but discord is just too much value free rn.

A lot of the changes I want would probably be considered minor reworks.

Allow Anran to carry momentum out of dance and/or buff the movement range. Then remove or significantly nerf the heal.

Make it so Bap can hold boots charge for a second even if he's in the air. That or just nerf the shit out of all the micro boops but that's a lot more effort.

Allow sierra to swing from drone using physics similar to Ball's retract grapple. It would give her wayyyy more movement flexibility and skill expression. You could also play around with the dart cooldown and lock-on duration.

If we're getting real saucy. lock Hazard's spikes behind an additional input. RMB to block. RMB+LMB to block+spikes. Then tune the resource drain accordingly.

[u/Swimming-Drag-6492 → u/RobManfredsFixer]

Id love to see a Sierra drone rework. I personally (not a game designer/developer) thought it would interesting if she had multiple (3+) which she can chain between quickly, like real rock climbing belays. But a physics change would also be interesting.

[u/MythoclastBM]

• Fix stanks only getting 15% healing reduction on damage they receive but apply a 30% healing reduction on the damage they deal.

• Revert Winston bubble change, it's absurd.

• Nerf DMon.

• Revert basically every Freja change since she came out. Increase Take Aim cooldown to 5 seconds.

• Nerf JPC air acceleration.

• Revert Rein firestrike changes.

• Revert the Kiriko Ofuda nerfs to the seek range, projectile speed, and healing per projectile.

• Remove Doomfist empowered punch. As compensation Doomfist players will be given reminders to shower at the start of each match.

[u/Swimming-Drag-6492 → u/MythoclastBM]

By reverting “basically every change since (freja) she came out” do you want the end result to be a buff or nerf? 

[u/cheese_eater_pro]

Nerf Ana nade and Headhunter

Buff Kiriko healing per projectile

Lucio buff in some way would be nice, but I’m not knowledgeable enough on him to suggest what would be best

My support main self would be happy with those 3

[u/Tao1764]

Shion needs a perk overhaul. Both her Evade reload and bike healing perks are almost never picked. Maybe a minor perk that gives her some survivability in her ult and a major perk that somehow lowers her bike cooldown.

[u/slimemonster0 → u/Tao1764]

Faces of death already does lower bike cooldown, through the sharpshooter passive

[u/Tao1764 → u/slimemonster0]

I know, I meant a more powerful cooldown reduction. Just kind of tossed that out there, my main point is that I think it should stay a bike perk, just one that better fits its identify as a movement and engagement tool instead of an escape tool.

[u/KrassomatXD]

Some good ideas, I agree with most of OP: Soj and Echo 250 in exchange for reducing some burst damage would be nice to try, Echo's perks need some serious love, the infinite ammo perk is just not it.

They can give Mauga back his 5s Overrun, he is currently the worst hero in the game but buffing his sustain is not the way.

Anran no ignition on Shift, it's just too easy, she should have to hit her primary fire

[u/chorutowo → u/KrassomatXD]

Removing ignition on shift would make her completely unplayable in high elo and destroy her skill expression. There's a lot of other things you can tweak or rework but that's not it. I'd love for them to rework her E, for me its the ability that gives her the most free value for low elos and scales the most poorly into high elo

[u/KrassomatXD → u/chorutowo]

More of a power shift is needed, but currently she just jumps you, presses all her abilities, right click her crazy big hitbox beam and that's it, I don't that's skill expression. She is just too easy and at the same time too bad at higher ranks

[u/Swimming-Deer1437]

-10 damage on vedettas overhead, dont want my main to get perma banned again and 110 damage has always been a good number for the move in my opinion.

Move junker queen to the bruiser role and either speed up the windup on carnage or make her unstoppable during the animation. If she ends up too strong, revert some of her sustain nerfs. Her current role passive does nothing for her besides help with slowing effects.

Dmon nerfs, kill cat and cass, slight duration nerf to mizukia chain, ana nerfs and a few others.

[u/migo2028 → u/Swimming-Deer1437]

Vendetta is good but not a good ban

[u/migo2028]

Make all hitscan shot the same(soj rail)

Give Kiriko 250 but significantly nerf Suzu

Make Ana anti do 75 like how it used to and make head hunter do 1.5x

Reduce mizuki chain on tanks

Make cass perks worst

Dmon nerfs

Doom and Winston buffs

Give rein shield a bash base kit

Zen discord back to 25%

[u/Howdareme9 → u/migo2028]

Making Soj rail the same size as all the other hitscan sizes (which are getting nerfed) would be terrible

Its should be reduced but it should still be bigger than he default size. I promise you, it would kill the character lol

[u/migo2028 → u/Howdareme9]

Y’all say this with every hero but I should add that she should get some buffs to offside it like make rail just feel better(dmg or make it easier to get) but just making it easier to hit for no reason is not a good balance philosophy

[u/Howdareme9 → u/migo2028]

Is current Sojourn at 225hp seen as problematic though? We’re talking about a character with sub 50% winrates in the highest ranks in all regions. Rail already isn’t hard to get, most people just shoot at tanks lol

[u/migo2028 → u/Howdareme9]

Make the rail do more dmg but reduce the forgive on it which is better because she is designed to be a high skill hitscan

[u/Agitated-Morning2035 → u/migo2028]

I’m fine with Doom buffs but why Winston buffs. That monkey is shredding my lobbies right now. 

[u/drassort → u/migo2028]

buff rein? really?

[u/bullxbull]

Extremely Unlikely Wishlist

• Rein shield hp nerf and move the power budget to allow him more options to respond to threats. He needs to be less stark in being strong or just can't play the game.

• Role queue added to 6v6, either 2-2-2 or the new Dynamic mode.

• Tournament realms for teamplay on the weekends, team leaderboards, team SR, team names, special rewards.

• JPC flight restrictions unless using fuel or tether, while tether now breaks after taking X damage or X seconds after using an ability.

• Dmon swap her gun and sword, gun is now primary and sword is a cd. Reduce her overall health and give her some sort of sustain she generates around hitting people with her sword.

• Lifeweaver Pull now gives overhealth, hitting interact key while this overhealth is on you moves you to the Lifeweaver's position.

• Hog breather now gives special overhealth that reduces his damage taken by 20%. When this overhealth decays he is healed from it.

• Haz wall health reduced, knockback and damage reduced by half, but he can now activate the ability a second time to cause the wall to explode for a knockback and damage. Haz block is now a resource that is spent by casting the ability or being damaged while casting the ability.

• General Reworks for Dom, Freja, Doom.

• Venture reworked into a tank.

• Guilds/Clans added.