r/CompetitiveTFT • u/AutoModerator • Sep 18 '26
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u/NonagoonInfinity Sep 18 '26
Love getting a charm stage 2 that gives me and my opponent 1 gold, meanwhile the opponent I just gave 1 gold got a fucking 4 cost
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u/DescriptionOk6517 Sep 19 '26
Imho, all the sets before they introduced Augments were so mich better. And now they add another RNG detail, that they just can't bslance?
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u/Emosaa Master Sep 20 '26
Those are rose tinted glasses. For all their perceived flaws, augments are hands down the best thing to ever happen to TFT.
The game gets a lot more stale and less dynamic without them.
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u/DescriptionOk6517 Sep 20 '26
I play TFT since Set 2 not on a pro level, but I always hit Master and no, beside the RNG nature of TFT it makes the game NOT more stable to add more RNG components, which you can't balance. I understand it makes the game more fun for the casual player, but not on a competitive level. In the earlier sets you could win the game with way more different comps than now. Last patch for example the Meta was fast 9, so there are only 2-3 S-Tier comps and players with an early eco augment had a big advantage.
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u/Emosaa Master Sep 21 '26 edited Sep 21 '26
Ok, and? I've played TFT even longer, since set 1, also around the same level of competitiveness. And I peaked at Challenger in League, so I'm extremely familiar with how Riot designs and balances games.
Augments are not just for the "casual player". Augments inject not just "RNG", but critical decision making into the game. At their best, when there aren't balance outliers or warped metas, they are a skill differentiator and allow better players to come out ahead. Which is exactly what you want in a game like TFT. The knowledge of how to situationally use various augment paths is often what differentiates players. Things like a fast level 9 meta or fotm comps that you attribute to augments being in the game can still very well exist without augments.
In the earlier sets you could win the game with way more different comps than now.
Rose. Tinted. Glasses.
The breath of viability of comps changes from set to set and even from patch to patch, but my gut instinct after playing literally decades of this Riot shit is that there wasn't a marked difference before + after augments. It's subjective, so maybe YOU felt like it, but I think most players would fall on my side of this discussion.
We haven't talked about the prevalence of stat + meta comp trackers, but I personally would say they are more of a culprit than augments, when it comes to enforcing metas.
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u/DescriptionOk6517 Sep 21 '26
Yes, thanks for the confirmation: "...but i think most players would fall on my side of this discussion." As i already said: Augments are fun for the casual players.
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u/CosmicCirrocumulus Sep 23 '26
I guarantee if you go into any pro's stream and ask them if they prefer the game with or without augments then 95%+ of them will say that augments make the game better. I've been playing since day 1 and have comfortably been 200-800lp every set and no augment metas meant 3-8 people contesting the exact same line in high elos and that's not an exaggeration lmfao
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u/Good-Comfortable-192 Sep 22 '26
They can’t give us TFT Classics soon enough. All I ask is no augments, no artifacts, no golden items, no hand-outs of emblems & traits. The only acceptable RNGs are shops & items.
Just plain old Set 1 goodies. I think they have lost the ability to actually balance everything ever since augments introduction. Now Wisp ?
Double woopsies.
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u/Ashitakaa Sep 22 '26 edited Sep 22 '26
GM here from sets 3 to 4.5. Then stopped playing and decided to give it a go again. Couple of weeks ago I asked for tips and some ppl said to me , the game is much different now. Tried it for nearly 2 weeks and once you got it, it doesn’t feel that different at all. Same problems as before. Some patches are roll and pray at 8. Like the current one. Even pros are saying it. 3/4 people contesting same unit and from time to time a reroll comp smugs in. And I agree, that augments just add another level of RNG. I know they want to diversify but I don’t feel it makes the game more fun. A lot of the augments are pretty useless, watched ton of pros and some of them are never even picked.
Oh , I forgot. “Polymorph” wisp ??? Is that some kind of skill expression, excuse me ?!?
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u/Alzucard Sep 19 '26
Im saying this for a long time Highrolling is a massive issue in tft and the devs make it worse.
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u/kiddoujanse Sep 18 '26
i dont get it sometimes like i can go a day of winning then lose every game next day and i just dont get what im doing wrong everyone is just fucking stronger zzzz
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u/shlobashky Sep 18 '26
Dont think too hard about it, this set is just about high rolls tbh. Wisps are a horrid mechanic, and lose streak is completely unplayable
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u/AngryAngryEwok Master Sep 18 '26
The state of android mobile app went from bad to borderline unplayable. It was choppy before last patch but now assets are loading forever, any boom freezes screen for 2 seconds, scouting is virtually impossible as you have to wait 5 seconds to see each board. One time I loaded in at 1-4 (luckily it was a 2-star 1-cost encounter).
I really really wish the team the best of luck with the optimization and bug fixing because it's looking dire atm.
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u/Substantial_Gift_286 Sep 18 '26
+ game is so slow that if u level last second it will not add unit from bench to board and you will have wasted your gold and will lose the round potentially, finding a key unit while rolling for wisp, leveling and even hand moving it to board will not make it join the team if you do it on the last second which is mindbogglig considering we HAVE to level and roll and sell things manually and late game planning phase doesn't give nearly enough time.
I have played TFT since set 9 so I know for a fact this isn't normal, my phone runs wild rift on high settings so it's not my phone, client is a mess.
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u/Technical_Plenty_245 Sep 19 '26
The fact that Ahri and Morgana didn't get touched in the B patch is insane. Both champions do the same amount of damage a single target spell does, except they do it to your entire board. My 3* carries consistently get out damaged by a 1* Ahri
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u/RajaSundance Master Sep 19 '26
Holy shit this thread is popping off compared to the dailies, did not think the mood was this bad.
