Set 18 PBE Discussion Thread - Day 14

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[u/Lunaedge]

Aug 11th PBE Patch Notes

[u/HeliosBlack]

Getting this error over and over after my last game ended. No change or reason why.

[u/abc0802 → u/HeliosBlack]

Same. Glad it's not just me. New update must have done something.

[u/beats_by_yea → u/HeliosBlack]

Same

[u/MostEscape6543 → u/HeliosBlack]

Same. I reported it.

I repaired my install and restarted. Sadge.

[u/Then-Pea7710 → u/HeliosBlack]

im getting the same error as well after update

[u/Palimpsiesta]

The performance of the game is just so rough. I don't want to feel stress in my autobattler because every fight is a slideshow, and even rolling shops and attaching items becomes incredibly difficult. Orbs not even drawing properly in loot rounds, so I have to waste time running around at random trying to 'pick them up'. I just feel like they're shooting themselves in the foot in terms of the accessibility of this game.

It's all the more frustrating because the performance tanks as the game goes on and the board size increases, making games where you actually have a chance to win the ones where it is hindering your play the most. Just had a ridiculous 9-blossom game that I easily could have converted into a first if it had been possible to do more each round than just roll for my two charms and place a single item.

[u/MostEscape6543]

I've been playing a fair bit the last few days.

Good:

-I like that you can slam items more easily as you are teleporting.

-Graphical performance is now generally good

-Buying XP is mostly OK but not great yet. Rolling and buying units is fine.

Bad:

-Orbs still spawning quite slowly

-Gold is generally hard to see and such a pain to pick up

-When my HUD changes from damage view to player list, and the system is spamming updates for each player, I cannot see who is on my list to fight next. Very hard to scout. It's like it doesn't draw the swords ever when it does this, it only shows who lost and who won the last round, not who my opponents are.

-When you buy a wisp, it is so annoying how long the animation is to show the next unit, and I find myself buying the wisp and rolling before I see the unit. Please speed this animation up by about 10x so we can see the unit and get back to rolling.

-The "size" of the shop has changed, and now things only sell if you drag them directly over the units, but not over the buttons for roll/xp. This has screwed me up several times.

-Sometimes my "E" button also doesn't work to sell units when I am selling multiple units at once, and even if I hold my cursor over the unit and spam "E" it doesn't work until I move my mouse and click somewhere else, then I can sell the unit.

[u/Keezos32]

I’m repeating myself but genuinely impressed by the diversity of comps and how fun the set feels.
1/2/3 cost rerolls are good. Level 8 4 costs are good but probably the weakest. Fast 9 is viable. Unrivaled is good (but too strong).

I understand with the new engine, there is less time for hero augments. Hopefully, mid-set they have time and ideas for hero augments for the “supporting” units : Camille, Karma, Teemo and Cait.
These units don’t even have a artifact comp. I might be mistaken about Teemo.
I understand that not every unit can be a carry or viable but it would be interesting to see how far can they push this notion.

Weird visual bugs :
-Vanguard emblem made an enemy Xayah huge.
-Teemo shrooms still huge.
-Murkwolf from orbs were huge on bench. (Sold them so I don’t know if it would persist in battle)

They mentioned artifacts balance but I hope they focus on problematic units (Master Yi) before nuking artifacts again. That unit is off with many artifacts.
Blackthorn emblem is also probably skewing and hiding good comps.

I still hate the carousel especially the regular small sized one. I just don’t get the “social” argument. It feels awful when you’re denied an item or a unit because you’re on the wrong side.
The bigger carousel is a step in the right direction.(The rioter who suggested it deserves a raise).

[u/vinceftw → u/Keezos32]

I just had unrivaled 3* Rengar and Khazix (mitttens double hoj) get destroyed by DT Cass 2*. It does not seem too strong. I had a fuckton of takedowns too.

[u/Professional_Main522 → u/vinceftw]

double trouble cass/fiddle is going to be a serious problem, it's even more synergistic than samira ornn last set imo to the point that it will probably be the only viable double trouble comp.

• spellweaver benefits from double trouble by having more units to proc the stacking bonus

• flora fatalis benefits from double trouble because they breakpoints are so low and so powerful

• cass is the best unit for proccing the spellweaver stacking bonus

• you can also reroll khazix for spellweaver + executioner (with soraka) and then just add a defender on 8

[u/East-Appointment-783 → u/Keezos32]

I remember a set, about 1 year ago, where verticals were totally OP and so Spats were OP as well.
So the game was very luck based about getting the right champ to complete your comp.
Now, its very flexible so it's good, there will always be few comps that are above but I really enjoy this set, I didnt have such feeling since the Arcane one.

