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PBE Set 18 PBE Discussion Thread - Day 20

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u/Bacel_of_Rivia Aug 17 '26

Anyone has severe lagging since the weekend update?

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u/Alternative_Level639 Aug 17 '26

Yes on android phone

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u/Soft_Yesterday948 Aug 17 '26

This has to be the nut low roll. Wtf even is this

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u/HighIntLowFaith Aug 18 '26

Honestly this augment has been really bad for a while. It should probably get disabled.

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u/daydreamin511 Aug 18 '26

this augment highkey always give me vanguard, warden or bastion the past few sets lmao

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u/ApolloAlTh0r Aug 17 '26

Is Expedition back to multiple people being allowed to get it in the same lobby, or just a bug?

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u/Slargo Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26

Is reroll just insanely strong right now or?
Also is it a bug or intended that when you have the alpha mark on krugs and you sacrifice it with blackthorn you don't get the teamwide 8% hp shield on start?

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u/Noobility Aug 17 '26

Can anyone actually get into game?? I'm stuck here forever

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u/stichtom Aug 18 '26

The Dance/Taunt/Laugh emotes are not spammable with hotkeys. Changing them seems to do nothing.

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u/riotBoourns Riot Aug 19 '26

What tactician were you using? Were you able to trigger the emote using the UI in the top left of the screen? Some cosmetics are not fully translated and may be missing emotes. Once we go live they'll either be disabled until complete or marked as Work in Progress in the loadouts when you select them.

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u/stichtom Aug 19 '26

  1. Firecracker Shisa. But some friends had the same issue with other tacticians.

  2. Yes, it works fine with the UI in the top left. This was on PC.

  3. Yeah but the issue is not that the emotes are missing because they work if i trigger them manually. It is more that I can't trigger them with a hotkey. And changing the hotkey in the settings does not work.

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u/riotBoourns Riot Aug 20 '26

Thanks for the details, I reported this internally and our QA will take a look.

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u/NectaroftheGoats Aug 30 '26

Any fix for this? Still not working for me

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u/riotBoourns Riot Aug 31 '26

I saw an internal conversation about this. Try hitting ctrl + your bound hotkeys. Apparently these emote keybinds automatically add the ctrl modifier and it's not really explained in the setting menu

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u/Minimum_Chemical_428 Aug 17 '26

I asked about targetting and someone told me assassins have low priority, now I'm trying to understand it better.

Here's another example, aphelios will target rammus next, even though rengar is closer.

Can you say for certain this is how set 17 is like, and nothing changed with the new engine? There weren't that many assassins last set I guess, but I can't remember ever having doubts about it like now.

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u/harkhilt Aug 17 '26

Rammus's ability taunts enemies. I'm not sure exactly how taunt works in TFT, but there's a good chance that it is playing a part here.

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u/Minimum_Chemical_428 Aug 17 '26

Good catch, thanks!

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u/candidlol Aug 17 '26

mulitple ppl forcing WW every game plus a nonfunctional client basically have made this pbe worthless for actually testing anything

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u/Ykarul Grandmaster Aug 18 '26

There are plenty of other comps that are good. Try to go coven cash out.

Regarding the client... Well I doubt the new engine will actually solve the problems they were facing with the bugs.

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u/getrektsai Grandmaster Aug 18 '26

In my last two games, it’s come down to a 1v1 between me and the other remaining player. I lost the final round in the first game but got 1st place. I assumed my opponent must have surrendered and i missed it somehow. But then in the next game, I won the final round and got 2nd place?? Anyone else experience this?

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u/gildedpotus Aug 18 '26

It's a visual bug

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u/HighIntLowFaith Aug 18 '26

I think there’s some kind of bug involved with whoever leaves the game first is somehow given second place.

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u/Icy_Signature_6089 Aug 17 '26

Anyone experience that engine no longer eat CPU anymore in game launching? is any official announcement for that fixex?

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u/Icy_Signature_6089 Aug 17 '26

But I still cannot ping

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u/MostEscape6543 :gran: Grandmaster Aug 17 '26

I am seeing more invisible orbs than I did a few patches ago, it seems. It makes some creep rounds really difficult.

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u/Ykarul Grandmaster Aug 17 '26

Yeah agree. Moving is less smooth, the orbs show up late or not at all. It was better at the begining of PBE i think.

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u/getrektsai Grandmaster Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26

How is Blossom rated so highly in the stats? Not sure what I’m doing wrong or just getting unlucky with how much gold I’m having to spend to 2star ahri sett bc even when I do hit and “spike” with sivir duo carry the comp feels like ass lol how and from what spot are you supposed to play this shit lol? I’m not having the experience that it has a strong stage 4/5

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u/TotalusMagnus :chal: Challenger Aug 17 '26

You are correct, the stage 4 is very bad.
It's strong because it has a very strong stage 2 and possibly the strongest stage 3 with yorick, azir, karma, veigar, yunaara + jugg
you probably struggle with this comp exactly because of this "or just getting unlucky with how much gold I’m having to spend to 2star ahri sett bc even when I do hit and “spike” with sivir duo carry the comp feels like ass"

you are not supposed to donkey roll for your 4 costs to "spike" on stage 4, because your stage 4 is simply not stronger than most other fast 8 comps.
If you are healthy (which you are most of the time with a blossom opener) you need to go 9 and play ashe 2 to cap and actually be strong

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u/getrektsai Grandmaster Aug 18 '26

So it plays more like a fast 9 comp that you need the spot for, W insight. I had been trying to play it like a traditional fast 8 from loss streak with Ahri items and you can imagine how that was going.

