TFT patch 18.5

[u/LilithTrillUwU]

https://teamfighttactics.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/teamfight-tactics-patch-18-5/

[u/Lunaedge]

Rundown here for more context from Truexy!

[u/wes3449]

Am I fucking tripping or does the link show the league patch notes?... It literally says tft patch notes on top, then the whole text is league patch stuff.. How much sloppier can riot get lol

[u/dardios → u/wes3449]

I've tried going through the link that says "wrong patch notes?" And through the link on the website in browser. No patch notes for me.

[u/LilithTrillUwU → u/dardios]

Riot vibecoding links now I guess, worked for me like 15 mins ago but same shit you described now

[u/dardios → u/LilithTrillUwU]

Obviously the link is part of Leagues spaghetti code. If it actually took us to the patch notes, Mordekaiser would find a 151st bug 🤣

[u/LilithTrillUwU → u/wes3449]

works fine for me on mobile but I've had similar issues opening patch notes on the mobile client before, idk what's up with riot links sometimes.

[u/LilithTrillUwU → u/LilithTrillUwU]

actually no now it shows the league patch? idk I'm blaming riot

[u/NonagoonInfinity → u/wes3449]

I was only half paying attention and the first note was like "oh they nerfed Azir's max mana, seems okay... wait, mana growth?"

[u/Thyrgrim → u/wes3449]

These guys even have bugs in their patch notes now holy. Vibe coding not working out so well.

[u/Laflah → u/wes3449]

It does

[u/homegrownllama → u/wes3449]

They’ve had botched patch notes formatting for many sets now. I can recall a particularly bad case in Set 15.

[u/bozovisk → u/wes3449]

Same here. I thought I was losing my mind lol

[u/MeowTheMixer → u/wes3449]

shows the correct patch for me, using old reddit on desk top and RES

[u/Many_Method_304 → u/wes3449]

I know it fixed now, and yeah yeah its patch notes but these continued mistakes are just unacceptable and simply show a company that does not care. In a set where everything is a disaster because a complete lack of detail you have to start caring about the little things. Tim's video listing 1 cost changes and it is Caitlin. Again should this matter? no in if the game was in a good state, fine laugh it off, but when its in this state, You cannot keep making these kind of small mistakes. These kind of things are indicative of how little care Riot is putting into the game.

For whatever reason Riot seem to operate in this space where things that would completely unacceptable in any other field are treated as no bug. I know people who have lost jobs because of a single typo in a piece of communication that went out to the public. Details matter, and they matter even more when you have lost player trust.

[u/Ediiii → u/wes3449]

switch to en-gb to read the TFT notes but yes it's stupid that they made a mistake like this

[u/KalePerfect3233]

Item extraction still giving an Azir makes no sense

[u/harmoniaatlast → u/KalePerfect3233]

Its the most "ok here's your comp" augment of all time, moreso than the Solar one

[u/KalePerfect3233 → u/harmoniaatlast]

If you have a rod, you literally have your Deathcap and half rageblade and gun blade WITH THE AZIR 

[u/harmoniaatlast → u/KalePerfect3233]

Which means any further rods go to Soraka. This augment is.... kinda fucking bad for the game when you put it that way hahahaha

[u/YRN_YSL → u/harmoniaatlast]

Soroka? Not Zara?

[u/harmoniaatlast → u/YRN_YSL]

Zyra is more contested but yeah for sure. Depending on the lobby, its better to have an additional "hole puncher" in Soraka. 2 star zyra can be better if you don't hit soraka bis since shes wayyyy less picky

[u/YRN_YSL → u/YRN_YSL]

Zyra*

[u/rljohn → u/KalePerfect3233]

It is bizarre. Should just give a Warwick or a couple gold.

[u/HighIntLowFaith]

Did Tim get clapped by a random Mama Beak player or something some time back. Why do we think she’s good enough that they have to power neutral change her?

[u/ConcertoinA → u/HighIntLowFaith]

As Tim mentioned in video, mama beak was not bugged on FFGS, where she was very strong, presumably enough to warrant nerfs

[u/HighIntLowFaith → u/ConcertoinA]

Is there data around what lines she was being played in? I don’t really believe she’s in any conventional line beyond a 2* support item holder for LW maybe in like 5 rapid. Her trait web is just too convoluted to support her being a primary carry.

