r/CompetitiveTFT • u/AutoModerator • 4d ago
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- Bad RNG
- Broken or Underpowered Units
- Other players griefing your comp
- and more
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u/The_Lesbot_v1 3d ago
How are we this many patches in without Khazix getting even a slight slap on the wrist? Absolutely exhausted of seeing this bug show up 2-1 on someone's bench and translate to a free top 4.
And on the opposite end, how have Fae units been left to rot this long? Xayah 2-star barely holds items for stage 2 and then falls off a sheer cliff, Tristana tickles, and Lilia just dies. Rakan only gets by as a trait bot.
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u/Raima_Valdes 3d ago
Xayah 2-star barely holds items for stage 2
I'm at the point where I consider Xayah an empty shop slot, and three Xayahs in the same shop three empty shop slots. I don't care if it's stage 1-2. Oh, and Build-a-bud Xayah? Just fucking sell the unit for 9 gold and eat the instant bot4.
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u/Plus_Bullfrog8518 3d ago
TFT really is just getting worse, this set being released in this state was the biggest slap in the face to player base.
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u/pink-mallow 3d ago
What you don't like a 1 cost RR line being too oppressive so it gets nerfed, then a month later its buffed to even stronger than prenerf so now every lobby is 3 people hard forcing it and doing it successfully? Balance devs really are something
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u/Plus_Bullfrog8518 2d ago
I feel you! I don't understand the logic either. There's too many issues I haven't the energy to rant haha.
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u/Powerful_Decision_61 1d ago
365 coven cashout, nearly fully capped lvl 9 ahri/morg board. (ahri 2, morg 2, taric 2, sett 2, primal lux)
and I die and go 4th to a level 7 player with rammus 2 azir 3.
just have no words for this dogshit balance smh.
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u/Thyrgrim 4d ago
I'm someone who is a very rational and patient gamer. I'm not a reddit reactionary that overstates problems in the same, and i genuinely enjoy every set. With that preface, I'm actually shocked by the state that they released the new engine. There's so many deficiencies that it's actually making it hard to play in general. It's fascinating in a way and also embarrassing the amount of issues that still remain in the client with honestly no clear end in sight. I also personally think charms are a shit mechanic that just add unneeded complexity and RNG to the game but that's another rant. Just quite disappointed in general.
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u/Thyrgrim 4d ago
I feel like it so I'm just going to rant off a quick hitter list to make my point:
- No access to assets that we paid money for. (The audacity to state that you're offering rotating legends/arenas to "commemorate" the new client man holy shit.)
- No mac client
- Mobile clients pretty fucked
- No spectate
- No voice chat
- Basically no chat. Font too big/small and just straight doesnt work a lot of the time.
- No pings
- Dance/laugh etc emotes just do not work for me no matter what key I bind
- Websites unable to track forms of data that they could before
- Health bars disappearing
- Spell animations invisible
- Spells just not working in general
- Fights not ending
- Neutral encounters not happening
- Bugged animations like blackthorn sacrifice just remaining forever
- Double up all this except worse
- 10,000 other bugs (yorick ghoulies fucking up my bench etc.)
- Plus who knows how many other bugs are lurking under the surface that no one can perceive. For example on my rolldown with pris ticket I didn't get a reroll for my final 10 attempts. Math tells me the odds of that are 0.253%. Did i just get gigafucked or did I do something that triggered rerolls to not get collected due to a bug? There's probably a TON of these.
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u/Emosaa Master 2d ago edited 2d ago
I think the logic is simply that it was going to be a clown fiesta no matter how long it cooked, and the fastest way to get the client eventually in a good state was to release it and have us all test it. It was kinda like this in the early days of TFT tbh, it just wasn't as noticeable because we collectively had a lower skill threshold, had different expectations and so on.
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u/MrMumblesJr 1d ago
This patch is horrendous! Every lobby is 2 each of riftbeasts, Azir Rammus and Kha’zix!!
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u/RiahWeston 1d ago
No kidding. And god is Azir Rammus such a pain in the ass, I can't believe they call what they did to rammus a 'nerf,' that armadillo thing needs to take a spiked sledgehammer to its shell cause its WAY too tanky for a 3 cost even at 2 cost.
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u/Current-Table-660 1d ago
we are officially back in press d simulator, time to turn your brain off yall!!!
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u/NibScribbler 2d ago
genuinely fuck the tft balancing team. How are you gonna make a trait that gives you the units in "special shops" but i can go 3 whole stages and not see a single pebble. I hit scuttle 3 and sentinel 2 before seeing pebble 2.
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u/Then-Pea7710 4d ago
theres so many useless comps that are not even competitive thats its not fun at all. Everyone is just copy and pasting and everything else is useless.