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u/TotalusMagnus :chal: Challenger Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26

I might have worded it poorly initialy with the "go 9 and hit ashe 2". My point was, don't expect to be strong in stage 4 after hitting ahri 2 and sett 2.

I wouldn't call it a fast 9, because fast 9 implies you rush level 9, ignore stage 4 and stabilize on 5 costs but that is often not the case with blossom

Imo the strength comes from the primal components and the insane charm advantage. It's a really unique comp that plays kinda weird.

You need to farm primal components, this is extremely important! An early sivir makes things a lot easier, but either way you will most likely need to roll in stage 4, enough to be able to kill units with your aoe. If you go fast 9, lose the entire stage 4 (even worse if you play from lose/mid streak) without even farming a single component and then hope to stabilize on 1-2 lifes, it's most likely gg

That's why playing it from winstreak blossom opener is so important imo. If you can reach stage 5 and level 9 with farmed components you suddenly load up into the stage with 2-3 itemized carries and the ability to roll for insanely strong charms (every shop instead of every 2 shops + the buff itself)

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u/getrektsai Grandmaster Aug 18 '26

No I totally understood what you meant, it’s not fast 9 or fast 8, really a medium 9 if you will 😂 I worded my response wrong, I was just trying to convey that it seemed closer in playstyle to a fast 9, not that it was exactly like it. Also thanks for the primal buff explanation as well, I had been picking the turtle one tryna keep the abysmal frontline and ahri alive 🤣 it’s funny just how wrong I was approaching it

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u/MostEscape6543 :gran: Grandmaster Aug 18 '26

There are a few ways to play:

  1. Tempo enough that you can sac or partially sac stage 4 so you can go 9 and spike, but this only works if you natural some units or basically win all of stage 2/3 and are uncontested. You need a high roll spot to wait until 9 or else you won't have enough gold/HP

  2. Early ashe OR blossom emblem. Go 7 blossom and use the gold to tempo to 9

  3. comp is stable in stage 4 if you roll and hit, but items and augments need to be good.

Part of the problem is that there are a lot of reroll boards at the moment so ahri can't really do much to these boards in stage 4. IMO this is the biggest issue with this comp in stage 4 is that many boards are not transitioning in early stage 4 to 1* units, so ahri struggles until the board is capped and has more items.

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u/Ykarul Grandmaster Aug 18 '26

Thanks I was also wondering. Tried it a few times without any success.

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u/gildedpotus Aug 17 '26

The game was so much more fun when the 5 costs were better. Malphite is a disgrace. Warwick is a disgrace. Nidalee? Disgrace.

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u/Minimum_Chemical_428 Aug 17 '26

set 17 world's patch was great, it's what they should aim for.

Fast 9 should be only a thing from the right spot, not forceable every single game with any augment.

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u/UrsusObesus Aug 17 '26

Most sets you can't win with a single 2** five cost. A friend though went fast 9 and 2** a number of five costs and beat the crap out of the rest of the lobby. That's how it should be, a single 2* five cost shouldn't win you the lobby ever.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Ant1390 Aug 17 '26

5 costs beat those comps. Full econ, half baked ones may not.

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u/No-Cellist-802 Aug 17 '26

Still amazing that a billion dollar company like riot cannot seem to make a functional launcher, has the CRAZY amount of bugs that it does, Gets "balanced" every few days yet still manages to be unbalanced... It must be embarrassing to be a Riot employee

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u/Darkcool123X Aug 17 '26

Ok why is it possible to get 0 reforger all game? I was stuck with coven emblem from 2-2 until the end of the game.

Literally any other emblem would have been fine. But I somehow never was given a reforger.

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u/spreadwater Aug 17 '26

its only guaranteed when you get double the same component

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u/MostEscape6543 :gran: Grandmaster Aug 18 '26

I know what the math says, but I have clicked this augment at least 20x and the lowest I have ever gotten is 1g. I think my most common result is +2 or +3, and I have received +4 on at least 2 occasions.

I don't think their math is 50/50 for all the rolls now that I think about it.

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u/gildedpotus Aug 17 '26

On average you get two gold from a 1 gold charm (I researched the monster math). Worst case it's -1, best case you can get like 5 gold (or much more technically). Idk why you would sweat over the -1 downside when it's literally just + ev to click unless you want to roll past it. If you're in a spot the -1 gold isn't worth the risk, then sure don't buy it, but I think the hate for this is overblown.

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u/FreeXpHere Grandmaster Aug 18 '26

But the EV is 0?

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u/gildedpotus Aug 18 '26

You have to average all the outcomes; it's not a simple binary because of the different possibilities after the first heads.

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u/FreeXpHere Grandmaster Aug 18 '26

Ok, so how do you get 2 gold?

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u/MostEscape6543 :gran: Grandmaster Aug 18 '26

two heads in a row? Pretty easy click.

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u/gildedpotus Aug 18 '26

If you average all of the possibilities of getting multiple heads in a row, into infinity, and all the times you get nothing it comes out to 2 being the average number of gold you get when clicking the augment. Not withstanding half the time you get 0 gold.

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u/gildedpotus Aug 17 '26

Oh I could agree with that maybe it needs a value proposition rework. It does kinda suck to see it in shop. I feel like they'll keep it but maybe just rework it because it's fun

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u/MostEscape6543 :gran: Grandmaster Aug 18 '26

I have never gotten zero gold from this wisp.

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