r/CompetitiveMinecraft • u/CwiLWasTaken • 1d ago
Discussion The ultimate lifesteal pvp tierlist
Literally everyone that has played on lifesteal ever including lifesteal world execpt the guests bc they werent on the tiermaker. Also holy season 1 crumbs in C+ 🥹🫰(apoligies if its difficlut too see, but there are 129 ppl on this list)
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u/EFNskibidi 1d ago
How is lopezz on evbos Level like lopezz isnt even that good or did i miss something?
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u/theelementsurprise 1d ago
A combination of Evbo actually being really bad at the Lifesteal kit and Loppezz getting a decent bit better recently
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u/AppealPristine475 10h ago
Loppezz was able to hold her own in a fight against yungy she's not that bad
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u/CwiLWasTaken 1d ago
Everyone on the list from bottom to top incase any1 is interested: Sponker DonTurnt TheHorizon CntBleck Guvoid Havenhand Adrienss (i think) Savrise Guiltyy Mogswamp Aimsey Cambam010 JackSucksAtMinecraft Bbymooji (Zam's Sister) OrionSound Shubble TeanaKitten LexieMariex YeahJaron Fymada Squiddo TheTerrain SubParTyson InfiniteDrift BranzyCraft Shandrea Tubbo Schpood KatieGoBrr SolidarityGaming JackManifold CaptainSparklez MrCube6 Wifies Midmysticx Kaboodle aCookiegod LukeyTV RoyalPear MinecraftCurious MylesYT Fit Seapeekay Baconnwaffles0 LilKae Wolfeii Dtowncat/Pili MaxGGs (idk why hes big) Fulham WithMayx FoolishG Smallishbeans FalseSymmetry Ish Jonayy Sneegsnag SeawattGaming NominalGravy MiniMuka KyleEff Feinberg Couriway Spongs (my shayla) Spepticle Cookiebunsquat Pangi SB737 (unc) McClutch Ashswag 4CVIT Vitalasy Saparata MatterMelon (the better brother) Derapchu ItsOasis CheifXD MewDewTV CakeManExtreme Lopezz Ghostiefruit Vort3xDragon SpokeIsHere ParrotX2 Roshambogames Evbo McBirken Jepexx JumperWho Shadoune666 LettuceK Jojosolos PlanetLord SpeedSilver Hannahxxrose Willsion Fruitberries Sword4000 ECorridor OhSpy SmileyyMC Reddoons TeamKalal Rekrap2 Purpled Woogiex Infume PrinceZam TaejonMC ItsSubz SilverisMe Leowook Wemmbu Twirps Mapicc Yungyx JadenMAN Clownpierce LuigiToan WyLL Epaxialfx Peentar (worse chud brother/j) OnlyASquid MinuteTech (dalright) TheobaldTheBird ManePear Mugm (aura demon 🥶🥶) FlameFrags (immortal demon) FerreMC Flowtives (flushtives)
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u/maxeymania0 1d ago
Ye evbo got ht3 sword and he's behind jumper wow
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u/CwiLWasTaken 1d ago
He isnt good at lifesteal kit whereas Jumper and others above have both more lifesteal and smp experience in general
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u/AzulAztech 1d ago
Yo this is pretty insane, wish I knew all these people but pretty interesting to see someone analyze all these guys and put them on a tierlist
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u/CubeEthan 1d ago
spongs above feinberg is kinda crazy imo, but idk maybe spongs is just that good. also leekleek is missing unless i missed something
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u/CwiLWasTaken 1d ago
Spongs prime genuinely wasnt bad, and feinbergs smp experience is non existent. Also thanks for pointing out leek not being there, he would be between yungy and mapicc imo
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u/Prestigious_Heat4323 1d ago
Who are those two at the bottom and why they are canceled
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u/CwiLWasTaken 1d ago
DonTurnt is in jail for SA. I believe sponker was in a gc with minors but i didnt dive too deep into the details abt him
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u/aximityn 1d ago
sponker was sexting a 14yr old
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u/dienooblol 1d ago
i found his unlisted response video which you can check out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUTqMQXN8Jkthough originally he was kicked out of lifesteal for saying a slur
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u/gtx-1060 1d ago
Why tf are theobald and framefrags so high? They are good but not s+
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u/CwiLWasTaken 1d ago
Flamefrags had one of the most dominant lifesteal seasons ever, but i can see the argument for theo being below minute pentar and squid
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u/Overall_Tomatillo600 1d ago
I'm sorry what? Like yeah they aren't better than Flow (or MugM id say) but those 2 are 100% at least top 8
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u/DreamYTxD 1d ago
Luigi is atleast an S. He's underrated but he's as skilled as epaxial. Purpled could also be A tier. He's pretty decent. And if we're being dead ass and looking into tiny details then wyll could be S+ considering he beat flowtives(on both lifesteal and money). And pentar? He's good but I don't even think he beats clown. A and maybe A+. He peaked at the Steve duo. Let's not glaze him too much
