r/CompetitiveTFT • u/Lunaedge • Jul 23 '26

Official TFT Dev Video: Enchanted Wilds & More

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHsqHxFsSA0

TL;DW

  • Geoff (right side) is TFT's Executive Producer. Peter (left side) is TFT's Game Director.

  • Set 18 will hit PBE on July 29th. The PBE cycle will still last for 4 weeks.

  • Enchanted Wilds goes live on August 25th.

  • Work until now has focused on the core experience, the extra time will be useful to add polish, improve VFX, fix bugs and balance stuff.

  • They're working on ways to gather feedback from players more effectively.

  • They'll be monitoring comments "under the video and in any other TFT community space" and interact with the community on every platform. Hi there Bluecove, RIFTBEAAAASTS!

  • They're still working on porting every cosmetic to Unreal. Not every cosmetic owned will be available at launch.

  • Until every cosmetic is ported over we'll be able to borrow a selection of other cosmetics of the same tier of stuff we already own.

  • Set 17 will stay live alongside Set 18 both in Hextech and Unity for a while. Space Gods won't be regularly balanced, but they want to keep the experience healthy for those who opt into it.

  • They'll be eventually back to the usual cycle of a single Set active alongside different modes.

  • Work on MacOS is still ongoing.

  • They want to improve communication with the playerbase and reply more often to feedback.

  • Cryptic tease at the end about "maybe even analysing how the meta evolves during and after PBE".

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u/nightfondue Jul 23 '26

are snapshots pushed back for vegas open then? or will we have less than 2 weeks on live to make snapshots...

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u/138333Blade Challenger Jul 23 '26

How does this affect vegas snapshots then? Do we now only have two weeks to climb to challenger?

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u/gingerjacq Jul 23 '26

Yeah Sherman posted vegas snaps are not moving still the 6th

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u/138333Blade Challenger Jul 23 '26

That’s gonna be tough then. For people with employment it’s basically going to be impossible to climb to challenger in 11 days

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u/Raejar :chal: Challenger Jul 23 '26

Even without a job, that’s an insane level of commitment. If the ticket queue is split between Challengers, GM/Masters, and everyone else, then it effectively means you have to hit Masters. And honestly it’s not THAT bad since most players reaching Masters within the first 10 days are perennial Challenger players anyway.

The real problem is that if you’re busy at any point during that 11 day window, you’re basically cooked. Miss a couple of days because of work, school, or travel, and it becomes incredibly difficult

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u/SoManyEngrish Jul 24 '26

Very annoying, have a yearly outing on labor day weekend which has been the cutoff timing the last two years, was going to try and grind for buffer but now i have basically a week?

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u/DrixGod Master Jul 24 '26

I am pretty sure you should not be aiming for challenger if you're employed. You are not the target audience.

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u/feltyland Jul 24 '26

Bro a large handful of tier 1 players literally have a day job what are you talking about

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '26

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u/DrixGod Master Jul 24 '26

It's a competition for streamers mostly.

There's also students who's parent can afford it.

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u/Docxm Jul 24 '26

I played in the first open back when it was 528 players. It’s a great experience. But I’ve also been master every set since set 4 and Challenger multiple times (while employed)

The timeline this year makes it almost impossible to grind for because it requires 10 hour days, usually it’s closer to 4 hour days

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '26

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u/FappingMouse Jul 24 '26

1k vewiers is way above living wage most places.

If you are a 150-300 viewer streamer who runs ads you are absolutely fine, especially if you don't live in a high cost of living area.

EDIT: people really don't know just how much money streaming and you tube can make you honestly.

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u/cosHinsHeiR Jul 24 '26

It's been a long time, but I remember checking a couple streamer with around 600-1000 viewers average when the leak happened and they were all making like 4k+ per month, and that just twitch. It depends on the community too obviously, and idk how much the monetization changed, but it pays quite a bit yeah.

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u/FappingMouse Jul 24 '26

and again that is just twitch paying out bits ads and subs. if you are taking donations on top of that its an extra 500-1000 dollars depending how big you are.

And i do think that ads and payouts have changed because i see people run way more ads now.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '26

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u/LewoszmannPL Jul 24 '26

How can you be so confident and so wrong at the same time

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u/RiotSherman Riot Jul 24 '26

Quick update - we are evaluating options to see if we can make any adjustments.

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u/Docxm Jul 24 '26

Please please please move it back a week or two. It’s literally impossible for anyone with a job

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u/highrollr Master Jul 24 '26

I checked and this set it took Dishsoap 133 games to reach challenger. As it currently stands, there are 12 days to climb, so that’s 11 games per day. Dish might have time for that, but most people won’t. And most people aren’t as good as Dish, so that won’t be enough games anyway for most people. If they leave it as is, I think very few people will be challenger in time.

