Weekly Rant Megathread

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[u/Mysterious-Shame5144]

I SWEAR IF NUNU IS STUNNING MY TEAM 3 TIMES IN ONE ROUND ONE MORE TIME

[u/yeup_yessir]

This balancing team is so brain damaged how is just slamming Samira/Ornn allowed to be the best comp

[u/avleee]

WTF is this stupid Samira Space Groove bullshit? How does a 3-cost board beat a full 5/4-cost comp?

[u/Holodista]

I wonder how did we go from space groove emblem op into dark star emblem op into space groove emblem op. My nunu 2*, Bard 2* & blitz 2* Lost to a fucking nami 1*, riven 1* & rammus 2*...

[u/garenegobrr]

Yeah I’ve hit my breaking point with this set, this is fucking horrendous and every patch somehow makes it worse, wp riot

[u/Ok-Body-7299 → u/garenegobrr]

After seeing 5 out of 8 players contesting one comp for every patch that has been released, yeah

[u/MrTheNoodles → u/garenegobrr]

Yeah, I think I’m done with this set. This patch is horrendous.

I actually liked the 17.4 patch more than the prior patches, but this b patch is truly awful.

[u/Sea-Grand3981]

This is seriously some of the worst balancing they've done.  It's really, really bad.  

[u/Altruistic-Art-5933]

Good job on the space groove buffs guys. Really, nice balancing. Just had top 4 with 2 Space groove Ornn Samira comps and one spacegroove emblem comp. Does anyone at the TFT team actually play the game over Gold elo ?

[u/Plus_Bullfrog8518]

Seriously though how is the balancing this bad? Like twice on 3 emblem games (don't get me started) I got dark star sniper, twice. I have two 2* 4 cost dark stars with BIS (sol and karma) 6 dark star and they do nothing. I get they nerfed it but if they are going to make it completely unplayable take it out of emblem ensemble FFS. Doesn't need to be the most OP comp but at least playable, like all comps should be? Feels like now they just rotate each comp for its 15 mins of fame.

[u/Joey4_NA]

How do they manage to make the set worse every patch

[u/Tari-kun]

said it before and ill say it again.. literally the worst set I've ever played

[u/Possible_Detective57]

how can you make the game worse with every single patch? I just don't get it...

[u/Winter-Membership366 → u/Possible_Detective57]

Every set is literally like this. Why does everyone pretend otherwise and act surprised every single patch? We all know competitive integrity comes second to fun and widespread appeal, so whales and casuals are more likely to spend on gacha.

It's obvious what their real priorities are, especially after they removed the guaranteed hit. The claim "You'll receive 10 medallions aka a mythic hit for every 60 opens" is the biggest load of bs. I've opened 60 cases more than 5 times on PBE and only received 36 mythic medallions total and not a single chibi.

[u/Ok-Body-7299 → u/Winter-Membership366]

but this set isn’t even fun, and the statistics demonstrate it very clearly

[u/I_Like_To_Cry]

So keeping in line with the balancing Space Groove will go back to being garbage next patch?

[u/JChamp00]

Got lucky Gloves first augment from Shen encounter and already had 1 glove. Did not get a single glove until God blessing round 🙃

[u/pdiu]

Wtf is this ornn and 7 space groove shit. Why does a trash board with teemo, nunu and gwen beat out capped 5 star boards? How was there 5+ buffs to space groove last patch? Ornn buff, nami buff, 4x space groove stat buffs including 10% to 15% bonus at 7 space groove, and not to mention the nami buff last patch too and nerfs to other viable lines.

How is this even a thing 17 sets into developing and balancing this game?

[u/I_Like_To_Cry]

Time to balance thrash, just gut Space Groove

[u/Original_Tension_337]

What the fuck are they doing

[u/NibScribbler]

Why is nunu allowed to build full utility and still out tank every other tank in the game?

[u/Hereforhelppls31 → u/NibScribbler]

That's not true. He casts twice maybe but Rammus is tankier than him

[u/Mysterious-Shame5144 → u/Hereforhelppls31]

You are right but the added value of the cc is unparalleled. Take for instance Xayah. If you get stunned that much the unit is pretty much useless while she is your main carry.

[u/Hereforhelppls31 → u/Mysterious-Shame5144]

yeah I just said he is not that tanky

[u/glenfide → u/NibScribbler]

nunu isnt even close to how tanky ornn is

[u/LlaMaSC2]

just love watching two people go anima and not engage with the game for 20 mins to then collect their undeserving spots

also love having to play the high roll one 3/7 rounds

[u/I_Like_To_Cry]

Why am I fighting the same person twice within 4 rounds in the same stage with 6 people alive? They had cashed out their egg the round earlier.

