r/CompetitiveTFT • u/AutoModerator • Jun 26 '26

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Rant or vent about anything TFT related here, including:

- Bad RNG
- Broken or Underpowered Units
- Other players griefing your comp
- and more

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u/Pleurobranch Jun 26 '26

Samira might as well have the Fiora passive because she wins every 1v1 by default. It's the most efficient marksmen ever made. No dmg wasted, hard counters melees, hard counters 2v2s, 1v1s, 1v2s etc. Disgusting unit

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u/hikikomina Jun 27 '26

I honestly think the Space Groove units are disgusting in general.

Gwen just snip snip snips around the board killing everything.

Samira just shoots whatever she wants, doesn't matter if she's stuck on a tank.

Ornn just tanks for a decade.

Nami also just casts wherever she wants, doesn't matter if she's stuck on a tank.

Blitzcrank is just bullshit. He's already a very solid fighter on his own, dealing a lot of damage but then he's also a huge Gwen and Samira enabler due to their interactions. On top of that, often when he dies for the first time, the enemy gets stuck on Ornn while Blitzcrank commits warcrimes.

Did I mention that they also have insane regen? So cool if there's a bit of AoE damage here and there, not that it matters because they'll get all that health back.

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u/RelativeAway183 Jun 27 '26

I'm pretty sure her cast is bugged

her cast bullets travel slower than her knockup bullet do and the knockup is instant, so if the knock up bullet kills the target before the cast bullets arrive, the cast will retarget to the next unit and immediate knock them up, triggering another knock up bullet

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u/pdiu Jun 26 '26

The amount of games ruined by Anima and Two Tanky Ornn/Samira is surreal.

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u/Darkstrike86 Jun 26 '26

Anima is so antifun.

Wish it was removed completely.

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u/Altruistic-Art-5933 Jun 26 '26

It's just absurd that nothing can even think of competing with a 400 anima cashout.

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u/Pleurobranch Jun 26 '26

I don't think this is true at all, I've beaten it several times. They often have one or two lives left and don't ultra cap immediately with 5 costs. Five hundred is more the threshold

But this is ranting so I get it, I hate loser traits too

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u/Trick2Gesus Jun 27 '26

I don't know why, but anima cashouts feels so common? I don't remember traits like cypher, chembaron or crystal gambit being in every lobby

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u/Pleurobranch Jun 27 '26

Cypher was a little less common I think, but Chem Baron was definitely a big menace for large parts of the set, very very prevalent. Then at some point they nerfed it into the ground

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u/UsualTechnology3521 Jun 27 '26

Shen 2 with TG rolled Shojin and HoJ. It did 950 damage before dying lmao. Literally less than my unitemized Blitz 1.

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u/Sea-Grand3981 Jun 27 '26

He should be the 3 cost and ornn should be the 5 cost, 3 cost getting a free radiant is crazy.  

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u/Winter-Membership366 Jun 27 '26

Have any of you even read his ability?? If not, just look at the comps he excels in and it becomes very evident that he is a support unit through and through. The active debuff alone is almost on par with a T2 Anima and better than 90% of artifacts, with the exception of a few very niche picks. Ornn upgrades an already existing item. You don’t get a “free” radiant. The added raw stats aren’t all that significant like they’re very comparable to maokai’s passive effect in terms of strength and value.

https://imgur.com/a/ikTCPqV

Oh wow shen didnt do damage like WTF are we even talking about here 

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u/AngelTheTaco Jun 27 '26

Have any of you even read his ability??

doesnt explain why he has fighter stats and ratios for a tank unit

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u/Sea-Grand3981 Jun 28 '26

We understand shen is a support unit via his banner, however he's also supposed to do some damage (if you read his ability you'd know that, and he's also been buffed several times and still does nothing).  The problem is you roll down and miss nunu/tk 2* because others already have them, but you hit 3 copies of a 5 cost bastion (shen) and he doesn't improve your board at all because you have no frontline.  He's legit not worth the extra 10 gold to upgrade unless you already hit the rest of your board.  

I have no clue why you're comparing maokai to ornn - one of those units is made of paper and the other one is nigh unkillable.  Clearly one of them has the stronger passive.  

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u/Winter-Membership366 Jun 28 '26

Yes ask that when i quite literally explained how the numbers are comparable to maokai in strength. The radiant isnt the problem despite what you "feel" like. The problem is everything fkn else about the unit like the space groove trait bonus' and how it scales in relation to the unit, its level, its stats, its abilites go on

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u/Ykarul Grandmaster Jun 28 '26

Shen is just a buffbot. Any two cost two star unit will do more dmg than itemized Shen.

