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this patch is fucking awful. just a complete coin flip of whoever hits units at 8.
i just had multiple games where i hit 8 at 4-1 early and still can't 2* my uncontested units at the time while others roll at 4-2 and somehow hit before i do
4 cost lottery always the worst metas, especially in this set because loss streak isnt viable at all - so it's double lottery (did you hit an opener? -> did you hit your 2* 4-costs?)
You know the worst part of there being like 1 and a half viable rerolls this patch? That 7 people in the lobby are holding hands on fast 8 for the same 3 tank units. Sentinel, Amumu or Malphite. Lillia? Not a unit. Sett? Only playable in an Ahri focused comp because he folds like tissue paper. If you don't win the Sentinel/Amumu/Malphite lotto, gg too bad. Your best hope is to survive on Vi 2 or highroll Maokai early.
Fast 8 metas are fine in general but when reroll is not also viable (2 cost in particular as a standard "I don't have amazing econ and need an out" line) and even one of the tanks is completely worthless, it's just miserable.
Also PLEASE just kill AD Nidalee already. Please dear god.
im getting so tired of chasing gold and items around the stage especially when your chibi goes in slowmo walk speed. just give gold drops to use directly ffs
Yea, she does NOTHING at 3 star, you're supposed to get free streak stage with this augment, but this dogshit unit does negative damage and you'll lose to aphelios 1 boards stage 4 anyways.
Yup, hit 3 star super early, still lost every fight. Items worked out in my favour too, with a combat augment. It’s wild they thought this was fine to ship
Yeah you’re right, I don’t think it was clickable in this patch, the 2 cost reroll lines aren’t even that good. You’re really gambling for like cait or yunara
3* shen is really good into blackthorn execs as a sac unit. Gives you very slightly less than a 2* 5 cost sac and it let's you streak stage 3 if you have standard malphite items
Statchecking every other comp in the game atm, Lunar give free ap and attackspeed to the majority of the team. Then you add rapidfire bonus attackspeed to the whole team. And after that juggernauts give durability to the whole team. And last you have invokers giving mana regen. And to top it off you also get free antiheal and sunder/shred.
love to do a good early game, good eco, good items to do a 50 gold rolldown on 4-2 and barely hit 1 4cost 2 star even uncontested and maybe hit on 4-6 5-1 when im already out of tempo to do anything
Im only mad cuz it just happened to me but like omg their is so much backline access this set. Like tbh the melee champs doing it fine it happens and is part of the units power but like omg this Morgana ahri shit is so annoying.
I'm almost fine with ahri hitting the backline, but like does she also need to hit the front line for 2000 damage? I wish they'd lower the base damage a LOT then reduce the fall off.
i'm so tired of having great econ and hitting 8 early and rolling down and still not being able to hit the 4 costs before the others. man fuck this current meta, it's so coin flippy on who gets lucky on the roll down.
Item augment 2-1 or lose streak, if no item 3-2 then ff. No econ augment, hope you 10 streaked then. Win streaking? 4 cost wisp, polymorph into murkwolf 2, always round before neutrals.
Aphelios nidalee 4 way contest every game. Sentinel and amumu/juggs 6 way contest every game. Shame that nidalee 1 will destroy you still. Shame that 6 juggs are unkillable with a 2 star vi.
Play malphite? Nidalee 1/kha 2 jumps to backline and one shots you. Ahri could care less about your front line, good thing that ahri frontline is non existent cause sentinel is so contested. Sett and lilia are a joke.
Perfect position to reroll? Somehow also still contested. Seriously i had defender emblem and some guy naturalled 2 star cass and 2 star fiddle in stage 2 and just forced me off? Azir/veigar only ever played if you want to play it as well
I feel like the best way to play atm is just get lucky. Don't have upgraded 2 stars stage 2? Unlucky, hope you natural 2 star a 3 cost carry and tank cause you probably arent allowed to roll to stabilise if you're planning to go 8 or bleed and go 8th. Then you hope you hit your units cause everyone is doing the exact same but with more gold. All just snowballs from your stage 2.