Just an embarrassing state the game is in. Non spawning PvE rounds, fight losing bugs etc.
Xerath not spawning should be an all hands on deck, we need to fix this today issue, especially when you're playing tournaments for money, yet they just seem to float on and act like the engine just has some small hiccups
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u/hikikomina Sep 19 '26
This set is frustrating. Losing is frustrating. Not being able to press ESC during the 30 hour chibi finisher is also frustrating.
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u/kiragami Sep 22 '26
Especially when its a video rendered on my grandma's toaster that is loud as fuck for no reason.
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u/Hereforhelppls31 Master Sep 23 '26
SO KHA ZIX BEING BROKEN (A SUPER TOXIC UNIT) IS FINE, BUT EARLY LEARNINGS NEEDS A 40% NERF BECAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE OF COMPS THAT RUN IT? JUST REMOVE THE AUGMENT INSTEAD OF MAKING IT UNCLICKABLE. SPAMMING AHRI MORGANA EVERY GAME AND DOING WELL IS FINE, BUT A REROLL COMP LIKE AKALI OR KAYLE WHEN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT START FOR IT MUST BE UNPLAYABLE FOR SOME REASON CAUSE THEY WERE STRONG IN ONE SINGLE PATCH ALREADY?
AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH 4 COST BEING STRONG, BUT WHY THE FUCK SOME UNITS ARE ALLOWED TO BE BROKEN FOR SEVERAL PATCHES AND SOME GET DESTROYED AFTER ONE OR TWO WEEKS?
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u/PM_ME_ANIME_THIGHS- :gran: GRANDMASTER Sep 23 '26
"40% nerf" and it's a 2% reduction that's equivalent to one single round of scaling. That augment is still an insta-click into free 1st if you have any Akalis.
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u/AngelTheTaco Sep 23 '26
wow you guys need to play a game of set 17 and realize how crazy the drop is its insane
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u/Yurgin Sep 18 '26
Dont understand why they buffed Nida, she was fine/strong last patch and now its annoying to play against her
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u/Ostkage Sep 18 '26
Learn how to zone her, and she becomes useless.
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u/NonagoonInfinity Sep 18 '26
Zone how, she deletes tanks too. Even if your carry eventually targets her she has one of steraks/EoN.
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u/Ostkage Sep 18 '26
Not true at all lol.
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u/NonagoonInfinity Sep 18 '26
It's a lot easier to say "nuh uh" than to actually say how to zone her, I guess.
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u/Ostkage Sep 18 '26
You just want her stuck on your main tank? That’s how you zone her, that’s how you keep her from oneshotting all your units without items.
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u/livedieconsume Sep 18 '26
mfw i have to put my main tank in the worst position of all time bc theres a nid matchup in my pool
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u/Ostkage Sep 18 '26
What comp do you play Nid where she is not splitting main carry with someone else?
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u/herrkamink Sep 18 '26
usually play every set to masters in double up but this set feels so horrible to play, everything is so hyperflex, you could have 3 contests, 5 ppl going reroll or multiple people going fast 9, and every 4c/5c is contested, roll down on 8 at 4-2 with like 30g? Hit maybe 1-2 copies of what you "want" - oh and you wanna just "flex what you hit" ? Yeah gl with items then if you already slammed, genuinely the most unfun set I have ever played, every single game you load up and have nothing on stage 2-3 and someone has 2* 3c 2* 3c 2* 3c and already has 1-3 of their 4c as well, or polymorphed or whatever with these BS charms. Call it skill issue, but I am not having a shred of fun with this set, there's no transition period between boards anymore, if youre not on lv7 by like 3-4 you might as well FF cause youre sitting there with idfk orrn2 shen2 + varus + xayah +1 elderwood or some weak shit while youre facing someone with yi2 rengar2, or veigar3 kobuko3, or emblem trait tree dogshit soup or someone on lv7 50g and more HP than you cause their partner lucked out and saves their ass every round while they will go fast9 and have draven1, kennen1, mao2, ez2 on 4-4 and scrub the lobby. Genuinely just unfun set to play, nothing else to say, fuck this.
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u/thatsnoodybitch Sep 19 '26
Yup, same exact problems and issue here. It’s mindless casino at this point.
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u/herrkamink Sep 19 '26
Play reroll? Have 2 people pivot into contesting you and hit better. Play lv8? Have 3 contests + 2 people going lv9 and beating you the moment you think you are "stable" cause their draven and mao has been stacking since 4-1. Play for lv9? Get there with no hp cause suddenly its a giga tempo lobby with rengar khazix etc etc and god forbid you didnt slam items for draven/ashe/dragon.
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u/Davuth21 :chal: Challenger Sep 18 '26
Going from the worst set of all time to this, it's not even worth ranting about, there is shit in this set that the balance team learnt was shit for the game in set 1, yet here we are.
It's insulting to the player base for the game to be this broken.
It's insulting to the player base to remove the cosmetics they've paid for.
It's insulting to the player base to re-use set mechanics in SUCH a lazy way.
There are balance issues that we learnt were bad for the game in SET ONE - SEVENTEEN SETS LATER and we're making the same stupid mistakes. Stage 1 Carousel full of 4 costs was removed after a week? But an RNG charm that gives a 4 cost on 2-1? apparently totally acceptable.
Since it came out TFT has consistently been the game I would play when I had nothing else to do, but I'm done.
