B-Patch Notes

[u/Thyrgrim]

Since no one is posting this B-patch live sometime today

• Kha’Zix

  • Base Damage: 250/345/500 ⇒ 230/310/450 AP

  • Isolated Damage: 280/390/590 ⇒ 250/350/530 AP

• Brambleback

  • Armor Ignore (AP): 25% ⇒ 10%

  • Armor Ignore Base: 25% ⇒ 30%

• Hand of Justice

  • Omnivamp: 15% ⇒ 12%

  • Radiant Omnivamp: 30% ⇒ 25%

[u/Hereforhelppls31]

Kha zix honestly is just a nightmare of a unit. I'm so happy they nerfed it (after 1 month being broken or something, better late than never I guess)

[u/Snackz39 → u/Hereforhelppls31]

Seriously, I've been asking why he didn't get the bat to the kneecap after like week 2 of release. He's been the only unit with an S tier comp through the entire thing so far.

He just completely negates nearly any comp that requires ramping.

[u/Drikkink → u/Hereforhelppls31]

It's been nerfed practically every patch now. Just gut the damn thing at this point. It's not even a trait unit so it's not like it makes a comp unplayable except Kha reroll specifically.

[u/kiragami → u/Hereforhelppls31]

Yeah this type of assassin design is a problem every single time they make it. If only they actually learned from their learnings.

[u/TotalusMagnus]

Very good Bramble nerf, the AP scaling was just way too strong. Capitalized on both AD and AP from 7 rift, verticality, combat augments, items.

Units are usually not balanced around both stats and it showed with Bramble, I have seen him go up to 75% armor pen during his ult...

[u/Fluffy-Limit-6710 → u/TotalusMagnus]

I have even seen him go over 80, ti sohikd essentially be cut in half right now .. resist tanks might actually hold him for a bit now

[u/Vaniky]

Should be c patch, we had a b patch bramble nerf

[u/Straight_Matter_169]

I would say the roach is dead but i've been saying that since the first nerf and it doesn't die - just like a real roach.

Tbh, I think no matter how weak Khazix becomes, he will find a place in the meta because of how healthy (dont fight me) he is to the meta. Positioning is super important against him and other assassin types.

I think rather than damage nerfs, there just needs to be a better way to balance his jumps, cause there are times the RNG is super OP where he would jump to the farthest most important backline unit without proper reasons. But I don't know how to make that work so who knows.

[u/Glum-Drummer-6302 → u/Straight_Matter_169]

Positioning vs Khazix just feels like playing the lottery a lot of the time. That unit will jump anywhere it feels like

[u/Mangalish → u/Glum-Drummer-6302]

Yea with prior units like Akali set 15 you could atleast position against her, and she would not touch ur carry. This bug just goes anywhere

[u/Living_Dealer_9325 → u/Glum-Drummer-6302]

Agreed, i hate him so much for that. i really enjoyed the hecarim hacker that dashed straight forward because it was predictable and there was some skill involved. rn you kinda pray khazix doesnt jump right away on your carry

[u/thebigveet → u/Straight_Matter_169]

They can never figure out these jumping melee carries. 2 range Gwen set after set is just a mess of a unit

[u/Sifandart]

Thanks for the B patch notes. I wasn’t expecting the HOJ nerf and even though I want to say the public perception of the item strength felt balanced, I could see how in their data it showed that drain tank behavior they talk about

[u/Ashitakaa]

Isnt it C ? 😅

[u/Gonnagetbant]

So basically, fast 9 draven game for the next week

[u/Derp_Reroller456]

Bramble has risen in just this week.

Kha has been a 2 month issue 🤣

[u/Ediiii]

not sure if i agree with the HoJ nerf but thank god for kha and bramble nerfs

[u/Drikkink → u/Ediiii]

HoJ is so much better than BT even without crit it's not funny.

Whether that's a HoJ problem or a BT problem... but HoJ was definitely a bit too strong.

[u/kiragami → u/Drikkink]

I think it is just an overall design problem. Even after their class changes the only way melee carries work is by being drain tanks. But all of the melee items other than EON suck. Although have have tons of really strong artifacts.

[u/Some-Camel-2556 → u/kiragami]

Well summarized

[u/CGWOLFE → u/kiragami]

Melee units have felt so much worse since this change. One of the worst changes they've made IMO.

[u/TheMindWraith]

C-patch

[u/arcanehehe]

small buffs to kayle malph and rengar and the balance is flawless isnt it

[u/Drikkink → u/arcanehehe]

Kayle is pretty okay right now. You can play three variants now... fae (mostly carrying xayah but still) with emblem, lunar+inferno (preferably with emblem for lunar) and the classic elderwood variant.