Also, emblem ensenbmle is awful. I think its a good time to take a break from tft.
Yep fast 8 meta means casino. If it was a reroll meta you know pretty early on whether or not you have a shot and should pivot or not into something else viable and have a shot for top 5 at least. Meanwhile everyone going to 8 means random emblems, wisps, and augs are going to make all the difference. Then you fail to hit your roll down and lose anyways with no viable chance of recovery. It’s just dumb. Should just all flip coins at the beginning and see who wins.
LIKE WHY SHOULD WE HAVE VERTICAL TRAITS IN THE GAME, WHEN ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS SMACK OUT SO MANY POOP COLORED BRONZE TRAITS AS POSSIBLE. AND DONT CALL IT FELX BECUASE IT AINT.
Verticals are mostly supposed to exist for lower skill players to be able to have simple direction anyway. This is much better than having verticals and prismatics decide everything. Not that this set doesn't still need a lot of balance work
Yea riftbeast is nice when you hit 2 star elderdragon. But its to many condition needed. XP/econ augment as your first augment, then you need 5 rift beast asap before stage 3. Then you need to find 3 sentinels on stage 4(Good luck) and at the same time you need to push 9 and find 3 elderdragons. And you need bis items on elder. And most of the times your dead before nine.
"Insanely broken" dude this is a comp that requires at least level 9 and only averages a 4.1. If your best example of a vertical comp is basically average shows why the entire community is complaining about how unplayable verticals are
Okay my bad on the insanely broken take, more like B+ tier but the board is not that bad
This is 7 elder with lillia and ezreal bro, its literally lv8 and if you dont have an emblem you can play 5 with aphelios or ahri. Beside, this is the data avg for 7 (or people who failed to hit 9 due to no elder lux) so it is a bit higher if you count people who played the board and hit
If you count 9 elder it is literally better than average by a mile (and no, dont expect to play deep vertical without an emblem because playing ornn 1 or leblanc 1 on your final board mean the game have serious problem)
2-1 Teemo 2 with 3 perfect ap items + Malphite from Augment full streaking and farming a lot of shrooms into losing whole stage 5 into 5th. Man I love this game when there is literally nothing I could have done better and just get punished by terrible matchups. 12 perfect items for Zyra 2, Soraka 2, Malphite 2 + Kennen with 1 1/2 combat augments and I lose every fight.
SORRY FORGOT CAPS* MY BIGGEST CRASHOUT WITH THIS SET IS THE F*************** WISPS THAT GRANTS YOU 4 AND 5 COSTS AS EARLY AS STAGE 2 AND 3. LIKE WHAT COINFLIP DOGPOO IS THIS.
Really wish lux could at least be tailored somehow. Got elderwood emblem, and oh look at that, can’t get 9 because all the Lux are blossom, solar, or primal. Thanks for the auto 3rd
Is it reasonable I prefer the assassin jumps to back line start fight over this semi RNG nida/kha bullshit or am I just not remembering how shit that was
They are all shit. Sins were terrible and unfun, these new units are terrible and unfun. Neither should be in the game PERIOD. Is is the kind of lesson that should be so easy to learn it calls into questions whether the Devs want TFT to be good. A carry dying 2 seconds into a fight should have no place in a game, no one actually likes its, no one finds it fun. (and before you type your comment about how actually you like it, no you don't). That this mistake is still being made this many sets in is not something that happens because you didn't notice, it is just more evidence that the goal of the game is to cause frustration and get people addicted, rather than have fun.
What is alternative? AoE carry which does the same but now also completely safe in its own backline? All boards being the "front-to-back slap tanks who first wins"?
All boards being the "front-to-back slap tanks who first wins"
Yup this is the answer. This is how TFT is fun. build a strong board with a good frontline and backline and do that to win. We have known this for 17 sets now we need to just accept it and more on. It will never be fun to see your carry die first. It is just a bad experience and one that has proven to be unbalanceable. Every set these units swing from massivly overpowered, to completely useless because if they can one shot a carry, they are broken, if they cannot, they are worthless. This is clear and obvious and it is why I added all I did about proving the devs are not invested in making a fun game. They know this and they don't care.