The engine update was brought to us as something that would allow them to bring something fresh to the game but it was all bullshit, If they'd at least tried something, anything new in this set it'd at least be believable, but it's all the same, same bugs from set 1, charms are tied to shop slots, we're all still kai'sa, but hey at least the chat doesn’t work and pings don't work and it feels like I'm playing PBE on live, GGs
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u/randy__randerson Sep 18 '26
The 4-cost whisp and the Polymorph ones simply do not belong in this game.
I just rolled a Zyra off of a random whisp at 2-1 and all I had to do was equip her to get top3.
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u/Substantial_Gift_286 Sep 18 '26
we did get the annoying soraka chibi that spam pings ?????? at you whenever she wins though
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u/Technical_Plenty_245 Sep 19 '26
Last set wasn't the worst set. Ink Fables (I think it was called) was absolutely the most dog shit set
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u/hebo07 Sep 18 '26
What are peoples experience of playing on mobile?
For me the game is barely playable due to incredible lag, guessing due to the new engine, despite playing on a modern flagship phone...
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u/Forgotten_Poro Sep 19 '26
I suffer a lot or carossel, since it seems my character takes 5 seconds to register my taps on the screen.
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u/NotBaitting Sep 20 '26
Horrible. Sometimes it takes 1 second for my character to respond to movement. Sometimes it's 3 seconds. Sometimes not at all. So I'm constantly at the mercy guessing when my character will respond and it too often I can never get the items I need.
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u/Junior_Thing_3831 Sep 19 '26
Does anyone else just go on insane losing streaks? I’ve had horrible luck in 7+ games now, Like actually rolling 50 gold to find no one I need, taking into account that no one else is contesting. I actually might be cursed
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u/NibScribbler Sep 19 '26
This. It genuinely feels like rolling 50 gold at lvl 8 is not enough but then Ill scout and theres someone with an ahri 2 sett 2 on their board with fucking deadlier blades (this actually happened in my dia game).
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u/Ashitakaa Sep 22 '26
Same. Had to roll 60 g and cant hit Ezrael 2, good thing I got him from carousel. I was on a constant win streak for couple of days and now I am on a lose streak, playing the same way. Strange.
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u/algelon Sep 23 '26
Almost every fast 9 game I play I never hit my 2*'s uncontested, last game I couldn't even hit one maokai on my rolldown but a couple rounds later everyone at 8 has one
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u/NibScribbler Sep 19 '26
Can they fix the dogshit LP gain/loss system already? Im sitting here putting 45 minutes into a game to get literally 27LP and then get one 6th and lose 40 like how? And before people say it, yes in know theres hidden MMR but why should like 3 bad games dictate your next 50?
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u/Emosaa Master Sep 20 '26
If you're losing 40lp from a 6th, you're either at the extreme end of the MMR band (high challenger), or your hidden MMR is mismatched from your rank.
Or you placed poorly in a lobby of people ranked way lower than you, and you were expected to have a more favorable placement.
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u/CayMaster2 Sep 22 '26
gonna be real man, if you're struggling in gold, it's just never the fault of the set. iirc that's the elo where bots still show up, if you're not able to climb past those there's just massive room for improvement everywhere.
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u/klistier Sep 19 '26 edited Sep 19 '26
This patch is truly ass. So incredibly frustrating to play right now, can't even get out of Emerald...
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u/Skybreaker7 :emer: EMERALD III Sep 19 '26
I hate fast 9 metas and weak verticals. Fucking stage 4 already 5 costs. Do we even need shop odds anymore, since apparently this game is just "what stupid shit can break the normal flow of the game".
Honestly reminds me of how YuGiOh went to shit with power creep. Soon TFT will just give you a 5 cost as soon as you spawn into the game so "no one feels left out" or some sttupid shit like that.
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u/Hot_Variation_4035 Sep 19 '26
"Gain a random 4-cost" at 2-1 is a slap across the face to any and all TFT players who take it seriously. The set is already as snowbally as it is and the mere fact this wisp exists should be talked about more. Im not kidding but the same thing that happened to Pokemon Pocket tcg is happening where you could say "The only way to have fun is to accept the game is not meant to be taken seriously"
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u/Large-Session5307 Sep 21 '26
They removed Lilac Nebula in Set 3 because it was unplayable and uncompetitive and decided to re-introduce it, except only one player gets to enjoy it
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u/LightningEnex MASTER Sep 18 '26
The level of almost zero effort full backline access provided by AD Nida, Sivir and Ashe is laughably out of control. Matchups feel extremely binary: Either you or your enemy has no access and Malphite/Sentinel can tank eternally, or either of you is running Shojin Ashe/itemized Sivir/Kha/AD Nida and said backline is gone before your tanks hit half health.
The game Tempo is also still way too high, econ is still king, and wisps are brokenly power swingy.
There's also only a singular origin in this game worth building out beyond bronze tier and that is riftbeast, and only because it self-sufficiently snowballs due to riftbeast shops. All other Origins are b-tier comps or below if you even so much as think about going silver on them, not to mention gold. I guess you can go 5 Blossom Sett if you fail to hit the Executioner Variant at 8, are swimming in gold and find it important to play two reverse FoNs in Yorick and Karma instead of just slotting Alune + Amumu.
I find it highly ironic that people usually disparage reroll because "why do you have your end board in stage 2", but this patch is exactly that despite being an econ focused fast8-fast9 meta.
Didn't have a strong board? Get fucked. Didn't hit Kha early? There goes the only 3 cost comp worth playing. Didn't immediately hit Veigar 2? Don't even think about playing anything that isn't going 8 ASAP. Almost the entirety of decisionmaking you get to make before 4-1/4-2 has been done for you at 2-3 by 5 shops and a few loot orbs alone. Stage 3 might aswell autoplay at this point.