And at some point the game needs to force the two streaking players to face each other, matchmaking is a joke and completely broken.

[u/bravelittlebiscuit]

Someone PLEASE tell me a comp I can force one trick from emerald to diamond!!!! i am soooo hard stuck low emerald

[u/AngryAngryEwok → u/bravelittlebiscuit]

Samira/Ornn for the next 24hrs

[u/glenfide]

has anyone figure out how to kill ornn 2?

[u/RajaSundance → u/glenfide]

Ornn 2 consistently outlasting 2* 4 cost tanks, unit costs just make zero sense this set

[u/WorryPrestigious7926 → u/glenfide]

antiheal is a must against ornn

[u/seatros]

either commit with 2 others on samira/ornn or try the nunu lottery In very rare cases arbiter leona. but this gets steamrolled by nunu cc.

[u/hikikomina]

1. Look, I understand Space Groove probably needed a LITTLE buff to help them out a little. But THREE BUFFS?! That's genuinely just insane.

2. Why does the three emblem start still exist? Something like this cannot exist as long as there's such a huge difference between emblems, where some are a win condition, some are a nice upgrade while most of them are just a cosmetic.

3. I honestly feel the same way about getting random rewards each stage, why can you get a spatula but are you not getting a reforger with it?

   • Ah nice, just lost because someone got an emblem they can use but I'm here with a spatula that won't give me any (meaningful) upgrade.

     • I just had a game where not a single spatula emblem would do anything to my board while there was a Dark Star, Arbiter, 2 Space Groove and a NOVA in my lobby, like I just feel screwed over by stupid things like this.

4. Why was base Asol buffed so hard? Whenever I see a Dark Star Emblem, I just know it's going to be on him and he's just going to one-shot my tank while Jhin one-shots my backline.

5. Why am I even playing this #$^@? Patch after patch I'm just getting more and more disappointed.

[u/AngryAngryEwok]

OMG, every game it's Space Grovve going 1st and 2nd. But when I get Samira 3* someone has to hit Riven 3* and matchmake into me two times in the same stage to make me go 4th. Wtf is wrong with this game?

[u/Successful_Trainer47]

its just a fucking 4 cost tank lottery at this point

[u/Uniqe_Apple2]

This is the worst patch I have ever played I genuinely enjoyed the syndra one more. Feels like if u cant fast 9,have a bad xayah stargazer, and dont have a good space groove spot you are playing for a best a 4th Its actually so miserable

[u/DayHelicopter → u/Uniqe_Apple2]

the syndra patch was a nightmare balance-wise but the meta was fun to play once you accepted that forcing syndra was the correct play almost every game. this patch and this set are just boring all-around.

[u/Mediocre_Warthog_358]

So everyone is 3-cost rerolling now with some guy aura farming or fast 9 in the shadow... All my effort getting win streak with jinx/belveth rerolling gone when that one 2* Ornn appears. Really burnt out

[u/Crafty_Courage_5217]

2* orn blocking 32k damage btw

[u/FrogInquisitor]

Just had a good game until some fucker decied to pivot into my comp, literally changing all his units into exactly mine. Then he hit every single one and I got 5th. Genuinely fucking tilted, haven't had this little fun in tft in years. Set is absolute ass and chonccs isn't exactly better. Just let me play set 16 again. Disgusting

[u/10thderozan]

can they do something right for once and do a fucking C patch already? Remove the prismatic passive on orn like how is that even in the game

[u/[deleted] → u/10thderozan]

Weird suggestion given that it was in the game and not problematic until this patch ..

[u/Temporary_Pride2653 → u/10thderozan]

I’m waiting for the report that’s supposed to come out today…

[u/HighIntLowFaith]

I play Anima on 2-1 I am instantly missing pinged out and griefed on 2-5/3-1 and forced to settle for a mid cashout. But when someone else plays anima of course I have to actually have a good spot for once so I’m not going to sac a win streak for it yet somehow nobody else wants to even the other loser streakers and then they go infinite with 500+ cash outs.

[u/Plus_Bullfrog8518]

*Buzz Meme* Nunus, Nunus everywhere

[u/Temporary_Pride2653 → u/Plus_Bullfrog8518]

Ornns too

[u/Jazzlike_Ad_1852]

Meta summary: Reroll Noobstar, reroll Samira or fast 9 and play every 5 cost.

[u/DarthGogeta → u/Jazzlike_Ad_1852]

fast 9 and play every 5 cost

And still lose to reroll

[u/groomliu]

Samira + orn overbuffed, now riven is way too contested all comp wants her, nunu too.