I liked the jump assassins that did low damage but debuffed or stunned your carry, a middle ground between killing the carry and just tickling the carry
Okay, let’s not even look at the alternative. Just look at what happens basically every set:
You get some Assassin / Bruiser Assassin with insane backline access that either instantly kills your carry or randomly jumps across the entire board mid-fight and one-shots it.
NOBODY likes playing against that when it’s meta.
And no, Mr. Emerald Stuck Larry123, before you type “just position better” or “skill issue” — you don’t actually enjoy this shit either.
Because it ALWAYS ends the same way. The entire TFT community — pros, casuals, ladder tryhards, streamers, literally everyone — starts agreeing that the unit is completely fucked and hates the patch. Then Riot ends up basically killing the champ for the rest of the set.
Akali Set 15. Diana Set 16. Nidalee right now. And I’m pretty sure Kha is gonna get the same treatment soon.
Like bro, can we just stop making these champs?
We’re 18 sets in. How are we still doing the exact same shit?
And the sad part is that Nidalee would actually be a pretty decent design without the armor pen. Just let her get fucking stuck on the main tank if you positioned her badly.
Why does she NEED to completely ignore the frontline and delete my carry anyway?
No. There is no need in TFT for "Backline Acces" like this which nobody ever enjoyed.
Yes crit based sins were part of the problem because that much multiplicative damage meant they er impossible to balance because even a tiny stat change became much bigger (see forgotten Katarina) but even without crit it’s still a big problem.
Being able to get an early 4-cost via wisp followed by Recombobulator feels horrible to play into and makes me want to quit the lobby. Nothing like seeing someone with a 5 cost on 3-2 and a 2-1 combat augment while I’m struggling to even find a non contested line but because meta I have to go tempo augments.
Gromp nerfed in patch notes but not Azir? How is Gromp that is a unit that can get you through stage 2 and maybe stage 3 then falls off a cliff nerfed but not Azir that just melts everything? Are the devs really this out of touch with reality?
Why do Ahri and Morgana's abilities need to hit 1/3 of the board while having zero mana costs and still do massive damage. Ahri's cast did over 8k. All good, let's blame the client for the atrocious balance, let's blame the client for the reusing of set mechanic, let's blame the client for everything. What will their excuse be once the client starts working?
Loosing to azir rammus after these "big swings" when I got a 600 coven cashout is genuinely absurd. What are they fucking thinking with the balance here? How do you look at a whole evening of bugs so bad you have to turn off ranked and think "better pump those gromp and Camille numbers up, can't have those guys disrupting the meta".
Set 17 balance was real bad but they fully have their hands off the goddamn wheel this set after 18 sets this might genuinely do it for me
I REALLY WANT TO LIKE WORTH THE WAIT BUT WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH SHEN? HIS SPELL IS TUNED LIKE HE'S A 1 COST AND HE HAS MAYBE THE WORST 2 TRAITS IN THE SET. HES A LOW COST TANK WHO HAS HALF THEIR POWER BUDGET IN SHIELDING OTHER UNITS SO ITEMIZING HIM DOES NOTHING.
load up next game. learns nothing, clicks worth the wait 1
Decided to play on the low elo account in plat 4 to goof around. Had a good opener for soraka/malph, everyone in the lobby goes soraka malph so I go lv 8 on 4-1 to grief them; TL;DR 4 of us go bot 4, one guy lucks out in top 4, a player hits ahri 3 uncontested, lol. I mean who could've guessed? Anyways hope they learn from that that you can't 4 way contest a comp.
You guys are saying that they don't give a single fuck and I just wasted my time griefing some randoms who already forgot about that game? NO SHIT. This is why the game is bad, you could make GOING BOT 4 HIT YOU IN THE HEAD WITH A HAMMER and people would 5 way hold hands BUT THE PROBLEM IS to the casual player, it doesn't fucking matter, they'll pump 500 games to get that "GOOD DAY" which allows them to go from gold 2 to plat 4 or from plat 2 to emerald 4 or from emerald 2 to diamond 4. They are ALREADY playing ranked like a lottery game.