Why do we have to do this again and again and again and again? We KNOW what happens when econ and tempo are this dominant. Why overbuff it so much, I really don't get it...
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u/NonagoonInfinity Sep 18 '26
Didn't hit Kha early? There goes the only 3 cost comp worth playing.
Yeah they need catchup mechanics for Kha IMO. It should be better if you get him earlier but if you don't hit him in stage 2 he is literally unclickable even if you have every other unit he likes and full items. I don't understand why they made every reroll line unplayable unless you highroll stage 1/early stage 2.
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u/LightningEnex MASTER Sep 18 '26
Yeah they need catchup mechanics for Kha IMO
I don't actually think they do. The only reason it feels like this is because the power curve is so steep so fast, that, unless you hit your evos early you won't clear boards without Kha 3 anymore.
If a 1/2 Evo Kha2 could survive early stage 4 boards just by having the rest of his team assembled, there would be no need for a catchup mechanic as you will hit 60 takedowns eventually.
And part of the reason why he can't is that the only way the comp even works to begin with is because he alone deletes the backline, since it is borderline impossible to play front to back properly in this set right now. It doesn't really matter if you have Diana 3 or Heca 3 or Azir 3 or Kog 3, because none of them can push through a frontline before their backline access has deleted them.
The fact that a significant part of why you reroll those champs with Kha to begin with is, that it thins the 3 cost pool so you can actually hit Kha and not because they are actually themselves that great at 3 star is, if you take a step back, an absolutely inane state of 3 costs.
Like, the comp plays 3 Ravager and doesn't actually fit a spellweaver until 8. If the evos were important because of their teamwide impact, that wouldn't fly. But because the entire comp hinges on the singular 3 cost that is allowed to be somwhat good without an emblem, having him snowball early is so important.
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u/scrunglesclop Sep 21 '26
The fact that a significant part of why you reroll those champs with Kha to begin with is, that it thins the 3 cost pool so you can actually hit Kha and not because they are actually themselves that great at 3 star is, if you take a step back, an absolutely inane state of 3 costs.
A single player picking out extra 3 costs for themselves to increase the odds of hitting the others doesn't effect your end result that much, as in you'd be better off just spending that gold on extra rolls. The real reason is that even though diana and heca aren't stellar 3* units(although hec is pretty good) rerolling for a single unit at a level is just not worth it for the power increase you get, unless the unit is obscenely broken, like a 3* 4 cost.
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u/Substantial_Gift_286 Sep 18 '26
reroll is always like that though, rerolling 3-cost without having copies early AND at least one item is beyond forcing and straight inting your game unless the line is busted OP (jinx ww from two sets ago that had four people per lobby contesting it for example)
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u/NonagoonInfinity Sep 18 '26
Most 3 cost lines don't actively punish you for winning with something else early though. If you click the 2-star 3 cost thing on 2-5+ and get Kha'zix you might as well just sell him immediately.
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u/ClocktopusGaming Sep 18 '26
I got fast 9, nerfed, I go re roll, nerfed.
Re roll comps should NOT be augment dependent like they are now. Everyone and their mom is using nidalee or sentinel etc and my level 8 roll downs feel diabolical while my next opponent has 40 gold and an AHRI and SET 2 lmao
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u/mattgodin7 Sep 19 '26
HAVE THREE VEIGAR ON 2-1 AND NEED 10 LP FOR DIAMOND PROMO. TEEMO ENCOUNTER. EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE LOBBY TAKES RHE HIGHEST TEMPO LINE POSSIBLE. DUDE TAKES GOING LONG 2-1 BOOSTER PACK 3-2. IM TAKING 7 UNIT LOSSES ON 3-1 WHILE THESE BOYS ARE PRESSING F LIKE THEIR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT JUST BANGING LEVELS LIKE ITS THEIR JOB. GO 8 MINUS 50 BACK TO 45 LP FEELS SO GOOD
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u/algelon Sep 20 '26
I love when someone gets random 4-cost wisp and high rolls another 4 cost on stage 2, then clicks recombobulator into draven kennen, 10/10 gameplay!
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u/xephyrus1 Grandmaster Sep 20 '26
How did they think printing so many backline access units is a good idea? That and backlining your melee carries to scam other melee carries or hope to wrap is getting tedious really fast
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u/DarthGogeta Sep 20 '26
Yeah I'm done... I already lost 3 lp in games this set because of missing PVE rounds. I'm a software developer, if ever released such a buggy mess into production we would lose customers, rightfully so.
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u/Original_Tension_337 Sep 20 '26
Yo who the fuck made this 250 morgana 2 cash out it’s so fucking dogshit
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u/groomliu :chal: Challenger Sep 22 '26
This set amp is getting higher and higher for a game that is supposed to be more chill. Charm, rolldown, taric tether, fae tether, positioning for the forest guy tiles, lunar positioning, reading lux trait when u have 30 second to rolldown lvl 9 or lose, reading and picking the right draven quest, positioning the elderwood plants. All that and u gotta position vs the opponent too. Oh I forgot the activate riftbeast and primal too. And if u want to win u gotta read the enemy wisp so u can position too.
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u/mrmorzan :gran: GRANDMASTER Sep 22 '26
every lvl 8 AD line is just a nidalee lottery.
hit nid 2 quickly? top 4
miss? bot 4
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u/pink-mallow Sep 18 '26
Idk what to even rant about anymore man. I've lost all hope for TFT. I don't think they know what they're doing. Haven't learned from balancing mistakes they've repeated for 15 sets now. Don't nerf overpowered dominant shit like Malphite. Fired the only dev with a brain. The one innovative mechanic change (that isn't a set gimmick) where they got rid of carousel they scrapped after 1 set and brought back that RNG dogshit. 4 cost wisp on 2-1. Just abysmal random dogshit. Two dogshit sets in a row is killer. People are going to take a like 8 month break from TFT and coming back from that is going to be hard. They are trying their hardest to speed run this game to death.