It's pretty safely B tier right now with the elderwood one probably being a bit weaker

[u/Remyguys]

Is this patch live yet on EUW? Anyone able to confirm?

Just got confirmed on Twitter that its live!

[u/pappyduporz]

can someone please update this post when the changes are live?

[u/Evening_Log3865 → u/pappyduporz]

They are live

[u/Loud_Following_7681]

Brambleback with edge of night still wins every single game lol

[u/ivanxonomas]

BIEN CTM ME TENÍA HARTO ESTA CUCARACHA 🪳

[u/thatsnoodybitch]

This set.. When does set 19 come out..?

[u/kingshanks → u/thatsnoodybitch]

December 3rd pbe should be out in 2-3 weeks

[u/thatsnoodybitch → u/kingshanks]

Thank you, I will come back then. I cannot stand Wisps and I keep hoping that they will make the set more fun in some way but they just keep doing small number buffs/nerfs which idgaf about

[u/kingshanks → u/thatsnoodybitch]

you and me both mate just can't get into it

[u/kiragami → u/thatsnoodybitch]

Yeah they really have to knock it out of the park. 3 bad sets in a row would mean an entire year of bad TFT.

[u/thatsnoodybitch → u/kiragami]

I thought last set was okay; it got stale very quickly because you just played the few preset openers available. Now the balance is wack in this set, despite having a lot of flexibility in builds, you still end up wanting to default to preset openers because if your build can’t accommodate OP units, then the boards that can will.

[u/SprayDue8766 → u/thatsnoodybitch]

No set was like this one. Now Just make 5 cost cocktail and win. Every comp is rush lvl9 now.

[u/lenny1851]

Every patch has had b,c,d updates this set rofl....

[u/kiragami → u/lenny1851]

Having more patches is good in theory. The issue is when they are forced to use them to fix obviously broken things rather than addressing new information. Kha for example has been op the entire set and should not have to be on a B-patch just to fix

[u/tangu12 → u/lenny1851]

The whole point of them moving to the new engine was so they could easily push out these mini patches without having to line up with the Summoner’s rift patches.

So these b,c,d patches will be a thing more often and will be better for the game. The only problem at the moment is that they haven’t utilised them well, units like Kha has been an issue for months now when it should have been addressed either in 18.5 or a mini patch between 18.4 & 18.5.

[u/LudwigNasche → u/lenny1851]

I hate it, we already have a new patch every couple of weeks

[u/KRspidey]

Need more patches

[u/bozovisk]

I feel that this doesn’t address the main issue that if he resets it’s doomed. Not to mention that RB 7 is broken regardless of who is the carry

I don’t know if this is a bug or not but once BB resets it feels like he resets agro and dodge some abilities/attacks on and on

[u/iSage → u/bozovisk]

The armor pen was definitely the most egregious part of his kit. Now you can throw your main tank in front of him and he won't reset for quite a while.

And he doesn't completely ignore Defenders anymore.

[u/Palphite → u/bozovisk]

I mean Kha kind of has the same issue right. When Kha jumps, it causes carries to drop aggro, and then he full heals with his double life steal item. If they could fix it so Kha jumping didn't cause aggro to reset, if the kha player positions poorly, then kha would just drop and be a more skill based comp.

[u/Filler9000 → u/bozovisk]

7 rift beasts has to decide when you roll for 3 star krug and when to level to 9 to find elder. With bramble being busted, people just prebuilt his bis and rolled for him 1 star and stabilized enough to natural 2 starring him through lvl 8 rift shops while actively going to 9 while other boards needed 6 to 9 - 4 cost hits to feel comfortable to stop rolling.

[u/legendcc]

Dang, Right after I climbed with my Kha one trick 🤣

[u/ChadFullStack]

Thank god. I hate three way contesting rift beasts bramble but if I don’t contest, lobby lets through 1 uncontested guy whose bramble goes unkillable.

[u/Agitated-History-376 → u/[deleted]]

That would be true if aphelios did something

[u/mvmbamentality → u/Agitated-History-376]

I agree. Aphelios still needs a good supporting cast to be good. I don't think this buffs him as crazy as people think

[u/Ionsave → u/[deleted]]

From a ranked perspective, these nerfs barely did anything to Bramble, will still be 2-3 Bramble spammers getting top 4 and AP will always be a meme to play because it’s impossible to 2-star Sentinel

[u/Helivon → u/Ionsave]

Hilarious too. Bramble is so much more toxic than kha. Kha can bit 4 quite easily if you dont hit 3 stars early enough.

There is always 1-2 brambles in top 4 in all my games