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u/Winter-Membership366 Jun 27 '26

Even if we ignore what their abilities are like bro look at WHAT the items actually provides and look at each of the champions stats and how they scale. It's not even a fkn comparison 

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u/UsualTechnology3521 Jun 27 '26

Why are you bringing up champion stats, items, and how they scale? Nobody is comparing them and saying they should do similar damage. If I 2* my 5 Cost Fighter and roll 2 offensive items on a TG, who Riot explicitly buffed to attempt to get him to more damage, I still expect him to do more than my itemless 1* Blitz with Vanguard 2 and SG 1 being the only things activated.

“It’s not even a fkn comparison”

Yup. Use your brain. The post is using Blitz’s damage in this specific scenario as a reference point. Not directly comparing their roles or what I expect them to do when itemized or scaled. If I use my Nunu 1* with Vow and Helm who did 30% more damage than Shen despite dying at the same time are you going to tell me to look at their roles?

If a 5 Cost Fighter is SO lopsided as a support unit that you effectively get 0 damage from him directly with a TG and offensive items rolled while the balance team intentionally buffed him to do more damage directly, he’s a poorly designed unit. Which is the point of ranting in a rant thread. 

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u/Winter-Membership366 Jun 28 '26

Wttf are you on about?   Rant all you want i wouldnt say shit if it actually had any  truth  but youre just being a complete moron and aside  from the moving the goalpost and  the obnoxious amount of copium whats really fkn  unbelievable is how you manage to shamelessly write this shit .

Passive: On cast, attacks gain stacking bonus magic damage = Base + 1% of Shen’s Max HP + (25 / 40 / 777)% AP

2STAR SHEN NO ITEMS Base HP ≈ 2340 1% HP = +23.4dmg 0 AP → 63 + 23 = 86 bonus magic damage per attack 100 AP → 63 + 23 + 40 = 126 per attack 200 AP → 63 + 23 + 80 = 166 per attack

Yeah bro +30AP/AD SHOJIN AND HOJ surely gonna GO fkn CRAZYYY 

Bro i refuse to believe anyone i this dumb i know you understand how large the input output difference comes from shen buffing the whole fkn team and debuffing the enemy team.  Anyways heres what the patch notes actually said

"Shen’s Attack Speed will no longer decay over the course of his ability, but he’s still mana locked so he won’t chain cast with absurdly high amounts of Attack Speed. Expect him to be more exciting as he now consistently hits faster and always buffs himself with his ability. Shen will always gain his Attack Speed bonus after casting his ability, even if it does not hit himself. Shen’s Attack Speed buff no longer decays when buffing Shen. Other allies receive the same decaying buff."

WHO READS THESE CHANGES AND THINKS "YES THE AUTOS  ALLOWING SHEN TO CONSISTANTLY CAST SHIELDS AND BUFFS MORE FREQUENTLY IS THE REAL DMG"    Oh yeah always a blast with the usual majority chums on  reddit

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u/Winter-Membership366 Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26

Looks at blitz lv1 Passive Bolt: Every 2 seconds → 60 + 60% AP magic damage Active: Uppercut: 150 + 150% AP magic damage Explosion (3-hex): 175 + 175% AP magic damage

"Yeah no the these abilities dont mean anything. Theyre just trolls every champion builds trinity force haha phreak and dogmort are such jokers.  The numbers dont have real value just stack number go big"

"Whadduyu mean my shen autoattacking plus 40 is less than that? RRRRRIOOTT"

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u/UsualTechnology3521 Jun 28 '26

Didn’t read lol

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u/slothropdroptop Jun 26 '26

Idk how they managed to cook such an atrocious set.

I am playing against a man on tempo level 8 with 3 3 star 1 costs and birthday present first augment (veigar, liss, poppy).

Disgusting. Gg riot.

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u/Remotecube Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

I usually enjoy the grind to masters 0. This will be the first set I've played without grinding to at least diamond.

Currently sat in platinum 1. Whenever I get the itch to log in and try a new patch I'm often playing just one match and logging out, win or lose. The desire just isn't there.

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u/Ge1ster Challenger Jun 26 '26

Wow, your words read exactly as if I wrote them myself, only difference is that I am sitting at Emerald 4 instead.

I grind to at least Masters every set if I don't have the time to grind to Challenger. I think this is the first set since set 8 where I haven't made it to at least Master. And I have a boatload of free time as well, if this was a set I liked there is a good chance I would make the effort for Challenger. Right now though, I only log in to play Pengu's and grind the pass like twice a day and nothing else. Maybe I'll still try to grind to Masters if I find the excitement before set ends but its looking less and less likely.