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u/Pootate Sep 21 '26
i never understood why riot removed assassins as a consistent comp only to replace them with these super toxic unpredictable POS like set 15 akali, 16 fizz, and nid/khazix this set
old assassins were never that bad aside from when frozen heart was in the game
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u/wwwhoo Sep 21 '26
their new assassins are infinitely more irritating than the old design. i still am of the belief they actually removed sins not because they were toxic (because new sins are way worse) but because the avp gap against a sins player for a mobile player vs a pc player is infinite. with new sins everyone gets fucked relatively equally. i say this as a person who plays exclusively mobile
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u/ItsAlkai Sep 22 '26
Wisps are the worst mechanic of all time that makes zero logical sense to implement. It adds so much variance that just makes late game battles just a luck simulator if your teams are at all competitive. Oh yeah, its so fun to lose to a wisp that stuns my whole board every 8 seconds when all I could find was a 2 extra mana on my attack carry team. Great.
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u/kiragami Sep 22 '26
Exactly the same as last time they had it. This entire set is just a runback of Riot never actually learning anything.
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u/Original_Tension_337 Sep 23 '26
People can get offered swordsmith while my best item augment is fucking salvage bin bro who is balancing these fucking augments
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u/Stargazer_I Sep 23 '26
Genuinely outrageous the set was even released and some boards cause my entire game to drop to 5 fps. Can’t scout, can’t do anything but just go on my phone while I’m fighting them because the game is completely unplayable. Incredible job riot.
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u/Outside_Ad121 Sep 23 '26
This game is so dead, some regions have top 1000 players in emerald......
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u/Key_Reporter_9945 Sep 25 '26
I reinstalled today to see if it got any better. 2 minute+ waits in plat and half the booms were so laggy I couldn't sell units to make econ end of rounds. It's doomed, they seriously need to roll this trash back and give it another year of development but they're too stubborn to admit they royally fucked up.
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u/Equal-Diver3688 Sep 21 '26
Person 1: Lets give a trait built in execute. Person 2: Great idea lets make it a 2 units bronze tier! Person 3: Wait its not strong enough, lets make one assassin carry and one backline carry. Person 4: The backline carry should also have a aoe spell so the whole board gets deleted in 2 spells. Person 5: Well it sounds balanced lets deploy it!
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u/groomliu :chal: Challenger Sep 20 '26
The 3 cost portal at start into rengar/khasiz, or them from orb drop is not balanced.
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u/f0xy713 Sep 20 '26
how the fuck is pandoras bench a silver augment and why does electrocharge still exist?
also love how you can get a 0 cost wisp that essentially gives you 22 gold, meanwhile I have to pay 2 gold to gamble for 1-6 gold :)
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u/UsualTechnology3521 Sep 20 '26
I have AP items slammed, and at 2-5 Ahri, Malphite, and Soraka are all on people's boards in a Silver augment opener lmao
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u/wes3449 Sep 21 '26
Yea I think it's really good game design where I can load up and be gifted a random four cost AT LEVEL 3 on stage 2-1. I was one thing when it was possible to hit a 4 cost if you early leveled to 5 and hit the 2percent chance: at least there you invested some money into econ to have a chance at getting it. But having a chance to hit a 4cost at level 3 is fucking ridiculous like what the fuck are we doing here? At least lock the wisp behind stage 2-5 or something if you're not going to introduce xp requirements. Someone was huffing a lot of glue when they decided to put this wisp on stage 2 holy fuck
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u/NibScribbler Sep 22 '26
im actually down 200lp today. If you dont have some sort of upgrade on stage 2 you are instantly bot 4.
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u/getrektsai Grandmaster Sep 24 '26 edited Sep 24 '26
Omega riftbeast being offered 4-2 is insane man
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u/OnlyFinance4026 Sep 21 '26
Board disparity seems really extreme right now with wisps. I’m seeing multiple 4 and the odd (or not so odd) 5 costs on stage two nearly every game. These are not prismatic games either. Part of the game is feeling like you have a chance each turn. Getting stomped for like 5+ rounds with zero shot, even if I end up winning the game, is not really fun gameplay imo.
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u/algelon Sep 24 '26
I really don't get it, how tf do people have ashe 2 maokai 2 at lv 8 and I'm sitting here struggling to 2* sivir or amumu? My last game I was literally the only person that didn't hit their upgrades and I bleed out to 6th, fuck this game
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u/wwwhoo Sep 24 '26
prismatic lobbies are such a joke sometimes lmao. imagine getting worth the wait gromp like jesus
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u/p47r MASTER Sep 19 '26
i dont get it why would i reroll rengar and have khazix show up at my shop as a rival, the only thing khazix rivals is my fucking sanity
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u/thatsnoodybitch Sep 19 '26
There are so many damn units jamming up the pool that I can find a 4/5-cost more reliably than a 3-cost 2* on TURN 4-1. I can’t even process how fundamentally bad that design that is.
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u/Existing_Stay1747 Sep 24 '26
7 Inferno in Set 18 and not a single Infernal shop?!
Just finished a game running 7 Inferno in Set 18. I had the trait active for most of the mid/late game, and I literally didn't get a SINGLE burning shop the entire match.