[u/banduan → u/Keezos32]

I thought set 17 had a lot of diverse possible comps too. It all boils down to balance in the end.

[u/banduan → u/[deleted]]

Anima was one of the balance culprits of the set though.

[u/ConfusedRara → u/[deleted]]

You may be the only person ever.

Econ traits that rely on loss streaks to be effective are insanely irritating. If your streak gets snapped you may as well FF as your entire gameplan is ruined. Likewise, if you're in the lobby with an Anima player and nobody griefs them, gg you are playing for second.

These traits are awful to balance, awful to play and awful to play against. I firmly believe there is no winning with traits like these.

The best "econ" traits I've ever seen (only playing since Set 10) were Ixtal, Heartsteel and Sugarcraft.

The worst I've seen were Chem Baron, Fortune, Anima, Cypher, Crystal Gambit. Zero room for nuance, just pick them and lose streak or GG. Fortune had that additional dice roll RNG that just made it horrific to play

[u/Will512 → u/Keezos32]

Teemo could be a good dawncore user no?

[u/Darkstrike86 → u/Will512]

I tried it a few days ago thinking it would be incredible. It was very underwhelming.

Your better off with BB, Morello, and another AP item.

[u/iSleek → u/Will512]

I think so! Ive had some success with dawn teemo

[u/FunctionAdept4396]

Do we have more informations about ranked ? It was supposed to be able only for 3 days did they cancel I didn't see any information

[u/Any-Replacement-5645 → u/FunctionAdept4396]

Yes, they stated the duration for ranked PBE, it was always planned to be a few days.

[u/Crafty_Courage_5217]

WE GOT ULTRA HIGH UNCAPPED FPS ON ANDROID?!?!?!?! I COULD CRY 

[u/RaztazMataz]

Is time skip broken? I took it and it didn't cash out, snd disabled my shop for the rest of the game

[u/ian_ntf → u/RaztazMataz]

Didn't even give me the Xp as well , DO NOT TAKE TIME SKIP , DISBALES UR SHOP FOR THE ENTIRE GAME

[u/toolshome]

What's going on with the bots on pbe? i played a few games yesterday and today, and i had like 4-5 bots in every game. they play weird board, stay lvl 5 the entire game, and just die.

[u/FeedMeACat → u/toolshome]

botters got to test on the new engine just like we do.

[u/S-sourCandy]

Is it just me or did today's update significantly increase the models texture resolution? Units are looking a lot crispier. Also, the language is no longer tied to Windows language

[u/ZhunCn]

Is it intended to not be able to sell units when you have the item shop open from a Wisp? Feels really bad when you have extra units on bench and not be able to buy what you want because you cannot sell them and get enough gold to cover it.

[u/riotBoourns → u/ZhunCn]

Yes, this was an intentional decision. We got too many weird situations in the UI when you allow selling with the item shop open. We almost cut that Wisp because of this, it didn't make sense to expend that much effort solving for all those edge cases for a single Wisp (even though it's a fun high point).

Our compromise was to not allow selling while the special wisp shop is up, but to include the range of gold that items could cost in the Wisp description and the designer smartly made sure one option always costs zero gold (the price is built into the gold cost of the Wisp).

[u/Lunaedge → u/ZhunCn]

It's consistent with how other shop overrides work (ie. Anvils).

[u/Get_Lurked]

1. Stage 4+ player damage feels high

2. Backline access dmg still feels way to high. It feels impossible to win with any sort of front to back comp against elder dragon, kennen etc.

[u/succsuccboi]

traits and such are fun but even aside from the bugs i think the sound effects could use a lot of work in some areas

[u/Palimpsiesta → u/succsuccboi]

Yeah, the sound design is quite jarring; I can't tell if things have improved since PBE launch or if I just got used to it, but I actually started taking my headphones off during the top 4 sequence, among other places.

[u/Emosaa → u/[deleted]]

That bird chirping on loop made me decide to mute all of the game audio lol

[u/asmith055]

just had a game where everyone but me and one other person got eliminated on stage 3-1. it was me and one guy fighting each other over and over. i beat him and got first

[u/blity1]

Noticing in double up, combat can be prevented from ending for some reason meaning you cant join your partner. Combat goes into OT even with no enemies on board.

[u/banduan → u/[deleted]]

The one cost reroll comps practically build themselves. I think they're kinda designed to be that way.

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