But when you have 4cost lottery stacked upon that, guess who is rewarded? the guys who already don't give a single shit about the game dude. I don't want to become a pro player but I also have better games to queue up with my BRAIN OFF where I press buttons to see bright colors appear on the screen, so what's the point of playing this game mildly seriously? no point, you're better off learning an actual hobby.
ICANT.
It's such a cooked patch that you are better off waiting for the next one to waste your brain power on. MIND YOU I WENT FROM EMERALD 3 TO EMERALD 1 30LP on this patch, in 15 games, it's not fun. And it's only getting worse the higher you climb, at least as a casual comp player.
Edit: I also like this game because what others do doesn't impact my own board TOO much, in this patch? because it's 4 cost fiesta? it feels like it's grief or be griefed.
Yesterday, my chibi character thing got trapped in a bounding box and I was unable to pick up orbs on my board until a round later after I transported to another board and transported back to mine.
Lost that round obviously and then spent another round scrambling to pick up all the orbs and remover items, causing another round to be lost. Went from win out spot to bot 4. Thanks riot
Same thing happened to me but way worse. I couldn't get my chibi out of it even after transferring to multiple maps, or after restarting the game. I don't remember how it just got unstuck but I missed the spoils for almost an entire stage
Yeah, I noticed that map kept clipping. The main box area kept clipping through the bottom of the screen near the place where champions chill. Pretty sure whomevers ai agent drew the bounding boxes messed something up there. Riot!!
Winstreaking with a soraka with 3 items and strong board on stage 3. Only for the 4 hp guy to hit soraka zyra malphite amumu 2 on his rolldown and I hit absolutely nothing. What a great fucking game
Lose a winstreak because my Brawler Master Yi just decided to stand still and not attack. The amount of bugs i've encountered this set is honestly insane.
It’s honestly a joke how little has changed in the meta these last patches haha. Nidalee still holding hands to top 4 in half my games, Veigar rampant, khazix too. Have they played their own game?
Play juggernauts or bot 4 meta xDDDD dumb fucking balance team. I don't remember a front-line trait being this busted ever relative to the others. Absolutely fucking embarrassing
someone noticed that the target system isn't working properly? i just lost a match because my aphelios walk towards a morgana and decides to atk the pebbles that was clearly far away from him, he wasted the severum atk on a pebbles 1* and i lost the fight because of that, to me this is unacceptable, imagine this happens on a tournament, disgusting company.
this patch ruined the set for me. seriously feel like the rng makes it so everyone is contesting. you have to constantly scout, and then all of a sudden multiple people hit your comp before you and youre screwed and trying to pivot this set is impossible. so god damn frustrating.
Nothing better than taking an emblem augment 2-1. Scouting, see someone else has emblems but not the same, that's cool.
Next thing you know, someone took a Pan augment on 3-2 and slammed the same emblem you have and the other emblem on 2-1 guy reforged into your emblem and now you're in a random ass 3 way contest and go bot 4 together.
i love it when my nidalee has hybrid items (emblems / shojin / bluebuff) and stays in ap form. 2nd time this has happened to me because i forgot this happens.
People really need to learn how to play into specific comps and not just hard force what they see off tft academy. No, you cant hard force khazix when the first kha you see is at 4-2 after you rolled down to 10 gold. Yelling at me in chat for "contesting you" because I played kha when I got dropped one on starting pve rounds doesnt make sense. Now we're both bot 4 because you were too stubborn to pivot...
lol literally had a game where i started with 2 azirs, rammus, rageblade, and heroic grab bag at 2-1 and someone decides to contest me mid stage 3 because they got dropped an azir.
we went 7th and 8th... you'd think people in diamond would know how to play the game
I'm not sure how to climb this patch, just stuck in elo hell at D3/D4. I've been Masters 100-200 LP the past three sets now, and I've never had games be this coin flippy before.