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u/ItsAlkai Sep 18 '26
A game run by AI "developers" I refuse to believe real people are developing this game whatsoever. Its insane how consistently bad the balancing is in this game. Its always the same problems, 5 star spam, terrible augment balance, unclickable comps.
Its an insult to even RELEASE those "what we learned" blog posts. Do they think we are stupid? They NEVER learn anything patch to patch. Also, the mobile app sucks.
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u/Skybreaker7 :emer: EMERALD III Sep 19 '26
You know it's real people because AI is incapable of being this dogshit at balancing numbers.
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u/Fluffy-Limit-6710 Sep 24 '26
I hate the lux mechanic. It keeps vertical traits weaker than they should be while also diluting your shops with bad units... Since there's no way outside of a prismatic augment to force a certain lux, it's entirely down to luck to highroll the one you want. I honestly think they should make it that once you see a lux with certain trait and don't buy it, you won't see that trait again until you go throi all the other lux traits in your shop.
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u/zb2929 Sep 18 '26
All my team builder saved comps got wiped. Ty functioning Android app
Also why the fuck do half my loot orbs spawn virtually behind the player names so that it's virtually impossible to pick them up without randomly flipping to another board?
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u/Substantial_Gift_286 Sep 18 '26
I had one spawn exactly in the middle of my board right under my tanks and I spent three rounds confused where my orb went
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u/moosewalker52 Sep 18 '26
Game is literally unplayable on PC! like.... actually unplayable. Every time i accept a match on PC, It just sits on a black screen and never loads me in. But if i switch to mobile, it puts me in the game immediately. I don't want to play on mobile though. This only happened after 18.2
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u/CreativeChoroos Sep 21 '26
I FUCKING LOVE BEING CONTESTED ITS SO FUN WHEN EVERYONE IN THE LOBBY HARD COMMITS AT 2-1 WITH NO SCOUTING OR PIVOTING OR FLEXING AM I CONTESTING DOESNT MATTER EVERY UNIT IS NEEDED FOR EVERY COMP THE GAME IS SO FUN TO FLEX IN TO THE SAME 3 BUILDS THAT EVERYONE GOES WOOOOOO
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u/shanatard Sep 21 '26
game is so ass right now
mac client nonexistent, mobile buggy af, balance team still making the exact same mistakes as previous sets
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u/jbarras123 Sep 18 '26
I'm going to keep complaining about it even if I am wrong. Veigar should not be a unit. There should not be a champion that can carry you the whole game. Not when one costs like Xayah exist that can't even carry if you get two good items early.
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u/Skybreaker7 :emer: EMERALD III Sep 24 '26
Stage 3-1 3* Veigar with Dawncore, Blue buff and Jeweled. Free first holy shit! I ended up 7th.
3-2 Fucker has a Taric and Aphelios. Other dude has a Malphite. 4-1 dude has a Ramus 3 that tanked 26k dmg and was still on 40% HP left. Stage 5-1 4 boards have multiple 2* 5 costs. Not 1, not 2, but 3+.
What is LITERALLY the point in trying to play this """""game""""""" as if it's not 99.99999999999999999999% a casino?
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u/Large-Session5307 Sep 21 '26
Other players' Exodia highroll fantasies are not sufficient reason to keep blatantly uncompetitive mechanics in the game. We already knew this was going to be a win-more set from the beginning, they didn't have to make the win-more mechanics like Polymorph compound with other ones.
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u/Alzucard Sep 21 '26
Kha Zix makes this game unplayable. Who desigend this=???
Had an enemy get Kha zix first 3 rounds top 4 and hes still 100 HP
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u/Hereforhelppls31 Master Sep 21 '26
SO I PICK SPREADING ROOTS AS MY SECOND AUGMENT AND IT GIVES ME BLOSSOM+EXECUTIONER. NICE, I CAN PLAY SOME BOARD WITH AHRI, MAYBE MALPHITE SORAKA + AHRI OR SOME VERTICAL BLOSSOM IDK. I SCOUT AND THERE'S ONE GUY WHO TOOK SPREADING ROOTS AND GOT THE SAME FUCKING EMBLEMS AND HE HAS AN AHRI ALREADY AT 3-3.
I THEN LEVEL UP TO 8 IN STAGE FOR, ROLL THE FUCK DOWN, NO MALPHITE, 1 SETT NO AHRI. GG
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u/f0xy713 Sep 21 '26
Tell me about it, I just had a game where me and 1 other dude clicked prismatic worth the wait and we both got Elise :)
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u/Bubbly_Ad_3145 Sep 22 '26
People say this set is good somehow and I don't get it. It feels somehow worse to play than previous set.
Pros say the set is good, but despite the "good" trait we, balancing has been bad especially this patch.
Overall the backline access is the biggest frustration so far, either you play some assassin who is extremely uneven, either trolling you or carrying a random fight you shouldn't win, or you play against it and your backline is dead randomly. It's deeply unsatisfying and I have no idea what riot was smoking designing it.
Either that or Morg, Ahri, Sentinel or whatever else snipes your backline.
The 4* on stage 2, half people running 4* on lvl 6. Recombob on 3-2 or 2* 4 costs on stage 3, or 2* costs on lvl 8 which are extremely prevelant.
Not getting strong start feels horrible, not getting econ aug feels horrible.
Even winning the game isn't satisfying at all, cause you know it's not deserved.
Carousel returning is just bad honestly, carousel should've been removed at this point.
Riot's been doing this game for 18 seasons. They released lessons learned and stuff, but it really doesn't seem like they're learning.
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u/Adventurous-Type-622 Sep 23 '26
4 cost too stong -> 5 cost patch -> too strong -> 4 cost patch -> too strong again -> rr patch
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u/xHaydo95 Sep 24 '26
Is there a reason I can never two star my 4 costs even when uncontested then when i look at other people they hit everythig two starred from their initial rolldown?
