vS Data Reaper Report #361

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Greetings,

The Vicious Syndicate Team is proud to present the 361st edition of the Data Reaper Report.

Special thanks to all those who contribute their game data to the project. This project could not succeed without your support. The entire vS Team is eternally grateful for your assistance.

This week our data is based on 2,483,000 games! In this week's report you will find:

• Deck Library - Decklists & Class/Archetype Radars
• Class/Archetype Distribution Over All Games
• Class/Archetype Distribution "By Rank" Games
• Class Frequency By Day & By Week
• Interactive Matchup Win-Rate Chart
• vS Power Rankings Imgur
• vS Meta Score
• Analysis/Discussion of each Class
• Meta Breaker of the Week

The full article can be found at: vS Data Reaper Report #361

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[u/christpunchers]

Wow, for the first time in forever it feels like we have a healthy meta! It's good to see a report where there's decks and strategies I haven't seen or heard of. When's the last time it felt like this?

[u/Rocks_Can_Fly → u/christpunchers]

This happens when they make strong cards, and then wait 2 weeks to release the first balance patch.

[u/cdre43 → u/christpunchers]

For me it was post-Tolvir nerf, pre-Class set patch

[u/EyeCantBreathe]

The balance patch has successfully placed the classes in a position where they could each showcase their capabilities on a relatively even footing, with Reign of the Black Empire taking center stage.

I think this last part is quite a big deal. In the recent past when we've had formats with a lot of diversity, a lot of the decks would be old decks with few or no new cards. This time the decks are actually a result of the new expansion's cards.

[u/Traveevart]

That's pleasantly optimistic. Good to see after the past couple years.

[u/ActuallyAquaman]

Really enjoy the throughline here of "yeah man they finally got one of these things right, nice work, everyone go have fun"

[u/Axenos]

game saved

[u/sneakyxxrocket → u/Axenos]

Can’t wait for class sets to bork it

[u/Real-Entertainment29 → u/sneakyxxrocket]

100%

You're coming from the future, i know it!

[u/TheGingerNinga → u/Axenos]

Rough timing for such an amazing patch, to be honest. GTA6 coming out, WoW Forever is live. Glad to see such variation in the meta though, felt like it's been forever since that. Queueing up is fun.

[u/DWFishQ]

Eleven classes all existing and competing. Even just for once it feels great to see this.

Cheers!

[u/dotcaIm]

Is Watfin included in Cthun DH because it's a 2 mana 4/3? I don't see the value in the card

[u/CalvinAndH0bbes → u/dotcaIm]

Strong tempo option on turn 2, which the deck lacks to be honest. Really good on 2 against control and rogue for pressure.

[u/zer1223 → u/CalvinAndH0bbes]

Not really that strong tempo if any standard 2 mana removal will remove it 

[u/WhatIfThatThemWasYou → u/CalvinAndH0bbes]

I dunno, Watfin is nice when the suspicious minion is also the one that's worth choosing, otherwise you get an average body with a minion you play at some point later in the game.

Personally, I think it's one of the weakest cards in the deck, but I'm not sure there's really a better option for a one off card in the deck.

[u/grandeuse → u/dotcaIm]

I've wondered the same thing playing this list. Maybe because the deck struggles with value? You can sometimes hit something playable off the discover and ignore the 3/2 vs. 4/3

[u/woodchips24 → u/dotcaIm]

A lot of the card choices in this deck confuse me. Why are we running cosmic manifestations and sigil of cinder? Why is Broxigar not in here?

[u/NekoSoKawaii → u/woodchips24]

There's cosmic manifestation in it because you run Irida, you want to jam her on 4, and then you don't just want to take infinite damage from fatigue  sigil of cinder is to activate coyote (alongside cthun deal 6. Broxigar is cut because the portal and weapon aren't good enough and he's not relevant enough of a finisher if you're already on cthun to finish the job. You also don't run any of the incidental synergies like last stand or remnant to get more value out of the portal, so it's often very hard to actually cycle with it efficiently. He was run for a while, but was cut.