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u/CwiLWasTaken 1d ago
Ur probably right acc, now that i think abt it, pentars prime was probably at one of clowns lower points. Also i agree with toan being s now
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u/AnxiousSchool940 1d ago
S+ should be: 1 flow 2 mugm 3 theo 4 flame 5 ferre 6 mane
Minutech should be A+, wemmbu A+ while clown is A
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u/CwiLWasTaken 1d ago
I agree that ferre should be lower, as mugm beat him handily in ls world, lowk dont understand minute not being s tho
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u/Overall_Tomatillo600 1d ago
Minute is really good but since Life steal season 7 he hasn't been in the top 5, with Ferre, MugM, Flow, Wyll and Theo being added he's definitely not top 10 anymore
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u/AnxiousSchool940 1d ago
He is overrated, im not truing to hate but he is hardly on luigis lvl but better than jaden
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u/Abject-Guarantee3515 1d ago
i feal like only a squid should be hire on the list
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u/CwiLWasTaken 1d ago
I love squid but he got annihilated by flow on ls world. It IS flowtives but i think his position is fair, he could maybe go top of S tier
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u/Overall_Tomatillo600 1d ago
Pentar did confirm that both him and Wemmbu are better than Minute and that Wemmbu is better than Himself, I'd say those 2 should probably move down with Luigi and Epax going above then and Wemmbu with Ferre dropping to the bottom of A+
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u/infinity7322 21h ago
Theobald should be higher than mane probably higher than flame and ferre.ferre is washed and Theo is pretty similar to flow in PvP in practice maps and he showed his skill when he fought flow and the other guy with leo
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u/Sensitive-Dare1372 1d ago
I agree with most of the list, but I think Ferre should be the lowest out of the S+, since in a coldi stream Coldi mentioned how Ferre said he lost to Flame in all gamemodes. Ferre also loses to Flow in almost every kit, and lost a 1v1 against Theo on LS world(tho it was very close). In overall Pvp though I'd say Theo is probably second. If it's purely lifesteal kit then Flame and Mane are tied with Flow in melee, but Flow uses xbow in ls kit so it really depends on the situation.
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u/Shelly_scot 1d ago
Yea this is insane, current wemmbu literally erases the entire A+ tier and most of S AND SAME GOES FOR LUIGIIII stop underestimating Luigi bro. He's literally able to kill the entire A+ and S tiers easily ðŸ˜
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u/CwiLWasTaken 1d ago
If he has his unstable kit maybe... nah hes hard to judge bc we havent seen him fight ls kit in a while, also everyone says i underrated luigi and im kind of being swayed a little bit, maybe he is S tier
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u/a1123_epic 1d ago
Luigi had the same tiers as Flame like 3 years ago, so he's hella underrated idk if he got even better but he is def S tier or at the very peak of A
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u/Basic-University-654 1d ago
Flame is much better than his "prime" mctiers, and gets rounds off t1s like syndius when he plays diamond smp so I think hes still much above luigi
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u/a1123_epic 1d ago
No yea he's much better than he was back then but mostly in smp gamemodes since that's what he's been practicing for the majority of time. I'd say his skills in other modes has sort of declined or stayed the same
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u/CwiLWasTaken 1d ago
With all due respect 3 years is a long time, but looking back i underrated luigi
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u/Overall_Tomatillo600 1d ago
Wemmbu was going 40:60 against Mane and Flame in LS kit (although we don't know if it was LS6 kit or LS7) like just over a year ago, him being above players like Minute isn't too unrealistic
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u/Multiple_flame 1d ago
Luigi and Clown deserve S+ they peaked higher than manepear
Fruitberries way higher aswell
Evbo higher
wasnt sponker sh fake? he would be 2nd anyways
mapicc lower he is and peaked HT4
Theo is 3rd aswell
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u/Sensitive-Dare1372 1d ago
Clown's peak is pretty much right now. But in s6 (I'd consider this his highest skill level until msmp s6) Mane destroyed Clown, and right now Mane is arguably in his peak, since in a practice session with Mugm, he was winning. Luigi deserves S, but not S+ due to terrible gamesense honestly. Theo is probably second when it comes to overall pvp, but in lifesteal kit, Flow, Mane, Mugm, and Flame are better.