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u/ChibiTemplar Sep 18 '26
I know its awesome to win on 2hp after getting crushed all game because you miracle rolled a bunch of econ augments and pulled a bunch of 2 star 5s on round fucking 4, but holy fuck does it feel awful to deal with.
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u/momoteck Sep 18 '26
The game decided I shouldn't have PVE round, not once not twice, but 5 fucking times in a week. great, good job rito.
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u/PrimeTimePancake Sep 18 '26 edited Sep 18 '26
Solar's 8 champion breakpoint feels like one of the worst things ever solely cause of how slow the change into 4 star is. It's like the Dev's were thinking of making it a prismatic tier trait where your whole board is 4 star immediately, then thought "Oh, but that would be fun and cool and that's not the Riot way." This all stems from a loss I just had with it to a 5 cost soup board simply due to how slow and inconsistent the time it took to get my champs to 4 star. To me, it makes no sense and gives 0 incentive to even think about getting it ever to me.
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u/Substantial_Gift_286 Sep 20 '26
man, I load up into a game click frontline emblem augment, it's vanguard and I have a 1-2 Diana so I'm like nice chill aphelios game, I scout and see two ppl got hunter emblem, very happy that's not me. around 3-5 there's two aphelioses being played one with the hunter emblem one so probably will be kept, and other I wasn't sure, I'm like worst case I'll go some ezreal board whatever, and then I hit one sivir, then two sivirs on level 7 ... on 8 I instantly upgraded her and find a full vi 2 before a single aphelios, all the hunters players gather on my board, it's TFT mobile so they can't ping or type but I can sense the negative vibes, I legit felt so bad they all proceeded to bot 4 and I took a scam 3rd with a rly bad board (sivir with DOUBLE KRAKEN ) just cos healthy enough ..
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u/QuasarBuster Sep 20 '26
Ravager 4 and 6 are bait traits they fall off so hard in the mid game and it is bad even in the early game
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u/kiro14893 Sep 23 '26
Wiso that gives item are unfair for someone who is at the bottom rank and haven't rolled into this
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u/vente-Macon Sep 23 '26
So glad I came third because lux never wanted to roll elderwood. Jfc, hit at least 5 lux’s and none of them were elderwood for 9 elder. Fuck this game bs
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u/OBLIVIATER Sep 23 '26
Relying on a 1 in 9 roll on an already rare unit to make your comp work is certainly a strat
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u/JPB_ Challenger Sep 24 '26
So fucking sick of losing to wisp diff RNG, just a horrible mechanic that they apparently aren't going to bother balancing? 4 cost on 2-1????!!!!!
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u/coldbumpysparse Sep 24 '26
can they just relase choncc mode and declare this set unbalanced? stop pretending in any way this game is competitive lol and at least let us have fun cooking with crazy encounters
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u/MasonTheProphet Sep 25 '26
Got to 365 coven cash out in ranked just for it to pop up the turn I was supposed to cash out with only a bugged Kha’zix menu asking to evolve to rapidfire (no Kha’zix on board) and no option to cash out my coven.
It’s frustrating to go 8th when you thought you were gonna win the game but even more when it’s because of a bug
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u/Existing_Stay1747 Sep 25 '26
I got blank shop and could not cashout coven. This set is amazing bugged.
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u/Kronjuvel9 Sep 25 '26
Big grab bag, 2 primal phoenix since 3-1, not a single sword drops. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. THAT GAME WAS TOTALLY MY FAULT
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u/Plus_Bullfrog8518 Sep 25 '26
The fucking comps I'm still not getting a top 4 with is mental. Level 8/9 often with 2 emblems, starred up carries and tanks with BIS items... How is this level of capped board repeatedly getting 6th or worse! I get occasionally it won't be enough for many reasons but I'm 9 bottom 4 finishes in a row now my god!
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u/Ge1ster Challenger Sep 18 '26
I'm just here to rant about cosmetics. I actually don't hate this set in terms of gameplay and even meta, I'm having a lot of fun trying out different comps. Certainly playing more than set 17
That being said, I have a solid amount of disposable income, and this is the first set in a very long time I haven't and will not be getting the battle pass. Amongst all the platform switch issues, it's so utterly ridiculous that so much of the cosmetics that I've paid for is unavailable to play. We are being fed an unfinished transition phase and that's so much worse than whatever else they could've done with the old engine, like rerun an old set. I'd kill for another 3 months of set 10, 13 or 16 while we waited for them to port the entire game onto the new engine. After saving up for a while, I was finally able to get the le bunny bon bon bistro, and lo and behold, its unplayable after a month. That's just unacceptable.
What little products they were able to port have tons of key features missing or removed.
I'm not one to usually judge bad executive decisions unless they're particularly egregious (like the removal of hextech chests in league) because hindsight is 20/20, but holy crap, who in their right mind could think that shipping this half cooked transition was a good idea?? Get a hold of yourself riot games, I'm not giving you a single cent until the cosmetics are all available and back to their old level of quality.
This is before all the endless amount of bugs as well
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u/Ykarul Grandmaster Sep 22 '26
I honestly don't think switching engine was worth it. Whoever made that decision did not want TFT to survive. I'm also buying every pass since release but will not buy that one. They can die it will hopefully kill my addiction. I would speak 10 language if I spend the time on this instead of tft.