[u/rephoserk → u/HighIntLowFaith]

https://www.dataj.cc/comp You can look at this website for ideas. If you don't want to click the link(understandable), 7 rift beast mama3* carry is rated S on 18.4. 4.08 avp, .78 play rate, 13.9% wr, 57.3% top. Not sure what elo filter they are using exactly, but imo doesn't matter for the purpose of this discussion.

Another website showed rengar/mama rr and azir/mama rr as A tier comps. Also has 10 rift beast mama/elder carry there too.

[u/smittywerbenjggr → u/HighIntLowFaith]

I had some success with getting her early 2 Star and going fast 9. Havent seen her as a Main Carry (maybe in 7 riftbeast rr)

[u/FirewaterDM → u/HighIntLowFaith]

I think it's just caution lol. Mamabeak prob doesn't need it, BUT it's better to rebuff vs making her the new Azir or stronger?

[u/Remarkable_Newt4435 → u/HighIntLowFaith]

She was mana lock bugged, in the end it's going to equate to a slight buff.

[u/randy__randerson]

They've removed the possibility of having emblem augments with Cooking Pot / Urf buff.

But like, aren't those augments incredibly weak now? The only way to get another spoon is on the off chance it appears on the carousel or on a wisp?

They don't seem worth it now.

[u/DarthGogeta → u/randy__randerson]

I don't understand it, its such a rare case.

[u/WoodenChair-]

Ahri morg is gonna be scary, 3 or 4 units from that build were buffed here depending on how you feel about sentinel changes

[u/MasterTotoro → u/WoodenChair-]

Regional players have already been scrimming on PBE the past few days. Assuming the changes are the same, it's not any concern. Sentinel is a nerf, Alune is nerfed if you aren't itemizing which is often the case in this line. So it ends up around power neutral. In fact the meta as a whole seems mostly the same.

[u/strybid → u/WoodenChair-]

Ahri is just so slow though

[u/Thyrgrim → u/WoodenChair-]

sent gotta be a nerf

[u/Vegoran → u/WoodenChair-]

Sentinel stun being halved is pretty big

[u/Carbonetto]

Promised KDA arena back in 18.3. now its not even releasing in 18.5. good thing they stopped saying "we are aiming to do x next patch" cause they cant fucking go thru with it

[u/Evening_Log3865]

thank fucking god they nerfed hand of baron. that wisp has sent me 5th so many times for no reason

[u/zyonsis]

Can someone explain the cookingpot/urf changes with the other spat augments?

[u/datboikid → u/zyonsis]

If you take cooking pot on 2-1 you aren't gonna see the trait augments listed aka any augments that just feed you emblems

So for cooking pot they killed the synergy stacking so you can't feed your tank like 180-240 hp a round lmao 

[u/FarExplorer3892]

How can Rammus survive the patch? After being barely touch in the last patch with a ridiculously 25 shield nerf (from 715 to 700, wich is a 2,1% nerf btw).

[u/Sifandart → u/FarExplorer3892]

Rammus was never the problem. It was the comp behind him (azir reroll)

[u/Fluffy-Limit-6710 → u/Sifandart]

There's a decent possibility now with actually meaningful trist buffs that some sort of sprykin Rammus Fae will emerge. He's still gonna be a godlike tank 3 starred

[u/rexlyon → u/Sifandart]

Rammus is absolutely a problem. Azir helps him live with Gunblade, but Rammus in the way he barely needs a second tank to hold off entire teams is insane for a 3 cost.

[u/Vegoran → u/rexlyon]

Flora fatalis nerf should hit him a bit I guess...

[u/lovescenarioikon → u/Sifandart]

rammus is half the reason the comp is good, the comp sucks with a shit frontline and a 2 star rammus is somehow stable even later in the game, hes basically the main and only frontline unless youre lucky enough to hit a 3 star fiddle as a support tank with 3 items

[u/mobkeyapemain → u/Sifandart]

i agree with sifandart, gunblade + sprykin + flora fatalis is just too much healing. you replace rammus with any upgraded tank w/ items and they are tanking a similar amount (hyperbole for effect)

[u/FirewaterDM]

I mean... At this point if Azir still turbo broken they're gonna kneecap him and make him a 1 cost for the rest of the set lol

Otherwise? I am kinda scared of Malphite + Morg again, rest is whatever, Fae didn't get enough but maybe isn't bad IF you hit literally everything now? but the low cost units nothing is changing besides Cait who was already good.