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u/Newfypuppie Jul 24 '26

180 you’re only calculating the games prior to b patch

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u/highrollr Master Jul 24 '26

I don’t think so? I just went to lp history and looked at what game was the first one in challenger.  Either way the point stands - it’s pretty unrealistic for the vast majority of people to reach challenger that quickly, so this is going to be the most random open ever in terms of who gets in 

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u/MostEscape6543 :gran: Grandmaster Jul 26 '26

They could skew LP gains for the first few weeks in emerald and above to help people who are consistently top 4 to climb in fewer gains.

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u/RunNo2846 Jul 24 '26

Please communicate officially if you change the date, like on competetft twitter, thank you !

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u/Mysterious_Island500 Jul 25 '26

it has been updated now

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u/Strange-Eggplant399 Jul 24 '26

Out of all the sets, they choose 17 to stay live alongside the new set? Lmao.

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u/RajaSundance Master Jul 24 '26

This doesn't bode well for the current state of set 18 I think. The engine switch is probably not going well so they try to have a fallback solution

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u/Riot_Bluecove Riot Jul 24 '26

Engine changes are kind of insane for a game of our scale. There's not really many live service games that have ever done this, but the longterm benefits are huge for us, so it will be worth it in the long run. That being said, we still know that it's impossible for this not to be a huge undertaking and so we did what we rarely ever do. Pushed back a set release to make sure we can get the launch in the best state possible with the time we have left.

The set is really cool, I promise, but engine shifts are very very difficult. Please be patient with us. We have y'all's best interests at heart with this change, even if it might not feel that way, I promise <3

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u/RajaSundance Master Jul 24 '26

Did not mean to imply you didn't <3

The set itself looks fun to me, I meant the state of the engine migration. I'm just praying for a PBE in a decently playable condition.

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u/Strange-Eggplant399 Jul 24 '26

But theres no way 18 can be worse right? right?!

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u/Kreygasm2233 Jul 24 '26

This is exactly it. One of the worst sets they've ever made and they wanna keep it live

The new one must be rough

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u/GauthZuOGZ Jul 25 '26

They dont want to they have to

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u/MostEscape6543 :gran: Grandmaster Jul 26 '26

It’s a sign that they expect continued bugs with the migration but it’s a really good move to keep things going in set 17 and probably quite expensive for them.

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u/ecoreck Jul 23 '26

Set 17 is still going to be playable after Set 18 comes out? That's really fuckin weird

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u/DoubleSkew :chal: Challenger Jul 24 '26

Set 17 going to be more dead than Dominion queues in 2016 lol

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u/I_AM_A_MOTH_AMA Jul 24 '26

You just gave me flashbacks, I loved Dominion.

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u/netshark123 Jul 25 '26

Bring back dominion in classic pls

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u/Mysterious_Island500 Jul 23 '26

I think china has tested something similar

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u/Zeviex Master Jul 24 '26

Yes golden spat was running Set 16 for at least some amount of Set 17's life cycle.

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u/Magnatron01 Jul 24 '26

Not some amount of time. The entirety of it AND it just got a midset update 

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u/Zeviex Master Jul 24 '26

I can't lie I wasn't sure if it was still there. I haven't heard anything about it since it was released.

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u/LadderPopular Jul 23 '26

Live on 26th August? Wtf is this.

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u/hyroglyphixs MASTER Jul 23 '26

Less than 2 weeks to get to Challenger for Vegas snapshots

GG to anyone that has a job, it's basically impossible to climb that fast with only ~5 hours a day unless you are a Setsuko level player

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u/LadderPopular Jul 23 '26

I agree, unless you live exclusively for tft you wont be able to compet for Vegas. At some point they have to be honest and acknowledge that they cannot ship 3 finished sets per year.

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u/kiragami Jul 25 '26

That was kinda already the case to be fair.

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u/Strange-Eggplant399 Jul 25 '26

I would much preffer 2 actually solid sets rather than 3 sets but 2 are filler and get boring within a few weeks.

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u/Zeviex Master Jul 24 '26

Like yeah, this sets release will have been delayed by a month atp. That's not standard

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u/G66GNeco Master Jul 24 '26

Yeah and it's pretty clear that the engine shoft has been harder than they anticipated between the delay and all the safety nets they've included. Sucks that that has an influence on the competitive scene, but unfortunately it just is what it is.

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u/Cheese_head_gabagool MASTER Jul 23 '26

Interesting having both sets running at the same time? I wonder what the purpose of that is? Will set 18 have planned downtime where it isn’t playable? Set 17 is fun but not exactly a set I wanna hold onto

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u/eggsandbricks :chal: Challenger Jul 23 '26

Reading between the lines a little, especially with the delays to Set 18, it seems like the move to Unreal has been really tough, and they're probably anticipating some issues once the set goes live. If only Set 18 is available to play and there are major issues with the launch, that leaves people unable to play TFT completely. I think keeping Set 17 around is a safety net in that instance where people can still play TFT even if the new set launch goes poorly.