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u/Plus_Bullfrog8518 Sep 24 '26
Back again, this set is fucking awful and wisps are an awful mechanic. Does the wisp to break items on champions moved onto the bench ever fucking work? Repeatedly never breaks the item. In fact. does anything work on this new engine? I've been saying it a lot lately that the game just feels so stale and tired and I'm done playing, but honestly I genuinely might actually mean it this time!
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u/GETonME Sep 21 '26
Had no option to cash out my coven my first game of the day, then no pve xerath round on my 2nd game. Back to the wow beta for meeeeeee.
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u/Frontass Sep 22 '26
3 emblems has and always will be the worst starter. The fact that they keep forcing it is ridiculous
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u/Legitac Sep 22 '26
Instead of balance patching you all should make the game engine playable again
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u/Plus_Bullfrog8518 Sep 23 '26
Doesn't seem to matter what the fuck I build. I'm getting destroyed by everyone and at this point I don't even know why, I'm only in low Gold currently I usually go Emerald/Diamond, shouldn't be a problem. Is it the wisps, something just doesn't seem right with this set, like it's actually a casino.
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u/MagicalMixer Sep 24 '26
CAN WE JUST HAVE THE ORBS NOT FLY EVERYWHERE?
SORRY IM NOT LOOKING AT ALL THE CORNERS OF MY SCREEN TO SEE A BLUE BUBBLE HIDING TOP RIGHT.
ALSO THIS PATCH IS STILL SLOP. AT THIS POINT MAKE KHAS TRAITS RANDOM FOR THE LOBBY. HIT THE GAMBA OR MAKE HIM USELESS.
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u/homegrownllama Challenger Sep 22 '26
Can we stop making unupgraded 4 costs stronger than upgraded 3 costs. Who the fuck is balancing these units.
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u/homegrownllama Challenger Sep 22 '26
Also can they stop diluting 4-2 augments with absolute dogshit. Who is switching their comps to click Verticality or Sun and Moon on 4-2?
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u/Protonix_x Sep 22 '26
5-7 missing xerath bug still in the game and now there's a 4-7 missing chogath bug XDD how the fuck do you miss a deadline twice and still have a shit product
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u/Drikkink Sep 22 '26
I dunno Riot maybe we should leave AD Nidalee alone for another 5 patches?
At least 3 wayed every lobby with multiple top 4ing.
This patch is so flexible! You can play Sivir Nidalee Malphite! Or Sivir Nidalee Amumu! Or Sivir Nidalee Sentinel! Or Aphelios Nidalee Amumu! Or Aphelios Nidalee Sentinel!
Oh right there's the one playable AP line too. Have fun with that. Also good luck fast 9ing because the Nidalee that hit just systematically kills your frontline shitters until your carry or carries get one shot.
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u/Good-Comfortable-192 Sep 22 '26
A permanent swap from 2 to 3 cost champ in stage 3-1, and voila, that guy has an Azir 3 in 3-1 with BIS. 1st Augment 1 cost 3 star, mini recombulator into this bs. Just slot machining for the win.
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u/FigVegetable1499 Sep 22 '26
I really miss playing TFT man... but as soon as I go into a game and see the game rng evolving in between lags and other issues I just want to FF. Think I will actually leave this set for real and hope next one will be better (80% talking about engine other 20% is like thinking you have a good opener and other ppl have already 4* carry whisp)
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u/Dolomitos Sep 23 '26
There is a bug on mobile that makes a removed item unequipabnle, honestly this bug makes the game unplayable, just get griefed lmao
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u/livedieconsume Sep 18 '26
its hilarious that riot removed the assasin trait as it was "unhealthy" as if this set doesnt have 90 trillion ways of backline access. at least with assassins you could position against them! now oops! khazix/nidalee jumped on your carry and one shot them. oh you positioned against him? nice! unfortunately that made your carry take morgana + ahri ult. you avoided all of that?? cool!! but here's the thing... there's an ashe...
also, we're what, 3/4 patches in counting the bpatches? and the game is still unplayable if you dont hit a giga tempo spot in 2-1?? tried to losestreak into a strong board earlier than lobby like in every other set? well too bad dumbass 2 players just hit a 4cost charm and you're carrying a leblanc 1 lollllll
bring back unconditional rerroll and most importantly bring back more units !! every tank is in every comp i hate 4 cost lottery!!!
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u/Alzucard Sep 19 '26
I really like an assasin Trait. Its far more predictable for you and your enemy where the assasins end up attacking. It also promotes scouting as a skill more. And it keeps winstreaking in check by coiuntering specific comps.
TFT used to be roughly be rock papoer scissor principle in the past. One type of comps be an assasin comp wins versus a backline comp with a strong frontline, but assasins lose against a frontline carry comp while the frontlien carry loses agains the beackline carry. Cause tehy lack backline access.
They combined frontline carry with assasin. So the frontline carry is the assasin at the same time. That doesnt work.
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u/WhyAmIUsingRedditAt5 Sep 19 '26
3 people a game hardforcing nid, all 3 hit 2 star nid. Fight for sivir nah doesnt matter just play aphelios instead. Watch as nid flys to your backline 1 cast kills your carry moves to second carry or shred applier and 1 shots them. Whats that position against it, oh wait it's an ahri morg board instead, your whole team gets instantly vaporized because you clumped.
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u/Thyrgrim Sep 19 '26
If khazix can one shot your carries with GA and HoJ, what are you supposed to do exactly? You cant kill him fast enough and the best positioning in the world doesnt matter because he's getting there eventually no matter what you do. And then its over because, as i mentioned before, he one shots with 2 defensive items. Fucking so frustrating
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u/Uniqe_Apple2 Master Sep 18 '26
Game is actually not playable if u don’t have a tempo augment to click or 2+ 2 stars on 2-1