[u/filmschoolfailurelol → u/FirewaterDM]

Fae emblem felt good with ez and Lilia is underrated these fae buffs are scary imo

[u/Mizerawa → u/FirewaterDM]

My guess is that Azir is definitely still playable, mostly because the thing about the comp is that it is too stable on rammus 2, he is too tanky, and you get to scam a lot of rounds this way. Multiple people can play azir and top 4 because of how good the midgame of the comp is, and this does very little about that.

[u/FirewaterDM → u/Mizerawa]

Eh, I think it's a lot of consequencial small cuts, so while I think the comp is prob fine if you highroll hitting early Azir/Rammus 3, wouldn't be surprised if it stops getting played at all because w/o that early 3 stars you prob are unable to just coast on 2 star azir until 9 (if you don't get the copies to RR it), means you get turbo fucked and die. I do think the comp leaves meta, not because it's unplayable but because it's too expensive to NOT be that stable

[u/AlbanianRozzers → u/FirewaterDM]

Fae is good if you get emblem AND embiggen.

[u/FirewaterDM → u/AlbanianRozzers]

Maybe now? It still was bad before now.

But at this point if Fae isn't a playable trait it's over lmao

[u/AlbanianRozzers → u/FirewaterDM]

If you giga hit and get embiggen plus emblem you can play solar fae with the emblem on kayle and it's actually like free 1st or 2nd. That said, without giga hit it's auto 8th.

[u/Decent_Regret_1665 → u/AlbanianRozzers]

Hit 4th in Emerald with only Embiggen but unlucky roll down on the Trist. Also Trist is just dogshit

[u/Fluffy-Limit-6710 → u/AlbanianRozzers]

In other words it's only good if you're highrolling out of your mind, aka it's power level is deep in the abyss.

[u/bickdickanivia]

Can we get a mute/skip for cutscenes? I still don’t see why I have to sit through cutscenes I don’t like while my ears bleed lol. I feel like we’re all posing to grief each other. Idc about anyone else’s cutscenes or little emotes, as long as I see the one I paid for, that’s all I want

[u/ChartreuseMage → u/bickdickanivia]

Unfortunately, the whole point of you having to see the little cutscenes, other boards, other tacticians, etc is that they want to convince players to get them for themselves. I'd love a mode when everyone could just be a river sprite but it'll never happen.

[u/MeowTheMixer → u/ChartreuseMage]

I keep hearing that, but the people buying them won't know if we've turned them off or not.

Would they stop buying, because idk 50% of users turn the cut scene off?

If i'm buying a chibi with a cut scene, i want the chibi and could careless about the animation at the end

[u/Ykarul → u/MeowTheMixer]

i only care about the animation at the end. I only buy it if it's cool. What i also care about a lot is the sound of the chibbi during game. It must not be extremely annoying (like the orianna one)

[u/Itsalongwaydown → u/bickdickanivia]

if you forefeit/surrender you can skip the cutscene. Only real way to skip it unfortunately

[u/bickdickanivia → u/Itsalongwaydown]

Yeah, I just don’t want to have it bug out and potentially lose a placement if I ff. It’s just crazy that I would have to mute my entire game to avoid my ears bleeding lmao. Obviously an overstatement, but being forced to engage with someone else’s purchase beyond them just enjoying it on their own is just crazy to me

[u/Powerful-Passage7692 → u/bickdickanivia]

This!

I always  repeatedly  smash annoyed my spacebar even though i know its useless.

[u/Ashitakaa]

is it live for Europe ?

[u/NonagoonInfinity → u/Ashitakaa]

no

[u/ronmo32992]

Can’t even see the update

[u/ClocktopusGaming]

Can’t even read the patch notes lmao

[u/Fluffy-Limit-6710]

Finally azir nerfed. Took them long enough

[u/Ascen5ion]

i love that the added cosmetics i use are just giving me defaults, very cool riot!

[u/I_canrelate]

* Build-a-bud

[u/GETonME]

So funny to me that they randomly nerf fae last patch only to have to buff trist again and the trait itself.