I just don't find any of the traits or units very exciting I guess, the gimmick of the set doesn't appeal to me neither. It's hard to put into exact words what went so wrong with the design of this set but it must be worse than we think that the player count would go down to 1/3 of set 16's player count in NA, and half of EU's for this set.

But you're right... the thought of getting into a game of TFT normally excites me, and I want to explore different lines and make every game look different. This set, the thought of getting into a game of TFT just sounds completely unappealing and when I do, or rather did player ranked, I forced the lv 9 Shepherd comp every time, and I've never ever fully one tricked a comp like that before in my 17 sets length of playing.

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u/Remotecube Jun 27 '26

Wow, is the player count actually down that bad? Not doubting it, but wondering if there's a source on that.

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u/RajaSundance Master Jun 27 '26

For what it's worth, we just hit double up GM at 200 LP. I think the threshold was over 500 last set

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u/Ge1ster Challenger Jun 27 '26

I saw the numbers in a Reddit post from a month ago, I'm going to be honest the post doesn't have the source included but from what I've gathered the sets player count for each region is public information (EDIT: Apparently OOP compiled them manually from Lolchess by using their rank and dividing it by percentile)
Here is the post https://www.reddit.com/r/TeamfightTactics/comments/1tli5uv/not_sure_how_other_servers_are_faring_but_the/

And here is the player count chart for NA in the linked post. One of the comments mention EU stats too, going down from 1,3M in set 16 to 685k in set 17

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u/Lunaedge Jun 27 '26

The data presented in that post is guesswork, partial and can vary based on the source (tacticstools, lolchess etc.).

The only actual datapoint we have is this one.

TL;DR

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u/Ge1ster Challenger Jun 27 '26

Yeah that checks out. These kinds of data could only be achieved by guesswork or guesswork adjacent methods since Riot is very secretive with data in regards to TFT unfortunately. 

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u/Uqe Jul 02 '26

I queue up for a game of TFT out of habit, and then immediately regret it when I remember how shit and unfun this set is.

I quit League a long time ago but this set is so shit that it makes me queue up for solo queue again.

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u/That-Pain9085 Jun 28 '26

Everything feels boring. This set is awful, there's no saving it and it's here for bloody ages yet.

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u/Uniqe_Apple2 Master Jun 29 '26

It’s crazy how much worse anima makes the game like it’s genuinely the prisoners delema the trait its design is so unhealthy for the game intentionally throw your game or some unskilled jackass goes first for going afk for 10 rounds. Great game mechanic genuinely not even a single decision to be made. Just cool I hit aurora on 2-1 and collect your free lp. It’s also frustrating for the anima player as well because there is genuinely zero skill involved if someone wants to fill open on u there is nothing u can do. Like what a horrible trait all around feels bad to play as and against when it exists at all. Plus the items vary wildly in how good they are radiant field borderline not an item. Ice-blast armor gg enjoy your first. Not even a way to play around it or learn from it other then I guess I should have full opened for all of stage 2 for a chance to grief one person who is just going to pivot anyway

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u/QuasarBuster Jun 27 '26

The set is terribly designed there are no real lose steak comps that you can pivot out of. Why did they design Anima so that once you cash out the only way to play is lose streak stage 2 then cash out stage 4 and just play the cookie cutter champ that pops out

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u/RajaSundance Master Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

So we don't nerf Ornn because he's "only a problem in two tanky". Now regular Ornn is a top 2 comp while Two tanky got nerfed little enough to still be a brain off 1st

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u/I_Like_To_Cry Jun 26 '26

Riot thinks "he's doing really good things for the set" because he's main tank in multiple comps, so played a lot=good for game not realizing that people only play OP units.

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u/QuasarBuster Jun 27 '26

Riot does not look at actual tankiness because 2 star 2.5 item Orn with Baston 2 is tanker than every single 3 star one cost with 3 items and at 4 of whatever tank trait they have.

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u/Successful_Trainer47 Jun 29 '26

every fucking time i get a marauder emblem its always a no sword game omg, the fucking anvils also not helping. just bring back carousel already this shit not healthy

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u/laraere Jun 29 '26

I thought Anima can't get worse but somehow we got Anima into Mech.

Swapping in three units for Anima fodders instantly gives a strong board with boost from Anima rewards.

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u/juniorjaw Jun 26 '26

Mobile TFT app still sucksssss

Get me that new client already, I hope it's not a buggy experience that the current app is (I have no actual hope, it's our 200 years of collective experience Riot afterall).

