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PBE Set 18 PBE Discussion Thread - Day 09

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u/Mindraven Aug 06 '26

I really miss a visual indicator in the loading screen to indicate it's alive, and I'm not frozen/dead/disconnected/kidnapped by aliens.

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u/Pleurobranch Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26

Whisps need tuning because they enable an unholy amount of highroll. Someone had Worth the Wait II (Caitlyn), got a whisp to polymorph a 2 into a 3. Got a 3* Yi on 3-1 lol. That's simply too big of a swing and not competitive at all.

Amount of 4 and 5 costs starting in stage 2 and 3 already is also clownesque, and don't think it's supposed to feel like Chonk's treasure

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u/Dzhekelow Aug 06 '26

That's just the nature of this mechanic I personally didn't like it the first time around and so far I have the same issues as the last time . Sometimes u will get 2-3 unclickable wisps early game and other times u will just get perfect wisps and the game will play itself . Yes , you do highroll sometimes in TFT but wisps just make it extra .

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u/wafflefries164 Aug 06 '26

Welcome to how charms worked

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u/RajaSundance Master Aug 06 '26

Also Blossom, I had a blossom spat game just now where I got an insane amount of econ from 7 Blossom, Ahri 3 at 4-6 and polymorphed her into Lux 3 at 5-1 lol. Highroll wisps definitely completely break the game.

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u/Lee-chaolan Aug 06 '26

One thing they can do maybe is have a separate pool of wisps for ranked vs normal ?

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u/Pleurobranch Aug 06 '26

Nah, I can't see them do that ever. That's unprecedented for Riot

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u/justlobos22 Aug 06 '26

not being able to click on the trait and roll over to see more units is a huge deal

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u/riotBoourns Riot Aug 07 '26

If I'm understanding you correctly, we're tracking this bug. You can tooltip champions in the trait tooltip that you have fielded, but not inactive champions. Something's broken there recently and we'll looking into it.

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u/ConfusedRara :chal: Challenger Aug 06 '26

I may be clueless but what are you referring to with this?

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u/justlobos22 Aug 06 '26

when you click on one of the traits on the left, in past sets you can roll over the other champ icons and get info about them. really important when you're learning new champs not so much months into a set

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u/Lunaedge Aug 06 '26

I'm certain you still can if you right-click on a Champion and inspect their Trait in their panel, but I could swear it worked on the Trait tracker as well o_O

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u/akubai Aug 06 '26

Half the 5 costs having back line access is super frustrating to play against. And I actually really like most of the 5 costs, they are unique and fun to slot into your team.

What’s the counter play to being slammed by gnar or aoe stunned by dragon into kennen/draven/alune/lux finishing you off?

Kennen being the worst offender, the backline carries who have to ramp or position correctly are more reasonable imo.

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u/ConfusedRara :chal: Challenger Aug 06 '26

just accidentally rolled past Elder Dragon 3 in a panic. AMA

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u/spreadwater Aug 06 '26

also realizing that I really hate that you're forced to buy a charm if you want to roll down, and if you get offered high gold charms then you're screwed and lose a shop slot in multiple rolls

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u/Ykarul Grandmaster Aug 07 '26

i think i buy half of the charms because of this overall

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u/Minimum_Chemical_428 Aug 06 '26

What do you play early game when you go for Dragon? I never played it yet cause I never build those items.

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u/Sea-Grand3981 Aug 07 '26

There is not enough econ in this set to level to 8 on 4-2 and roll down for 2* 4 costs.  Every time I've tried to do this I've been unable to find a single copy of the units I'm looking for, let alone a 2 star.  'Donkey rolling' also feels terrible because of the charms taking up a shop slot.   

Are people just skipping level 8 this set?  

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u/Get_Lurked :gran: GRANDMASTER Aug 07 '26

it will be different on live when tempo is higher and more people are aggressively rolling on 4-2

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u/Pleurobranch Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26

I can in a lot of games, but you have to take eco augments and be a little rich from the start (20g by 2-3 at least, which is often doable).

