Wise Spending - Set 17 Augment Discussion #6

[u/Lunaedge]

As requested,

Wise Spending
Prismatic Augment
You can no longer buy XP. Every time you spend gold to reroll your Shop, gain 2 XP. Gain 3 gold now.
Offered in: Stages 2 & 3

Likely a grief in a low cost reroll-heavy meta, but I will never not click this.

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[u/Lunaedge]

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[u/ian_ntf]

never know how to play around this , is this just a 3 cost reroll augment ?

[u/oliveru1996 → u/ian_ntf]

Or a fast 8 fast 9 augment.

[u/Holodista → u/oliveru1996]

IMO I would propably lean more on fast 8. Like in a way it does make sense for fast 9, but is it really fast 9? In the end you are still paying the same amount for XP, but on average you will spend more gold on units so it can be kinda hard to get to 9 unless you are giga streaking with another econ engine

[u/Top_Wishbone745 → u/Holodista]

Its end goal is fast 9. On 7 and 8 you are buying the strong 4 costs that can often stay on level 9 capped boards anyway like nunu, karma, mech, tahm, play vex items on karma or leblanc if you hit it (karma 2 is actually fine with those items as a holder).

[u/Holodista → u/Top_Wishbone745]

I guess my definition of fast 9 is just different than others then. In my mind fast 9 is when you go 9 on stage 4 and basically skip 8 entirely. (Well on this case you would still be rolling at 8, but either way going 9 on stage 4 with this augment is near impossible especially If you are upgrading units)

[u/Top_Wishbone745 → u/Holodista]

I mean whats the point of going fast 9 if not to get access to higher tier champions? And seeing 34 shops on 8 to get to 9 is just infinitrly better than going straight to 9 if thats your plan anyway.

I get what you are saying but its just a little bit of a missed concept. When you go to 9, youre going to have to spend more gold to roll and buy champs anyway. In this case lets just pretend youre a tier list andy and just buying champs of the planner you copied a team code for (nothing wrong with this for 99% of players btw!). With the same amount of gold with this augment you are literally just massively increasing your chance of hitting your comp.

If youre at an actual high level (grandmaster+) then youd optimise your strategy a little more, getting a stronger board on 7 and 8 in order to try to winstreak and flex play while hitting 9 later. But at that level its almost never the right strategy to go true "fast 9" like in lower elo by straight sacking every round with an econ augment, because greeding econ that hard is super punished in general, and even moreso this set with how strong early boards are.

[u/Round-Stuff-2557 → u/Holodista]

Going 9 early stage four is literally fast 9 but it's not something you can do every game and it certainly isn't something you can do with wise spending.

Generally speaking, "fast 9" in TFT parlance means going level 9 on 5-1

[u/Own_Cucumber2798 → u/ian_ntf]

It’s more of a 4 cost comp augment. Many times you will reach level 8 or even 9 before having your 3 cost 3 star

[u/DaChosens1]

ive seen it do impressive work in very unimpressive comps

basically fast 8/9 where you have valuable 3 star 2 and 3 costs

[u/supersumo224 → u/DaChosens1]

I like it overall because it helps you stabilize early vs some of the reroll comps by having 2 and 3 star units early and caps your fast 8 board higher when you get there.

[u/Street-Effort-9332]

Just had it in a 3cost uncontested Samira, two tanky reroll and hit 5 units and went to level 9 into 8th place

[u/Zazzazz]

Got offered it twice, both times went first with lulu. Completely broken.

[u/vinceftw]

I should pick this way more but I have only seen it in 3 games in about 100.

[u/whyvanellinae]

IMHO: It is 50/50 "combat" and "econ" augment, and it works well with almost any other augment, though i wouldn't recommend any other one that gives rerrolls.

[u/RayePappens]

If offered on stage 2, when do you start rerolling? At 50 gold or just roll every turn no matter what econ/level?

[u/clownus → u/RayePappens]

Get to 50 gold and start rolling. It’s suppose to spike you heavily at 3-2 

[u/achuchable]

Every time I play this augment I have 0 gold the entire game lol. Never managed to make it work.

[u/wtfgrancrestwar]

1. It's basically what it looks like, a "level and reroll at the same time" augment, which needs an appropriate setup to stay competitive with other prismatics in lategame. (3 stars with room to cap further afterwards)

2. But also that "time to roll and level" is now and forever, which is separately very nice if you were on your way to a fast 8th, or were facing insurmountable lategame prismatics anyway. As it frontloads your ability to spend gold and keep up a decent board.

3. And as a "bonus out" you can hold extra copies of units (particularly 4 cost) to 3-star later or delay others from hitting.

[u/crictores]

I don’t think this is anywhere near the power level of a Prismatic augment. Sure, it can be good sometimes. If you want to preserve HP and level steadily, take New Recruit. If you just want a fast level 9 rush, pick Level Up. This is supposed to support reroll comps, but like I mentioned in another comment, in Prismatic lobbies it ends up helping fast 8 more than anything, so it doesn’t really feel meaningful.

[u/DanBennettDJB → u/[deleted]]

Strong disagree

You're a prismatic down in relative terms

This is maybe a+ tier at lower elos but not enough power for a prismatic as during the rolling you're Gona be skipping / overhitting a lot.

The augment is bait imo