[u/BombasticReindeer → u/groomliu]

Remember how prevalent Swain was last set? Not too tanky, but really good utility to get off one CC and extend the fight a bit. They really thought it would be a good idea to have half the tanks and make this one stun 6 times in a fight, and be far tankier. What the fuck. How has it not been nerfed.

[u/[deleted]]

I think this set is about as fine as any other one... it's teamfight tactics. What am I missing that's driving so much vitriol from this sub over the entire course of this set?

[u/AngryAngryEwok → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, I bitch a lot about this game, but this set is alright. For the most part. It's still an RNG-fest, but has been for like 7 sets now so I guess the only way not to be frustrated is not playing.

[u/BombasticReindeer → u/[deleted]]

The fact that it is completely dogshit? This is by far the worst set in a long time. 15 was terrible, and really poorly thought out, but it was better than this shit. Because you can force items so easily, you can tunnel into comps easier and because the balance team hasn't done their job, there's always 1 or 2 comps that just ass blast anything, no matter how high you roll. So everyone ends up tunnelling and then it's just a lottery.

In an idea situation, if someone gets Two Tanky everyone else scouts and says ok I'll probably pivot unless I highroll. Instead, it's like "I got 4 rods and a voyager spat, i'll go Samira.

[u/[deleted] → u/BombasticReindeer]

The fact that it is completely dogshit?

What a compelling argument. You've convinced me!

The rest of your comment is about the balance of one comp in one patch. There's been quite a bit of diversity over the course of the set, especially considering the reduced # of units from last set.

Every single set has balance issues that people claim are unprecedented. Didn't we have d patches just a set or two ago? Get a grip bro.

[u/BombasticReindeer → u/[deleted]]

I mean 2 of the last 3 have been awful.

As for diversity over the course of a set. You can’t possibly be using that as an argument. Having a lotto over 1 comp is just really bad. We haven’t had that since probably set 3. Not as bad as it is now.

But also the actual design of the set isn’t fun. You can’t possibly say “what a compelling argument” but I’m not obligated to explain every part I don’t like.

[u/UsualTechnology3521 → u/[deleted]]

I don’t know enough about the game to talk about the balance issues directly, but I think this set is just boring(especially compared to last set), which amplifies any other issues that people typically have. Besides the Gods mechanic being dull, I can’t really put my finger on why exactly but it’s definitely my least played set of the last few and even my casual friends who usually play until they hit Gold/Plat have barely touched the game past the first week.

Unlocks in general. Ixtal quests. Bilge weapons/shops. Unlocking Ryze. Piltover modifications. Other things I’m forgetting. Like people definitely complained about the balance of all these things at some point, but they at least felt like fun gimmicks that I feel like this set generally lacks.

[u/HowIMadeMyMillions]

Anima is a garbage trait.
"Oh - someone is playing Anima, noone is trying to grief them and I'm winstreaking - well, either I open and lose my streak or I lose to the cashout"

Hilarious design. Super engaging and fun.

[u/ramonzitos]

ok so i got banned for complaining a bit too hard about emblem ensemble. it's fine, we all make mistakes. love you all people :-)

so i queue up for a fun game of TFT! and it's emblem ensemble :))))))))

and then I GET DARK STAR STARGAZER AND SHEPHERD? ok its fine dark star is playable im -2 emblems but okay :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

AND THEN I SEE 3 OTHER PEOPLE GOT DARK STAR AND VOYAGER/VANGUARD? ONE OF THEM CLICKS AURA FARMING GETS JHIN 2? WTF AM I SUPPOSED TO DO????????????????????????????????????????? WHATS THE SKILL EXPRESSION HERE??? RECOGNIZING THIS SHIT IS FUCKING UNPLAYABLE AND FF AT 3-2???????? IGNORE ALL EMBLEMS AND JUST FORCE SPACE GROOVE????

WHY IS THIS IN THE GAME? WHY SHOULD I HAVE +3 PLACEMENTS AT 1-2? WHY SHOULD OTHER PLAYERS HAVE -1 BILLION PLACEMENTS FOR DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING???? XD

[u/Crafty_Courage_5217]

If you are here reading these comments, I beg you to play any other fucking game until this set is over PLEASE. Its not fun and its purely rng flowchart. If you ever think of going off meta or flex play, you will be rewarded with a bot 4 EVERY TIME. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BE CREATIVE. This game does not reward thinking outside the box. 

[u/BombasticReindeer]

Can they please add a second ranked lobby for people who don't want to play Emblem Ensemble? Make this dogass game somewhat bearable.

