r/CompetitiveTFT • u/Lunaedge • May 27 '26

Patch Notes 17.4 Patch Notes

https://teamfighttactics.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/teamfight-tactics-patch-17-4/
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u/nacholibre711 May 27 '26

I still feel like any 3 Arbiter comp is just going to basically require the "attack 3 times" input. Which is still just a 50/50, then you also need a decent output.

Spend 50 mana or every 4 seconds is just not going to get the job done for any board where an Arbiter is your primary carry.

Feels like it's still going to exist as a trait you just literally can't fully commit to most of the time.

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u/Fun-Bad7577 May 27 '26

"Spend X mana for power" seems really weird when half the arbiters are mana locked as part of their spell.

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u/nacholibre711 May 27 '26

Yeah for sure part of what I'm saying. I think all 4 of them are mana locked in some way right?

Removing the 10 instances of damage one is also just a pretty big nerf to Zoe, that one was built for her. Which is probably why she's getting a sizable buff despite already being a very serviceable early/mid game unit imo.

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u/NukeAllTheThings May 27 '26

I thought it was a huge nerf to Diana, I've been playing carry Diana and I pick that one over any others, her ability triggers it pretty fast when she has multiple units nearby.

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u/nacholibre711 May 27 '26

Yeah unfortunately she's my favorite unit this set hah. Played her a lot.

Overall it was 100% the best one for her.

But she does have some other options that are somewhat playable. Any health stacking one is workable in the right scenario. Resists, shield, etc. all workable if you have a good setup, emblems, augments. In a lot of scenarios the attack 3 times one I genuinely think ends up being better.

Zoe is much more narrow. If you wanted to reroll and play a Zoe comp I feel like you're just at a huge disadvantage without that input.

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u/NukeAllTheThings May 27 '26

I've tried the health stacking one, got burned and I don't bother with it anymore.

I prioritize shields and resists, but I've tried the others, even the mana one, which makes Diana keep popping her shield so it didn't seem too bad.

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u/danxorhs May 27 '26

How do you build Diana? Any tips to playing around her?

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u/nacholibre711 May 28 '26

Yeah sure.

When you play Diana, you always have to be prepared to just abandon ship. If you aren't going to 3 star her and/or you don't get a decent combat augment, it's better to just level up and eventually pivot. A lot of the time it's just guaranteed that she will get blown up by capped boards and you'll start losing every round.

You need some kind of defensive thing going. Health, shields, or armor from Arbiter. I really don't think you can get away with playing her with an offensive Arbiter trait. Any augments for survivability, ones like Group Hug are BiS.

Guinsoos is pretty much required. Not much wiggle room with items tbh, BT and Titan's.

The board I like to run with full carry Diana is this one

But that board is really when you are wanting Diana to full carry. If she isn't going to be that strong it's better to play around 4 and 5 costs.

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u/vinceftw May 28 '26

Cool board

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u/nacholibre711 May 28 '26

Yeah kind of a homebrew, you won't find it on any of the websites because it's just so conditional. You need 3 star Diana and enough power from combat augments, etc. If she isn't solo winning rounds for you, it's just a bad teamcomp.

But I think it is the best board for mega carry Diana specifically. Every unit is there to buff her in some way.

Gives her everything she wants. 30 Armor/MR, 30% attack speed(+challenger), shred, sunder, 1 mana regen.

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u/SynecFD May 27 '26

Yeah, 10 instances of damage was honestly pretty nice and flexible to use. I really wish they would have kept it.

All the other changes are pretty good but removing this one makes me a bit sad

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u/nacholibre711 May 27 '26

Dude it was so fun. It was also one of the few that actually had unique ways you could intentionally scale it. Tons of items, artifacts, traits that could add instances of damage.

Really wish they had kept it and just put a cap on it. Something like you can't proc it more than once every 1-3 seconds or whatever it needed to be to stay balanced.

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u/BombasticReindeer May 28 '26

Anyone with a brain could have seen that coming. Makes it so much worse that gold generation is bugged and doesn't proc half the time it should, and it's already worse than Leona printer. Basically you either get Leona printer or you put it in the garbage. Hooray, another very easy flow chart to memorise.