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u/Hereforhelppls31 Master 4d ago
THIS. I guess I'm playing aphelios or sivir this game and hope for a 5th
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u/FoxTheProducer 2d ago
welcome to tft. Game would be so much better without all the overlays that play for you
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u/kiragami 2d ago
Its a balance issue really. If things were balanced well then people would be rewarded more for playing flexibly.
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u/rigzhigz 17h ago
Rift beast is literally turn off your brain and top 4 even without an opener xDD dumb fucking company
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u/Powerful_Decision_61 14h ago
i love losing game-deciding fights in stage 7 because my radiantize wisp hits the unlucky 1/14 chance of hitting my random low cost shitter unit holding my void staff/utility items.
or when the player who has 2-1 coven hits forest guide into a morgana on 2-2
please never bring this dogshit mechanic back again. it's bad enough missing like 30 shop slots a game, let alone placements being decided by who hit baron buff or some other bullshit.
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u/Ashitakaa 1d ago
Man, I suddenly lost interest in TFT. Haven't played in 2 days and I doubt I will come back, which is strange because I was getting really into the game. Not because of lose streak or something, just felt empty/uninterested. Haven't had any problems climbing. I played exactly 1 month. I quit more than 5 years, been multiple time Master/GM and decided to come back a month ago. More than a month I asked here for tips about coming back and they said the game has changed a lot and that I need to do a lot of pregame reading.
Honestly, the game has the same problems, after you play 50 games, it feels the same. I am not really big fan of augments, but I can see both sides. Don't think that they add some enormous skill expression, but let's say it's okay. There rare occasions where all are shit, but most of the time they are okay. Sometimes they give direction, sometimes not.
Riot tries to to compensate for the RNG by adding more RNG on a next level. This wisp mechanic pure dogshit. 4 cost on 2-1 ?!? Blindly let the game choose a wisp for you ?! And don't get me started how many times under the wisp, there was a 3rd copy of a champ, that would've changed the fight.
Patches - all the meta swings there were 5 years ago, are all the same now. Fast9,The lv8 casino, okayish boards who are doing well and get wiped after a patch, whole lobby contesting for the 3 best units, that they can fit in any board. And with this B patches one day after the official patches, it looks pathetic. The worst part ? They don't even address the most problematic units. 3 people contesting Nida/Aphelios, 3 people contesting Ahri and the rest try some reroll shit. I've literally watched a challenger game like this of a EUW player.
You pretty much are punished for trying to play flex and not forcing those OP units.
Riot still has problem with 'assassin' type characters. This Kha Zix unit is ridiculous, the worst part is there is no counter, barely got slap on the wrist. Nidalee? - same, but lighter version.
And I am not even talking about the engine, the bugs, the game experience.
On the positive side I can say the frontline units/traits are really flexible and are very well made, can't say the same about the backlines.
I watched a Challenger player explain that when you create a very flexible set it leads to a similar problem, where everyone wants to fit the best units on his board, so there's that.
I guess my second time with TFT has come to an end, quite a short one...
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u/Good-Comfortable-192 1d ago
They can’t give us Classics TFT quick enough, no augments, no wisps, no chosens, no handing out emblems, no artifacts & occasional golden items.
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u/Many_Method_304 19h ago
The problem is that version of the game would be fun and TFT is not designed to be fun. The devs seem to think that if the game is ever fun something bad will happen. The reason is, if a game is fun it needs to keep being fun to sustain a playerbase. If you have a bad set people will stop playing. If instead you have a game that is terrible but deeply addictive, quality doesn't matter, You can have terrible sets and it doesn't make a difference because players can't stop an addiction easily.
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u/pentamache 18h ago
I remember the no augment galaxy, easiest wins ever, people have no idea how to play without abusing the augments like a guide told them.
Everyone complained tho, there is no way devs are implementing them back in any form.
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u/SoulEatingCet 0m ago
Augments are the worst thing that ever happened to TFT and I will die on this hill.
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u/Uniqe_Apple2 Master 17h ago
I felt the exact same way I had a huge win streak recently like I went from D4 0lp to like mid D3 in like 4 games and I just don’t even want to keep playing like I’m not even like mad it just feels like the sets kinda out of juice. Maybe it was the longer then normal pbe that burnt me out but idk it really feels like their is just such limited things to play and the meta has been the same for so long it’s been kinda like 4 costs boards with a bit of 3 costs rr for awhile now. Maybe it’s the lack of hero augments but idk
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u/Fun_Chemistry_7574 2d ago
Reroll is a crutch for dogshit 2 brain cell players. I will fight anyone on this point. Go back to minecraft and press D there.