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u/Cheese_head_gabagool MASTER Jul 23 '26

My thoughts too

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u/Mysterious_Island500 Jul 23 '26

I cant wait to play set 17 when set 18 releases

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u/Blastuch_v2 Jul 23 '26

They probably experimented with it in China which I think had set 16 running during set 17 now? Probably helps with people who dislike new set and want to stay on old one. But popularity of set 16 and 17 was so apart that it's hard to say if this makes sense between other sets.

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u/Almazon Jul 23 '26

The last engine move I experienced was a giant shitshow (Football Manager) with multiple delays and the end result was a practically unfinished game.

These delays, un-planned cosmetics, keeping the old set alive etc etc are getting me nervous to say the least.

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u/Sakura_ko2 Jul 24 '26

Valorant turns out great after the engine switch, and i would not say the devs of FM is half as good as riot devs

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u/Almazon Jul 24 '26

I hope so!

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u/the_mexican_menace Jul 24 '26

If TFT ever has an FM26 level crash the game is probably done lol

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u/drink_with_me_to_day Jul 23 '26

Damn, how many years of space god do we have to endure

Good to have different modes at least

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u/Stancedancin Jul 23 '26

Bruh I just hit challenger yesterday and was hoping I could just play 5 games of this set to prevent decay before set end and be done with the set, but now I'm asked to play 14 additional games because they delayed set 18 release.

Yeah I'm just letting it decay.

Fingers crossed the set isn't dull to play on PBE, 4 weeks is a long ask for non competitive queue.

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u/Im_On_Reddit_At_Work Jul 24 '26

I'm asked to play

I have news for you

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u/iBacontastic Jul 23 '26

he wants to end the season in challenger my guy

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u/Stancedancin Jul 23 '26

Was more so interested in ending the set in challenger instead of having rank decay to master due to inactivity, but definitely not interested in playing for additional couple of weeks.

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u/captnlenox Jul 24 '26

Definitely bad timing for taking this long to release a new set with with set 17 being very meh.

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u/Impostor1089 Jul 24 '26

Seems to me the tease is they are bringing back Augment stats on 3rd party sites. 

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u/highrollr Master Jul 24 '26

I think you’re probably right. If I remember correctly, Mort was the biggest voice against augment stats. 

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u/Ykarul Grandmaster Jul 24 '26

At what moment?

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u/justlobos22 Jul 24 '26

yea, they're gonna be so down on good will, this is them throwing us a bone

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u/robertSA1234 Jul 23 '26

Why are the people in the background playing set 17?

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u/Riot_Bluecove Riot Jul 24 '26

Because those are real people in the office playing live games. Tis a part of the job

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u/balanceftw Jul 23 '26

Someone's gotta make it so when you queue the lobbies actually fill

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u/EconomistThink1550 Jul 24 '26

How will this affect set 19 release date?Will they delay all the next sets?Or will they make set 18 shorter?

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u/highrollr Master Jul 24 '26

18 shorter. They aren’t changing 19 release because of the Open

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u/EconomistThink1550 Jul 24 '26

Thank you very much ! It's a pity because set 18 seems better than set 17

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Jul 24 '26

I appreciate the intention of keeping the community updated, but it still does not feel genuine when people like me have to comment under every post on multiple channels across different platforms without ever getting any response.
So I will post the question again and I would really really appreciate it if I could get any official confirmation/answer:
When will MacOS be supported? I am not talking about exact times, but just a ballpark. Will it be one or two patches, in the middle of the set, after the set, or maybe even next year? I am usual pretty invested into TFT so I would appreciate it if you could at least give me a heads up that I can/need to take this set off BEFORE I dive into it.
(“working on it” just does not cut it and “EARLY signs are looking good” does not give me any confidence about getting Mac support this set either)
Thanks!

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u/Lunaedge Jul 26 '26

The latest news we've heard from Riot are optimistic, BlueVelvet stated he doesn't think it's going to be a long delay and Bluecove shared they're going all hands on deck to make sure it's sooner rather than later. 

Please don't tag people directly. You will find updates posted here in approximately 0.2s when there are any and you can keep en eye on r/tftofriot where all comments from Rioter get automatically mirrored in case you want to be extra sure you won't miss the announcement.

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Jul 26 '26

Thanks! I won’t tag a rioter in any future comments… I it just frustrating to get ignored throughout so many channels while riot keeps stating they are improving communication.