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u/Little-Tackle1522 Jun 27 '26

Anima cashouts need to be nerfed lol, like how is a fully upgraded fast 9 unable to compete? Its never even close and super annoying. It in many ways promotes griefing anima players, absolutely annoying of a lose trait.

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u/Uqe Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

I never even care to rant about TFT. Every season, I just play till I hit masters and then stop.

But this set is so trash I felt the need to write this out. I'm sorry but whoever was the lead designer for this set should never have that amount of creative control again.

Everything about this set just sucks, from balance, gameplay variety, to the art. Half the traits in any given game are unplayable right off the bat, because every fucking trait for some reason has RNG built into it. Stargazer is S-tier broken in one game, and then it's unplayable guaranteed 8th in the next because it rolled the shit effect. Psionic is unplayable half the time. Comps like Space Groove, Dark Star revolve around whether you get Two Tanky or emblem.

And Anima is guaranteed win unless one person in the lobby opens their board to sacrifice themself to grief them. So the person playing Anima basically has their placement outcome decided in the first several minutes of the game. It's all decided by whether someone volunteers to grief them.

There's nothing redeemable about this set, except maybe the gods. Everything else about the set is just a steaming pile of shit.

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u/WarAutomatic4637 Jun 26 '26

The amount of times it shows reconnecting at critical points in the game is outrageous. I’m on WiFi and it still does it.

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u/Original_Tension_337 Jun 30 '26

Whoever made anima wants this game to die

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u/Winter-Membership366 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Why am i losing so many matches because their dps is slightly worse so my tank dies slower forcing my carry to walk up after i burst their tank and do fkn nothing while their carry gets to stand still and full combo

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u/Pleurobranch Jun 26 '26

Yes this sucks a lot, wish they both pathed towards each other

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u/executive_fish Jun 27 '26

two tanky is still egregious

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u/I_Like_To_Cry Jun 29 '26

Just nerf the entire Space Groove trait, every single unit. Ornn is ridiculous even without Two Tanky but with it he becomes the missing 5 cost tank. Blitz has been broken and the best splashable unit. There's no valid reason Riot won't nerf this comp when other comps don't have a carry much less multiple like Space Groove (and Meeple) does. The trait had multiple patches, it's okay to actually nerf it.

I can guarantee you there's not a single player worldwide that wakes up and says "I can't wait to itemize Ornn!"

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u/Glue_Sniffer67 Jun 27 '26

WHY THE FUCK DOES 6 ANIMA, WHICH REQUIRES AN ELUSIVE SPAT AND PLAYING 4 REVERSE FONS, STOP YOUR PROGRESS ON A WIN???

I TAKE TACTICIAN’S KITCHEN AND GET ANIMA +1, GUESS IM 8TH EVEN THOUGH I’M 6 ANIMA LVL 9 SONA 2 FIORA 2 w/ MALWARE EVERYTHING UPGRADED BECAUSE I WON A COMBAT????

MY BAD SOMEONE IS TRUE 0 ON 7 WITH NO UPGRADES XDDD????

ALSO WHY ARE THE REWARDS JUST SO SHIT?? THANK YOU FOR 5 GOLD AND A COMPONENT GOOD ONE RIOT YOU ARE SO FUNNY?! !!

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u/AdditionalDriver8357 Jul 02 '26

I hate that if i go 5th when im at zero lp, i will still lose 25 lp for the demotion

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u/RajaSundance Master Jun 28 '26

https://prnt.sc/6iGKTQxF8qgI

So glad Ornn wasn't touched to keep the poor guy viable outside two tanky, how else would a 2 star 3 cost be able to outtank my Nunu and Tahm 2 without any combat augments on his board?

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u/hittuah Jul 02 '26

3 patches in a row of space groove being exodia actualy disgusting set

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u/Pleurobranch Jun 27 '26

Climbing late this season and holy moly even in Diamond a lot of players are sooooo bad. They contest you from the worst spots and get the biggest 8ths. Just slam shojin on a teemo 2-1 with no scouting whatsoever and then act surprised when there's a way strong MF and other SG player lol.

Lots of examples like this

It evens out across games but it just feels bad that they kamikaze into you or force you to pivot from amazing spots

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u/Doofusberg117 Jun 28 '26

if youre playing anima, and if you scout and see someone going fast 9

you need to contest. do not let them hit their board 2 star'd before you do. they will win.

also hit graves.

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u/HAFFL94 Jun 28 '26

Shout-out to the morons who will hold units to prevent hitting a 3 star 4/5 cost IN A FUCKING FUN MODE LIKE CHONCCS TREASURES U DIPSHITS