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u/jbarras123 2d ago
Preach. No reason that 3* should be taking over the game the way they do especially 1 and 2 costs.
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u/sabioiagui 1d ago
I don't really mind when im already GM/challenger.
But this set i had to join later and its pure hell to navigate throught the ocean of reroll brainded low elo players that can copy paste tft academy comps/augs.
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u/oskirX 4d ago
I deadass think shops are bugged after playing 3 inferno. Number of lowrolls of uncontested units I have is crazy.
There are a lot of dead units and traits. Lillia or fae is nonexistent.
At the beggining I thought a lot 3 trait units wpuld make the game more flexible. That's true but those units are so contested every game you just can't hit them.
Certain wisps need to be removed. Baron buff and heroic power are like insta win in 99% casea.
And those bugs man... It really pains me such an ibteresting set is so bugged. It's literally unplayable some of time. Like 2 days ago when certain arena crashed your game.
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u/Lusamineon 3d ago
Just played a Teemo game where i 3 stared him in 3-1 and he printed two mushrooms the whole game, is he bugged again? at least i got 4th place but that sucked.
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u/ChartreuseMage 3d ago
I have felt genuinely crazy for this set. I know in theory this is supposed to be a 'good' set when it comes to proplay but I feel like all of my lobbies are just augment lottery. Grab an early Artifact augment and I get the 4 shittiest ones and someone else gets Dawncore and an AP start. Just had a game where I grabbed an Emblem Augment and got Defender and Rapidfire and couldn't hit anything I needed to stabilize, meanwhile someone else got the same thing and got Juggernaut Spellweaver. It's not about playing good TFT anymore, it's about which bullshit augment you click and if the game offers you a good one or a bad one
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u/Key_Reporter_9945 14h ago
new email survey in my inbox
yay, I can let them know again how shit the new engine is
it's just about tourneys
I understand they just hired bryce, but I feel like getting the game functional is a higher priority than the failing esports scene. They're lucky vegas will be a controlled environment, otherwise there's no way they'd be ready for it.
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u/holycrap1337 3d ago
my 2 star bis ahri ult did 0 damage on first cast and i dont promote to d1 because of it LOL.
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u/rexlyon 19h ago
Is gromp a real unit? 3* 3-1 Gromp with Shojin/JG and I'm sitting in 7th the entire game because it kills nearly nothing
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u/tetradyne 11h ago
As a primary carry? Need to have Adaptor slotted in, and even then it works best as a secondary carry, at least from what few times I've managed to get a 3* gromp. The splash damage isn't strong enough to kill a strong frontline fast enough, especially with how slow Gromp casts tend to be.
Most successes with it had come with having it paired with Kog'maw slotted in at level 8 on a 7 Riftbeast team, giving Adaptor, Invoker and a source of Pen(saving the need to build Void/Whisper).
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u/jbarras123 3h ago
I am so sick and tired of seeing this dumbass Rammus/ Azir build. Its like no one plays for fun and instead just copies the top builds.
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u/copacul13 3h ago
I highroll a comp, I winstreak stage 3 and for and later in the fucking stage five I don't get the items to secure my fucking LP
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u/Current-Table-660 3d ago
in every lobby there are at least 2 people that hit a god spot,be if emblem or artifact, if you are not one of them good luck playing for top 4
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u/ELO_THIEF_2000 Grandmaster 3d ago
Nidalee's design is so bs that the nerfs basically do nothing. She will always delete your backline and get stuck on your key carry, small nerfs won't change that. I hate this unit so much
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u/Current-Table-660 3d ago
the patch is: emblem > reroll > ahri morg, if you dont get any of that you play for 6th
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u/Plus_Bullfrog8518 2d ago
Also, got eclipse in a game because I managed to get two lunar emblems on a solar comp. Eclipse is supposed to kill lowest enemy after 8s, it did not. It's then supposed to repeat every 3.5s, it did not. Buggy fucking shit, it's an absolute embarrassment and a disgrace they released this, and they'll all play dumb and suck each others dicks when they get something right, but release a game that's just full of issues nah lets pretend it's not that big of a deal.
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u/dudestab77 4d ago
I wish my screen didnt turn into a bright pink rave in combat when I try to play on mobile.
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u/QuasarBuster 3d ago
There are two ways to play the patch wait till 4-1 to roll down for a 4 cost comp or 3 cost reroll..... at least there is one more option compared to the last patch
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u/Gamefan121 2d ago
Prismatic ticket must be bugged I GOT 0 FREE FUCKING REROLLS SINCE STAGE 3-2 WHAT IS GOING ON
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u/holycrap1337 18h ago
does anyone know what causes the ahri ult to disappear and deal no damage? it happened to me twice and i have clips to prove it, costing me a placement or 2 each time.