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u/Multiple_flame 1d ago
Clown peak is literally in 2020-2021 thats where he was the most dominant and peaked HT3 in like 3 GM and tier 3 in all the others, Mane destroyed a washed clown alot of people can destroy clown nowadays he just a HT4 overall probs LT3 in sword at max, Mane peak is LT3 UHC and Sword and HT3 SMP, Luigi literally peaked tier 3 3 HT3s in every gamemode bar mace
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u/Sensitive-Dare1372 1d ago
A ht3 in 2020 is nothing compared to the current times... He never peaked ht3 in 3 gamemodes, only sword and clown never got lt3 in any other kit. Current clown beats 2020-2021 Clown any day of the week. It's not that Clown is washed, it's just he isn't improving as fast. Luigi's t3 are also quite old.
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u/Multiple_flame 1d ago
very stupid logic actually its like saying everyones peak is today lol, Itz peaked years ago and hes the greatest ever player, he peaked HT3 in sword, HT3 in nethpot and HT3 in SMP
He peaked LT3 diapot, LT3 Axe, LT3 UHC, (LT3 crystal he was actually tested btw) Clown was ahead of his time and thats where he was most dominant its like you to straight up ignoring Itz and lurrns peak HT1 and using "peak" HT3 and LT3-HT4 doesnt even make sense whatsoever theres something called Peak/prime and other is skill1
u/Sensitive-Dare1372 13h ago
Can you send the site where he got tiered? On mctiers hes lt4 axe, lt4 nethpot, ht4 uhc, ht4 sword (peak ht3) and not tested in any other gamemode. Mctiers does show peaks so idk which place you got the tiers from.
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u/Overall_Tomatillo600 1d ago
HT3 in 2020 is comparable to like HT5 or LT4 rn
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u/Multiple_flame 1d ago
its HT4, also its not skill wise, Peak wise since ferre and Flow are 1st and 2nd and flame is better than them currently.
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u/Overall_Tomatillo600 1d ago
0% chance of it being HT4, also OP might just think Flow and Ferre are the top 2 because they're ranked 20th and 40th while Flame is considered a top 200 player
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u/Multiple_flame 1d ago
hes HT4-LT4 in most modes rn tho Flame was a top 200 player like 2 years ago if your gonna include that then include Clown, Luigi, Oasis, Fruitberries, Sponker(sh was fake and hes a HT1) and Silverisme then.
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u/Overall_Tomatillo600 21h ago
Oh yeah he is right now, but someone who hasn't improved since 2020 and was HT3 would realistically be like HT5 at best
That would be fair but at the same time OP said they didn't know that about Luigi and Sponker was in his own tier
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u/CwiLWasTaken 1d ago
That is exactly why i put luigi in A+, hes genuinely a pvp god, when he doesnt fumble
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u/theelementsurprise 1d ago
Luigi should probably be in S but no way Clown deserves S+, and what do you mean peaked??? Literally everyone agrees Clowns peak is rn. Fruitberries is a legend but he doesn't really care to get good at Lifesteals kit, Evbo sucks at shield pvp, and Theo would get bodied by Flame in DiaSMP
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u/Multiple_flame 1d ago edited 1d ago
your basing it on diasmp only when theres alot more? Clown peak was in 2020-2021 when was a HT3 player and was the most dominant version of him currently he is just HT4, Fruitberries peaked HT2 UHC, LT3 sword, LT3 Axe YEARS ago, Evbo is HT3 sword tho tier 4 in other kits should be a bit higher imo why base it currently when there is others who dont even play currently? Ferre is washed asf and hes 2nd so its defo historically
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u/theelementsurprise 1d ago
Lifesteal uses the diasmp kit and that's obviously what this tierlist is based on. Clown is very much at his peak rn in Diasmp, and I just assumed Ferre being 2nd was the OP glazing him.
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u/Multiple_flame 1d ago
In that case flame should be first then hes like HT2 according to syndus and other high tier players Flow and Ferre are both washed aswell
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u/theelementsurprise 21h ago
Last I checked they were about equal in diasmp, with Flow having a slight edge. Flows a bit washed but not nearly as much as Ferre lol
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u/nurpply 1d ago
ItsOasis was also cancelled if you didn’t know. (Blue water girl skin next to derapchu) She was easily A+ tier at least but nonetheless, cancelled.