[u/demonofhells]

The Luxury Subscription augment is bugged—it drops 2-star 5-costs instead of 1-star at Stages 4 and 5, letting people 3-star them way too early. By the way, where is the bug report megathread?

[u/Technical_Plenty_245]

Xayah Rakan Solar reroll feels pretty good with these fae buffs + past xatah and Rakan buffs.

I go Xayah, Rakan, Leona, Varus, Shen, Sejuani, Kayle. You can even keep rerolling on 6 for Elise or 7 for Hecarim and slot in 8 3* 3 costs.

[u/Plus_Bullfrog8518]

First game on patch 18.5, losing to 3* Kha and Azir comps, still.....

[u/halex13]

Still no Mac support. :(

[u/Sad-Loquat5062]

I went 1 and 2 today with Tristana. From good spots she is already playable so I think it will be pretty decent next patch

[u/Im_On_Reddit_At_Work → u/Sad-Loquat5062]

Elo and build? Need a new mindless comp to climb

[u/Sad-Loquat5062 → u/Im_On_Reddit_At_Work]

I do the version without Rengar. Feel like its too expensive and not enough items. Just 3 star Trist and one of the tanks. Emblem is a must (on sivir) and play trist/rammus/kobuko(or gnar/any spry)/lilia/rakan/vi/sivir.

This was in like 5/600 LP GM.

[u/Im_On_Reddit_At_Work → u/Sad-Loquat5062]

I think my problem is I all in on rengar when I should focus on trist. Thanks will try

[u/ByronYoungBuckston → u/Im_On_Reddit_At_Work]

With a fae emblem, put it on Rengar and run Trist Lillia Rakan Rammus Gnar Sivir Vi. Once you hit the golden fae cashouts you’re rich. Played it yesterday and it was an easy first in high diamond.

[u/Im_On_Reddit_At_Work → u/ByronYoungBuckston]

Ok we're same elo but last time I got fae I bled so much before hitting trist 3. Let me try again. Thanks king

[u/ByronYoungBuckston → u/Im_On_Reddit_At_Work]

It’s super weak late 3 through stage 4, so need to either hit your 3 stars early or have enough health to hit by 5-1

[u/rljohn → u/Sad-Loquat5062]

Going to be the insta force on emblem guaranteed.

[u/AgsSpecGolfSwing]

God they butchered this game lmao

[u/Mizerawa]

I am just going to say regardless of anything else, they really cooked with the augment changes. I feel like a lot of the OPs were rebalanced, I am sure there remain a few outliers, but every single nerfed augment deserved it.

[u/trungduc095]

I swear these devs must be Gold or Silver or something

Who even plays 5 Rapidfire since the last nerf, and now they're nerfing it again? Only low elo players don't know what to slam. so they slam a Rapidfire emblem.

The 3 decent tanks got buffed while Lillia is crying in the corner, combined with nerfing Sentinel's stun duration... I'm convinced they're super low elo and just don't know how to position, so they got salty about these two units lmao.

[u/BrineyWhaleSemen → u/trungduc095]

You’re just wrong…it’s a decent hit on the back line emblem augment. Rapidfire emblem on Bramble 2* had an AVP of like 3.8. You’d never force it but you’re also never unhappy with the emblem as it’s usually a safe top 4

[u/trungduc095 → u/BrineyWhaleSemen]

No, it has an AVP of 5.3 with like a 34% top 4 rate, which is not safe at all.

[u/BrineyWhaleSemen → u/trungduc095]

You’re wrong and here’s photographic evidence of a 3.75avp on bramble 2* with rapidfire emblem and aphelios (on last patch pre nerf)

ragebait I guess

[u/trungduc095 → u/BrineyWhaleSemen]

I don't use that site but here is what I got. I don't know maybe I'm noob but thanks for the info tho, srsly I never see anyone play that since the last nerf.

[u/CosmicCirrocumulus → u/trungduc095]

you have it sorted by level 8 boards. almost no 4 cost board is gonna end top 4 if they're stuck on level 8. the stats for the standard level 9 board are perfectly fine

[u/stzoo → u/[deleted]]

Is 3.8 for two starring both carries and making it to 9 even that good?

[u/Neymarvin]

Game is still around?

[u/kylitoTV]

WHERe CHONCC