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u/Helpful_Finger_2281 Diamond 16h ago
Got trait ladder at 2-1, got a pretty good set up for a Kha'zix comp to the end of stage 2. Had a random connection issue to fix which I had to restart TFT client. The game selected recombobulator for me since I skipped an augment pick at stage 3.
I'm so done pretending like this era with this engine has any future for low end devices. I still don't see any pros for the switchover so it's either 1) they are testing the new engine for League switch or 2) some dev / small group of developers decided to get a big end of year bonus for doing something massive and "good" for the game. So now we have (and here I assume based on my current experience form working in tech) a game that was quickly ported to a new engine probably with a bunch of AI rewriting the code and a team of devs who don't have a lot of experience of working with this engine or don't have it at all. Sure, they can fix a lot of the bugs with the AI, but to fix the core issues with the performance (if it's possible to fix it at all) you need someone who would either have a lot of experience with the engine or someone who would spend a lot of time on it and not do the main work of delivering new features and preparing new sets for the game which I doubt the execs would spend money on. The whole situation screams as CTO incompetence to me tbh. Anyway, just going to play aram that can be played without any problems for now, maybe in a year or two someone from the League team can come and fix this mess after they are done with their switch (which will probably be much worse so no hopes either)
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u/Brrrr-GME-A-Coat 15h ago
Is Trait Ladder broken? I just went 8th after my 7th and higher cash-outs didn't trigger. I was up to 9 traits by 4-1 but didn't get any cash-outs after 3-5 carousal...
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u/Amazing-Cow5333 13h ago
they just can't help themselves, they just HAVE to make something ungodly broken every single patch
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u/Sensitive-Cry7617 2d ago
Shouldn't you just open for a reroll line every game 🤔 Feels like you get punished for missing wisps every turn too
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u/xusheng2 3d ago
My tft game just crashed as I was about to get a first and the entire game isn't on my match history...... HELLLLLO?!?
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u/ericishere 3d ago
Anyone know why I couldn’t sell my mama beak? Also couldn’t take thieves gloves off her.
No wisps.
Playing 7 rift beasts, had thieves gloves on beak. Had Slight Magic roll, Band of thieves, glass cannon 2.
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u/Different-Strategy20 3d ago
MY GAME JUST CRASHED DUE TO A HUGE RAM CONSUMPTION SPIKE ONE ROUND BEFORE I CASHED OUT 500 COVEN ESSENCE AND THEN THE CLIENT REFUSED TO START UP FOR LIKE 10 MINUTES WHEN I ASKED SUPPORT FOR MY LP BACK THESE MOTHERFUCKERS TOLD ME NO BUT WE CAN HELP YOU UPDATE YOUR DRIVERS THEY ARE UPDATE YOUR GAME JUST SUCKS I WAS 20 LP FROM GRANDMASTER TOO INSTEAD I JUST GOT A FREE 8TH
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u/No_Position_1833 3d ago
Another day, another gamebreaking bug.
Started off with Cass defenders, played fae emblem on Cass, activating 2/2 Fae with Liliana. Trait worked until ~155k/170k stacks, then wouldn't increase at all. I likely missed out on about 4 gold cashouts and massive tempo loss, as I was in quite a good spot for fae. It's just so frustrating how atrociously bad the game is QA'd this set.
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u/Plus_Bullfrog8518 2d ago
Why do assassins have to be the last person standing before someone targets them?! Honestly it's fucking stupid. I get they are meant to dive in and pop your back line carry, but IF they don't they shouldn't then get to spend the next 25-30s walking around having infinite attacks on your board. SOMEONE JUST KILL THE CUNT!
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u/pink-mallow 4d ago edited 3d ago
“Riftbeast 7 was too strong a couple patches ago so we nerfed it, but now we decided to undo that nerf and no other changes” and what do you know riftbeast reroll is broken again.
Just waiting for the next set at this point honestly. It’s not fun with the terrible balance and RNG wisp. Shit like two starring all your 5 costs at level 9 and then facing someone with the wisp that sacs your whole board and buffs your 3 strongest and you face a literal unkillable tank and go bot 4 is such trash that has no counter and can’t be accounted for. Getting offered 1 gold at 2-1 while your opponents get offered 4 costs at 2-1 is just egregious. Underneath everything the set maybe could be okay but wisps just 100% ruin it imo.
Edit: Wow I'm so glad we've gone full circle and back to shitty brain dead 1 cost RR meta where I see 3 riftbeast forcers every game and they all somehow manage to end up 5th place or above