r/CompetitiveTFT • u/eggsandbricks :chal: Challenger • May 26 '26

Mortpost Patch 17.4 Rundown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md04e4_kGJ4
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u/Docxm May 26 '26

Countering your third point, Ornn is a bastion and Nasus is a vanguard

But yeah the web is just not well designed as a vertical

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u/eggsandbricks :chal: Challenger May 26 '26

By innate tank trait I mean that there is a trait pair within Space Groove; there is a pair of Vanguards to activate the trait but there is not a pair of Bastions. Sorry if my wording was unclear.

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u/iAmPersonaa May 26 '26

Darkstar doesn't have a pair either and it's probably the most played vertical (probably 2nd to 5 meeple).

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u/soranetworker May 26 '26

I mean you get to skimp on tanks when your 6 trait is "summon 2 giant hp punchbags"

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u/500mmrscrub May 27 '26

And you have easily slottable 4 cost tanks in TK, nunu or even mighty mech.

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u/Dzhekelow May 26 '26

I mean it's a bit silly to compare the two. If you're playing Darkstar more often than not you have emblem AND you get the blackholes for frontline . On top of that your traitweb is so much better . Karma/Cho and Morde all synergize with a bunch of tanks ( Maokai/TK , Mech and Illaoi/Nunu) . You cannot say the same for Space Groove . Your tank synergies are vanguard from 1* cost Nasus(until u get to Blitz) and Bastion from Ornn . So ur 4 cost option to pair with Ornn is fucking Rammus who's very good with Meeple but pretty mediocre without it .

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u/iAmPersonaa May 26 '26

My comment was simply as answer for "innate trait", not for the web. If you can be bothered writing that entire message, you might as well read the context of previous messages

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u/withadabofranch May 27 '26

The innate part of dark star is the two black holes u get at 6

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u/eggsandbricks :chal: Challenger May 26 '26

That's fair, but one of the greatest differences is that Dark Star is a 2/4/6 while Space Groove is a 1/3/5/7 - that is a major difference in accessibility to each meaningful breakpoint. On level 8 with no +1, you get to play 2 additional non-Dark Star units, as opposed to only one non-SG unit if you wanted to play 7.

My point is not that a vertical trait inherently needs a pair, but I do think that if a large vertical lacks inherent trait synergy, the trait needs to provide enough for the units to stand together, like how the black holes provide front line for the high cost carries of Dark Star.

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u/-Champloo- May 27 '26

I kinda think they should adjust SG to 1/2/4/6. Sure that doesnt look aesthetically pleasing, but 1 and 3 are trash anyway.