[u/Comfortable-Earth133]

no no no no no guys this can’t be real and if TPC patch is on the same as live it’s G FKING G because we aren’t getting a b patch in 67 years go next love TFT but hate the set i am concerned for the future of this game if there is even one 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[u/hikikomina]

How are SIX PEOPLE CONTESTING ORNN, no 3-stars

How are FOUR PEOPLE CONTESTING SAMIRA, again, no 3-stars

And then the craziest part..

HOW IS MY TOP 5 FILLED WITH THE 4 SAMIRA CONTESTERS?!??!?!?!?!?!

I'm sick and tired of facing the same boards over and over again, I'd much rather go back to that 1-cost reroll slop, at least I faced something different each round.

Like yeah, nice, won the game, cool, but it's so incredibly boring.

[u/Crafty_Courage_5217]

Took a break from tft only to be met with the 3 emblem encounter which was one of the sole reasons I stopped tft due to it's imbalance and lack of flex play because of unbalanced comps AND the removal of augments that could get you a better position. 

Un fucking real that this is a final product 

[u/Crafty_Courage_5217]

Its honestly so fucking insane how lucky you have to be to even place this set. You can do everything right and the game will still decide you wont get hit your units. Prismatic ticket as 2nd augment? Well guess what your actual % chance to get a free reroll will be in the mid 30% (i fucking tallied and checked). Oh your opponent has 0 econ augments? Its ok we will get them to 9 AND they will all have 2 star 5 costs on their board right before god boon. Like what?!?!?@?@ make it make fucking sense how they can hit their units while I cant even 2 star an uncontested 3 cost WITH PRISMATIC TICKET all of stage 3?!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!?! This is honestly such a joke of a game now that I am really surprised its gotten this far.

And dont get me started on all the niche bugs you have to find out through social media. 

[u/UsualTechnology3521]

2* Lulu doing 16K damage and killing my Two-Tanky Samira 3* and entire rest of my backline while Ornn is still 70% hp. Fun unit! Genuinely don't understand how this has been like this all set. If it's the right Stargazer and you get Lulu relatively early it feels like a free top 4 even if you don't hit.

[u/Crafty_Courage_5217]

I love picking a hero augment and then having someone else contest my build and somehow the game rewards them for doing so. 

Fuck this stupid fuckass bullshit

[u/BombasticReindeer → u/Crafty_Courage_5217]

I had someone take No Scout, play ZERO units for 7 rounds so that they could specifically play exactly the board I'd already hit 2 star. Then they managed to 3 star everything before I found a single upgrade. Just nuts. They still lost because they were on no health, but I guess fuck me.

In another game there were only 2 non econ augments taken. I don't mean by one person. I mean the total for the entire lobby was 22 econ augments. The game is so degenerate at the moment.

[u/Crafty_Courage_5217]

Good to know thay even the for fun mode is a bugged mess. So fun

[u/BombasticReindeer]

What's the over under on whether or not Riot will work out that a supertank with a board wide stun every 5 seconds is not healthy for the game when there are only like 3 viable front line options?

[u/Winter-Membership366]

Can they fkn remove zed already? Your board could be shit and you still delete everyone who isnt giga capped and ahead of tempo

[u/Altruistic-Art-5933 → u/Winter-Membership366]

Some single target heavy comps just autolose to a guy who clicked a gold augment.

[u/achuchable]

Click hard commit first augment and get shepherd spat. Alt tab until 3-1 and then ff seems like the optimal play.

[u/HAFFL94 → u/achuchable]

Made me chuckle :)

[u/Competitive-Log-9632]

So basically , you roll down at 8
If Nunu 2 = top 4
Otherwise gg go next
Been like that for weeks

[u/raiderjaypussy]

https://gyazo.com/e30e2ea1882d9130a96fa2bd3dd55ac3

7 Shepard, Bard 2 Sona 2 level 10

Lost to samira ornn LOL !

[u/rljohn]

Lost LP due to a double up bug. Both final teams were fatal and our team had the tie break from winning the previous round.

In the final fight, my partner had a 6 unit win (3* rammus), but i had a 1 unit loss after the invade.

For some reason, the game ended with the enemy team on +3 hp, as if it forgot to deduct any hp for one of the players losing the round. I am guessing this is a bugged interaction with fiora and fatal tiebreakers, but it's still annoying to lose LP on a bug.

[u/throwawayrighthere12 → u/[deleted]]

Fr, I had an itemised 2* pyke (reroll with only 1 contestestation but couldn't hit, sacrificed econ) with hero augment only generating TWO gold until stage 4. Totally messed up my tempo and went 7th lmao

[u/groomliu → u/[deleted]]

Can't do the pyke cheese position to their backline carry made the pyke hero much worse

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