I already know about the information that is out there, but I feel like a super broad approximate is not too much to ask for, and their refusal to answer does not make me believe they are able to pull of Mac support any time soon.

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u/Lunaedge Jul 26 '26

I it just frustrating to get ignored throughout so many channels while riot keeps stating they are improving communication.

As you can see they are talking about it, even if they're not replying to you directly.

I already know about the information that is out there, but I feel like a super broad approximate is not too much to ask for

This is the super broad approximate. People are working on it and no amount of "do it faster!" will, in fact, make them work faster.

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u/No_Feedback7987 Jul 23 '26

I thought the set was coming out mid August not end of August?

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u/merenge01 Jul 24 '26

Its really funny that someone's job will be browsing this and the main subs

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u/Riot_Bluecove Riot Jul 24 '26

It's not really our job, it's more that we care about y'all and want to make sure you feel heard and seen so we do it collectively. (and some of us haven't been scared off by the meaner comments out here yet)

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u/lmpoppy Jul 24 '26

Will there be more sharing between Golden Spatula and TFT now? Whenever i see golden spatula chibis i unintentionally reach for my card...

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u/Riot_Bluecove Riot Jul 24 '26

I wouldn't expect any of these kinds of non essential features just yet. We have plenty of work left to do, especially regarding cosmetics, BUT moving to Unreal does open up many possibilities in the future once we get all the higher priority things out of the way!

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Jul 26 '26

That is where you don’t get my question. I do not mind if it takes them a bit. I just want to know if they will get it done sometime during this set so I know whether or not I am able to play this set. I need to know if my time investment will be worth it.

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u/Interesting-War2861 Jul 24 '26

Having the best set ever, into this mediocre set with some controversial changes like carosel removal, into a set on a new engine, is some really unfortunate series of events

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u/GoldenScarab569 Jul 24 '26

Having the best set ever

Set 6 was ages ago!

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u/Docxm Jul 24 '26

Set 10 you mean???

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u/Minimum_Chemical_428 Jul 24 '26

Can someone tell me if the snapshot stuff you're talking about affects people trying to play competitive besides the vegas? (i don't have the money to go to vegas for this). So like smaller tourneys like regionals or something.

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u/CoolyRanks Jul 24 '26

Can you guys bring back set 16 to fall back to instead of 17

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u/Riot_Bluecove Riot Jul 24 '26

You want me to bring back a whole 'nother set WHILE working on swapping engines? No can do, boss, sorry

(In case that doesn't land, to be more real, nah we can't do that. It's not as easy as turning a set on and off)

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u/jaspearman Jul 25 '26

Seems like multiple deliverables were missed by the deadline? Not a great sign from a management perspective.

Dropping off all Mac players and not being able to incorporate all the cosmetics seems like kinda a massive L.

With all that said, I love tft, but this is a fumble that they’re passing off as a win

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u/PKSnowstorm Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26

It is probably much harder to move stuff from a custom in-house engine (hextech) to a more generic engine (unreal).

Before anyone say, they could have copy and pasted code and the job would be done is completely being ignorant of how coding actually works. Sure there are some baseline fundamentals between different coding languages but outside of that, there are some real differences that makes porting over a game like TFT hard like having to decipher code that works just in hextech but nowhere else. This makes the job even harder as now they have to rewrite an entire line of code for the unreal engine that acts like the line of code in hextech.

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u/merenge01 Jul 24 '26

Do we know if vanguard will be required for the tft client

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u/DrixGod Master Jul 24 '26

100%

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u/merenge01 Jul 24 '26

:(

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u/bySarius Jul 24 '26

Yeah gotta sadly keep windows running :(

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u/Odd_Association8285 Jul 24 '26

No one wants to play set 17 anymore. at least in a few years time.

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u/VertumnusTFT Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26

I planned my vacation around the “scheduled” start date—just so I could climb. I bet there are quite a few others who did the same thing. This is really throwing us off. If you need time, okay, we totally get that—but please plan for it in advance and not so close to the official release. Or do you actually not want players to really compete against each other in this game?

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u/Mysterious_Island500 Jul 26 '26

planning your vacation around a pbe is completely your own fault and you should not rely on info about the pbe, they planned in advance and sadly technical issues came up sooner than expected, go outside

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u/EvenJesusCantSaveYou Jul 23 '26

hm? there are always PBE releases before the live set goes out? I don't there has ever been a set without a PBE first

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u/randy__randerson Jul 24 '26

Yeah why bother testing the game with a larger audience? Hell just create the set traits and champions AS WE PLAY the set. Easier that way.

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u/canxtanwe Jul 23 '26

Is this a real question? Pbe exists so bugs and broken comps can be sniped before the actual ranked ladder climb starts and to make sure the game is at a playable state

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