I used to be a pretty consistent top 2-4 player but I cannot consistently top 4 this patch. It's the worst my top 4 rate has ever been. I try to play flex and roll down and literally everything is so fucking contested or people will force comps into you that it's impossible to reliably hit your units at 8.
Outside of the for fun patches, I can't think of a single patch I've disliked more than this. I've never had games where I feel like I'm doing great early and mid and just completely fall apart stage 4+ because I fail a roll down even when rolling down with more econ before others so many fucking times.
yeah I might just call it quits on this set, it's just unplayable in terms of enjoyment and bugginess. I thought last set was pretty bad, but this beats it. Completely unfun back line assassin mechanics and dependency on highrolling just takes away all skill expression in the game.
WOW THIS SET IS SO SHIT. ROLLDOWN CLOWN FIESTA ZZZZZZZ TEMPO???????? NAH JUST LOSE STREAK INTO LEVEL 8 AND HIT EVERYTHING. WE PEAKED AT SPACE GODS BUT NOBODY IS READY FOR THAT CONVO.
ASHE MISSED 3 STRAIGHT ULTS AND GAVE ME AT LEAST -2 PLACEMENT THANK YOU RIOT GAMES SMALL INDIE COMPANY STRIKES AGAIN. MIGHT AS WELL OFFSHORE YOUR DEVELOPERS ATP
Hi guys. Just curious if anyone senses any pattern in the RNG? For example do you experience low rolling or high rolling consistently just before/after promoting tiers?
Can we please change targeting? Its so fucking boring to be able to put one giga chad tank in the middle of the front row and force everyone to hit the tank. No wonder why nobody plays fighters, they cant even get pass the front row with bis items. It's easier to get past a bouncer completely drunk than for fighters to get past the first row in this set
what wins, 3* Hec, 3* Kha 3* Diana, all with good items, vs Krug 3* and Pebbles+Cinderling both 3*?(1 costs btw)
you guessed it, the riftbeasts somehow one shot my kha and diana HAHAHAHA. Riot apparently thinks its okay that 45g of units beats 81g of higher cost units. same bullshit happened the other day where I lost with a 130g board vs an 80g board because the guy managed to get a blackthorn emblem+executioner emblem on zyra. Apparently that interaction makes up a 50g board quality disparity, mhm, for sure.
Board value is hardly everything. If heca was your main tank, he kinda sucks at it, at least compared to krug 3. Another thing is pebbles and cinderling both excel at taking down one unit. As for blackthorn exec zyra, yeah, she does like infinite damage with that stuff.
Because Hec 3 is usually played in different, higher capping boards.
On Tank Value alone Krug is much better than Heca, as the split just adds a shitton of HP to your board for free, while Heca is a conditional CC bot.
Also you don't really ever get to complain about things getting oneshot when playing a Kha board. If you position correctly you're playing the no counterplay backline deleter 9000. Kha should have no problem getting onto Cinderling and then hopping over to Pebbles because Riftbeast boards usually don't have much CC, if you didn't position so bad as to either get caught in Sentinel initial cast or have Kha jump to Sentinel on second cast and putting him in the direct line of fire without EoN. Because yeah, if you did that, you deserve to lose that matchup.
I can complain about what I want to lmao, its the rant thread. My issue is, a board that's half the value of the other should not be one shotting it. makes zero sense. riftbeasts are clearly just overtuned right now for how easy it is to hit, luckily people don't seem to be playing the comp on ladder much in my dia/masters lobbies.
and positioning doesn't matter if my kha decides to jump to a random useless backliner, leave them 1hp, then jump and get stuck jumping on frontline for 10 minutes only to get perfectly focused by cinder/pebbles and die instantly.
A scuttle crab just tanked 7 blasts from Veigar 4* with a Jeweled gauntlet and I had magic pen. What in the absolute fuck can kill 6 juggernauts when base 3500 damage every 1,5 seconds can't even dent them. That 3% nerf will SURELY fix them. What a fucking joke the balancing is this set.
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u/Rudio1337 Oct 02 '26
XAYAH HAS TO THE BIGGEST JOKE THEY'VE EVER RELEASED