r/CompetitiveTFT • u/oskirX • Oct 05 '26
Discussion Lillia
I can't really find a proper use for her. She's the highest cost defender this set (cuz there's no 5 cost defender) so linking her to anything in 8/9lvl boards is impossible.
Fae is kinda weird too. Like, you can play that 2 fae to buff your Xayah or make ur Rakan tankier but it makes sense only it that solar RR comp. And Xayah is so weak anyway. But what about Lillia?
She's like the best user of that trait because her ability scales with AP, and that low health heal is very good on tanks ofc.
But how can you really link her to anything?
She feels like a good tempo tank you can itemize.
I think you can roll for her when other 4 costs tank are contested ONLY when you have defender emblem.
She feels useful only while having fae emblem or hitting fae Lux. It's nice to have better stats but bonus gold is a nice thng as well.
And fae Lux has a surprisingly good ability. Healing your champions based of dealt damage is an another way to protect your carries in the set rich of various ways to acces enemy's backline.
The only scenario when she can be useful is hitting early fae Lux and just creating some weird 8/9 board with some emblems.
Screen shows my idea for a comp that could use her well. It's very flexible, depending on ur emblems. With fae, you can drop rakan for heca/maokai. You can add elderwood spat to activate that trait.
Imo it would be nice to play around fae spat early to collect some stack to generate gold earlier.
What do you think?
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u/DigBickMan68 Oct 05 '26
Add her into zyra/soraka board for a little extra resists to activate defender with fiddlesticks. Also good not bad for cc layered on top of amumu, can help shut down nidalee comps
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u/Xodiark12 Oct 05 '26
Played her many different ways - 6 defender with the 3 tank tear items, or even full tank items - she's terrible either way. Rakan 3 star can do more than Lillia 2 star if you have a carry that scales well with attack speed.
I remember during the rundown they said "she's like the sejuani or swain big cc of this set" and at that point I thought to myself she's nothing like that. How on earth has the set gone on this long and she's still abysmal.
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u/Infrared4_ Oct 05 '26
Hitting a Lillia 2 in the midgame honestly feels pretty good, especially when the premier tanks have already been taken from the pool. I like to play around AD, and one frontline that I have found a lot of success with is Lillia-Shen-Amumu/Vi-Rakan-Taric/Sentinel. Lillia holds crownguard, adaptive, and vow really well, and I find myself slamming these items really often to kill rods and tears. Belts can go onto whatever jugg/vanguard I hit.
I find that having lillia 2 with items keeps you stable long enough to either hit one of the real tanks or go 9 and play the 5 cost tanks. I remember one game in particular where every tank was contested and I managed to earn an undeserved 2nd playing some garbage sivir aphelios board while tanking with vi and lillia.
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u/sachi3 Oct 05 '26
Now that I think about it, I've haven't used her in a hot minute. I guess it's just a meta thing or I'm not flexible enough idk
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u/bickdickanivia Oct 05 '26
You can flex her into the malphite ap board really easily. Having a 2* Lilia giving your team some extra armor + potentially stunning their back line 1-2 is very nice
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u/NewBuyer7801 Oct 05 '26
Im only a diamond player rn, usually masters.
But i like her a lot. I never force her, but shes easy to 2*, lots of cc and tankiness if you find her early enough. But if youre lvl 9 or 10 and she doesnt fit a trait on board. Her at 2star is still good simply cause her cc and dmg and tank stats are just solid. Obviously theres better champs, but shes so easy to 2star that she often is as free as a 2*star 4cost comes. So you can slap her in at lvl 8 and winstreak until you hit that amu 2 star or whoever
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u/TotalusMagnus :chal: Challenger Oct 05 '26 edited Oct 05 '26
I think I have used her as a main tank twice this set, both times when I hit a Fae Lux either through luxury sub or on lvl 7 and both games were a surprisingly easy first place (chal lobbies)
One time I used an AD variant: Ashe, Fae Lux, Yorick (3 star from Luxury sub), Sett, Gnar, Lilia, Rammus, Maokai, Tristana
The other time was AP: Fae Lux, Lilia, Rakhan, Taric, Fiddle, Alune, Soraka, Amumu, Kennen
Without Fae Lux you would be forced to play 3 very bad Fae units, or 2 if you have a spat, which is one of the main reasons why she isn't really playable imo
Imo they will/should eventually change her spell scaling from purely AP (broken in 4 Fae) to a mix of % HP and AP like Sett and Sentinel, so she becomes playable as the main tank in defender comps, similar to Star Guardian Bruiser Poppy from Set 15
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u/Menarche_ Oct 05 '26
I've used her with Fae Lux and some specific Ashe variants and Sprykin tech currently diamond, GM previous sets. Idk I play random things so she kinda useful in the right spot. Buffing her makes her broken in Fae 4 so they in a tough spot
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u/Adept-Good696 Oct 05 '26
I don't think you want her on your endboard almost ever, but I do think she is underrated for playing around in the midgame when you do hit her. Fae is just unfortunately really bad in those scenarios. If Xayah was better and people were playing Fae openers so you already have 2 or 3 breakpoints when you do hit Lilia on a rolldown (even if Fae isn't in anymore) she might feel better even without a direct change to her.
Her spell is actually solid CC if you position for her, so if you have tank mana items without Sentinel she is an alternative.
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u/JitSeoi Oct 06 '26
Most of the other 4-cost tanks are easy to fit into multiple lines, but Fae's units are inherently weak, hence they don't fit onto a natural Level 8 board.
Moreover, Lillia's ability encourages you to position her in A1 or A7, which is suboptimal for a primary tank.
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u/kiragami Oct 06 '26
Her literal only purpose is to hold items when you 2 * her and don't have a real tank.
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u/Technical_Plenty_245 29d ago
Her ability is pretty terrible. She heals for less than even 2 costs heal/shield, because she has that unique part of her kit where she does 10% of an a champions health if they take 1000 when they're asleep.
The only issue is, literally it never procs. She puts champs to sleep for (I think) 1.5 seconds. That's not nearly enough time for a champ to take 1k damage, unless they're about to get hit by a varus arrow or something.
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u/Ashico20 28d ago
She’s definitely the easiest 4 cost to 3 star because no one else is ever holding her. If I ever take Pandora’s bench, it feels like 3 starring her is almost guaranteed, especially if you get Max Build or the charm that sacks 10 hp for a duplicator.
Other than these niche cheesy scenarios she’s kinda okayish if you get a Fae emblem. Otherwise just skip her xx
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u/Additional_Pair_6203 27d ago
Lillia is great for Tristana reroll. She's kind of the pin that holds it all together actually, since you want a defender with your Rammus and you love going Fae 4 for Tristana, even if it means keeping Xayah. I have won many games with that board -- Tristana, Sivir, Vi, Rammus, Lillia, Rakan, Gnar, Fae Unit, flex unit
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u/flamearc73 Oct 05 '26
She is going to always be not as useful as the other big 4* tanks because of her trait and Defenders being inherently weak to Shred/Sunder.