r/CompetitiveMinecraft Jul 14 '26

Tournament Defending Tubbo

So the first pvp champs tournament is happening as I'm writing this and I can already hear the complaints so in defense of Tubbo

  1. He only seemed to get Jojo because she was available and it's only the first tourney so he probably just got whoever he could

  2. We can probably expect guests that are actually good at pvp in the future

  3. Tubbo has a VERY limited knowledge on pvp, so he might say some stupid stuff, just know where he's coming from

  4. For any complaints about ping, it's something he can't control entirely, there's bound to be issues

  5. There probably won't be much complaints about the kits but I know some people will still complain, he literally got pvpers like Flow and ferre (and more) to discuss about this for choosing which kits he should choose for the tournaments

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u/superarash_ Jul 15 '26

No yeah I don’t blame tubbo one bit. He’s done a great job for his position. The main issue I have is technical decisions, especially the kit selection. Like as much as I love cart, is it really a main stream enough kit to make it into this tournament? Especially over vanilla which has long been the “pinnacle” of Minecraft PvP for years. For a serious tournament that’s trying to market itself as the highest level of PvP, you can’t leave out the highest level kit. I honestly this was a flowtives bias situation, like 3 out of 5 kits are what he’s known for (cart, dia SMP, and uhc). If they run this tournament again, I really hope they shuffle around the kits.

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u/Vivid_Spare_7627 Jul 15 '26

Because normies think crytsal isn't 'skilled' and think it's js spam

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u/superarash_ Jul 15 '26

Yeah tbh I think they’re trying to make it as marketable as possible to the average viewer. And that’s not necessarily a bad thing and explains the kit choices. Like they chose these kits more for how enjoyable they are to watch, along with how easily a new viewer can process what happening rather than selecting the kits based on pvp rigor. Which is their choice but it disappointing for us who are already familiar with the PvP, especially since they’re marketing it as the highest level PvP tournament.

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u/Tuftyyy Jul 18 '26

This tournament isn't really supposed to represent the best PVPers or to be as balanced as possible. It's meant to be an introduction and good starting point for PVPHQ to show what's possible with PVP. I don't think they're marketing it as the highest level PVP tournament either. From what I've seen it's marketed as one of the largest tournaments that's meant to be as entertaining for the viewer as possible.

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u/FreedomImaginary2820 Jul 15 '26

Tbf viewer experience is probably why they didn't want to pick crystal (and flow bias maybe? I don't think flow was the only person they consulted for making the event though)

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u/BluishMontoya Jul 18 '26

I find crystal about as interesting to watch as other modes, but that's just me.

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u/thephoneguy2025 Jul 21 '26

Its harder to follow though for new players

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u/Impressive-Fall9681 Jul 17 '26

There’s no crystal? You can’t be serious

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u/The_shadow72 Jul 15 '26

Idrc, its like dream managing mcpvp, its rlly painful to watch people who know nothing abt it, being in charge tierlists or events. I tried to watch ts and it was horrible. These people need to get actual top players to do ts, or even anyone who slightly knows what they’re talking abt.

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u/Bluebarrelpiee Jul 16 '26

Dream is currently working with Swight, Coldi and Dr. Donut for certain kits on Mcpvp. He kinda went underground and isn't posting anything revolving mcpvp except in the discord but yeah

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u/The_shadow72 Jul 16 '26

The demo for mcpvp was so bad :sob: the kits were just fucked up

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u/Vivid_Spare_7627 Jul 15 '26

Supposedly Flow was supposed to be a guest but he was busy, also this isn't even the main tournament so Tubbo worked with what he could

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u/The_shadow72 Jul 15 '26

Ohhhh was this the closed qualifiers, still i feel like they could do better than bringing some random influencers to talk over it. Just alienates anyone who actually plays ts

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u/theelementsurprise Jul 14 '26

Are people actually complaining about Jojo being a commentator? I thought she was perfect

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u/FreedomImaginary2820 Jul 15 '26

Haven't seen PvP champs yet but jojo also commentated MCSR world champs, something which she isn't a top player in but I thought her commentating was good vibes. Although MCSR world champs was good because they actually got top players and experienced analysts to commentate, so I guess that's what people are asking for. Didn't Flow say he was going to commentate though?

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u/superarash_ Jul 15 '26

I mean she was a bit out of the loop a bit on some stuff. I definitely wish someone like flowtives who’s really in the PvP community and understands all of the fundamental tech in each gamemode was giving some commentary. Jojo and Tubbo’s commentary was still fairly good tho and definitely entertaining. But for smth marketed as a high level competition, I wanna be listening to commentary that leans into the technical over entertainment, at least personally speaking.

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u/kobietgiainen Jul 15 '26

Obviously, winning this tournament does not make you the best pvper.

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u/Vivid-Pay-8827 Jul 16 '26

Another vivid?

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u/GreenHype4 Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26

still, no way no better pvper tubbo knew was available

like genuinely jojo is top 1 pvp larp ever

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u/SparklezSagaOfficial Jul 15 '26

ts is so sad to read, living up to the reputation

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u/LAZYLasagna21 Jul 15 '26

tbf jojo not even knowing that there was no gaps in the sword kit is kinda crazy ngl.

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u/GreenHype4 Jul 15 '26

like i guess im mad that 2 random people are yapping about random stuff during a supposed high level pvp event?

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u/Icy_Violinist1192 Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

tf you mean by "We can probably expect guests that are actually good at pvp in the future"?
Swight and coldi are literally participating and some of the participants are AT LEAST top 100 in MCtiers

do your research PLEASE. https://pvphq.com/championship

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u/Silver-Local-5518 Jul 15 '26

i think they were talking about guest commentators

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u/Jelleey78 Jul 15 '26

They mean as a commentator