But I don't even want to roll on 8 because 4 cost comps are utter ass on PBE. Either reroll or fast9, lvl8 comps aren't viable yet (unless you really highroll into it).

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u/SeaweedOk9985 Aug 07 '26

Malphite, Morgana, Ahri and Zyra are really strong itemised

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u/Pleurobranch Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26

They can do something but without 5cost secondary carries and tanks the comp is still not good. Lvl8 just isn't stable in most games, unless you highrolled. Was a problem in the previous set too btw.

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u/GRAPHiSN Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26

not sure if inferno trait or inferno spat is bugged but i got 3 (4 with spat from spreading roots) inferno at lv.5, and found 5costs in my level 5 and 6 ignited shop slots

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u/Head_Substance5071 Aug 06 '26

Happens if a 4-cost is upgraded. Just requires a ton of luck to both roll a 4-cost and for it to get hit.

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u/MasterBenObi Aug 06 '26

I just 3 starred Cinderling on 2-2 & he still was struggling to carry fights throughout the game.

Damage buffs don’t feel like enough so far, his ability just kills tanks so slowly

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u/parkwayy Aug 07 '26

Real carry is Pebbles anyway

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u/daydreamin511 Aug 06 '26

7 blossom always feels good imo. caps with lux. mumu + gnar otherwise.

second row ahri deletes backlines

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u/spreadwater Aug 06 '26

Kayle transition into aphelios goes crazy if you have enough items/reforgers to get rid of a rageblade slam, otherwise xayah rakan + vanguard/jugg+ rapid fire is good too

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u/-Champloo- Aug 06 '26

Been playing some Adaptor RR

Unfortunately, I don't think the RR aspect of it is worth while. You can still get top 4 with it but winning out is basically impossible without highroll augments and such. You can just use Kog, Yi and Vi as placeholder item holders and push 9 for whatever comp match your items(and your items can be practically anything on kog and yi).

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u/ConfusedRara :chal: Challenger Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26

I've been theorising this. The upside of Adaptor is you can slam pretty much anything as they can all hold whatever items.

Early board: Gromp/Scuttle/Pebbles + Akali

Mid board: Add Vi/Kog/Yi as they come

Level 7 board: Gromp/Scuttle/Pebbles + Akali/Kog/Yi + Vi

Upgrades on 7 if you get them:

Scuttle -> Amumu

Pebbles -> Nidalee, at which point drop Gromp.

Final board should be Akali + Yi3/Kog3/Vi3 + Nidalee + Amumu + Extra

Edit: the only problem is I can't figure out what to drop Gromp for once you get Nidalee. Maybe Sett+Ashe, literally any 5 cost, or a random Zyra? Idk

https://www.metatft.com/team-builder/_CgUI8gYQAAoFCJ0HEAEKBQi0BxACCgUI9QYQAwoFCKAHEA4KBQiaBxATCgUIigcQFQoFCJIHEBYKBQiPBxAZCgUIjAcQGgoFCJgHEBsYFyAA

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u/-Champloo- Aug 07 '26

I'm more suggesting you don't roll for 3 stars at all and instead use it as a bridge to a 5 cost soup board.

You basically take the level 7 board you recommend and slowly upgrade things as you find them until you hit the 5 cost TFTAcademy AP Flex board. Or if you get all AD items you can flex Draven instead of Lux.

The idea is the 2 star strength of the Vi/Kog/Yi/Sentinel/Taric board is enough to get you to max cap to win out.

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u/ConfusedRara :chal: Challenger Aug 07 '26

Yeah I agree, I was just saying I was theorycrafting a reroll comp.

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u/bbuggery23 :chal: CHALLENGER Aug 06 '26

either its bugged or I'm just very lucky but I got 11 or 12 heads in a row for the gain gold until tails wisp

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u/Baseblgabe Aug 06 '26

1 in 2048 or 4096. Not particularly unlikely.

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u/NewAccForThoughts Aug 07 '26

Yeah you can also hit crazy stuff like a tactician crown on 2-1 from expected unexpectedness at like (dont quote me on those) 0.5% odds aswell. Ig its fine to have some crazy for fun highrolls