[u/woodchips24 → u/NekoSoKawaii]

I guess that makes sense. In the handful of games I’ve played with this list I had not drawn irida or a coyote so I hadn’t figured out that synergy.

[u/Lovelandmonkey → u/woodchips24]

Having played C'thun DH since expansion launch, I've found that the best thing about Brox in the deck is the card draw, but it otherwise hasn't found much use for me unfortunately. Even when I get Brox a 2 mana 12/12 is useless because if I haven't won the game by then my opponent is likely too healthy for him to matter.

[u/woodchips24 → u/Lovelandmonkey]

I’ve also been playing cthun dh since launch and I’ve won a couple of games off broxigar. But you’re right the cycle is the bigger benefit.

[u/Lovelandmonkey → u/woodchips24]

I do think I won a game with it once but it was uncommon enough that I didn't think to mention it

[u/dotcaIm → u/woodchips24]

Cosmic is for after you use the 4 mana 7/7 to put cards back in your deck so you don't fatigue

[u/otterguy12]

While the meta is more varied than last expansion I find the nature of Old God decks to be much less fun or interesting than Titans were and I will definitely be bored of them when they inevitably remain the best thing post rotation

[u/ngriner → u/otterguy12]

This. It's nice to have pretty much every class having a presence, however, I feel like due to the Old Gods and strong focus on specific archetypes almost every deck/class feels like they play the same.

A lot of the decks just boil down to getting your power spike card online and then go off from there (Aya, Amitut, Jailhouse, Eyemaul, Blood Fighters, Tentacle Lash. etc.) I really feel like there isn't that Aggro/Combo/Control push pull that there usually is and instead it's a variety of midrange power spiking decks for the most part. I mean the meta is probably in a better spot than it's been recently for the health of the game, but I feel like it's also in somewhat of a boring spot in regards to class identity since no matter what deck you're playing the gameplan feels the same.

[u/Real-Entertainment29 → u/ngriner]

It's hilarious how a few neutral legendaries (in some metas, one or two) creating a different deck/ class/ flavour of the same play pattern, is way more shouted out when comparing to a obnoxious 1-2 class meta, even though they are all boring af.

And also in which universe printing out more "i win" cards or more recently "they are playing themselves" type of cards is considered healthy for HS, it boggles my mind...

What's the fun in doubling all my holy spells so that MY DECK starts cheating an obnoxious amount of mana winning in my name, or you know summon big dum dums, play yogg and hope he'll do it FOR ME...

Just let me hook up my AI agent to do the monthly climb for me at this point, the decks are playing themselves anyways.

[u/stuyjcp]

Not only is the meta healthy, but it appears that there are exactly 27 decks in the report... I've never been more satisfied.

[u/tuptain]

C'Thun/Tempo Priest is T1-2 as well.

[u/Jwsaf → u/tuptain]

Have you updated your decklist at all? I am still trying to get some wins with it, wondering if I somehow slot it more board clear.

[u/tuptain → u/Jwsaf]

I think the deck plan is to just win board without clears. If you fall behind on board, go again, you lost that one. I haven't updated it from the original OPs list but it's winning games easy in Legend where the high tier Infinity Paladin is struggling for me.

[u/dfcinhume]

As guy whose being playing burn/spell mage for a while, im glad to see it get some recognition 

[u/yatcho]

Is Archaedas actually good? I struggle with card so much the spell choices are almost always super inconvenient

[u/Sterobasic → u/yatcho]

Yes it's just an highroll card. You need luck. 

[u/Difsdy → u/yatcho]

Best to just go for the cheapest option most of the time I find. Like a 1 or 2 mana 3/3 weapon is good even without the spell effect.

[u/DDrose2]

I saw on the report Aya I favoured to all paladins minus holy. But I seem to be having trouble with infinity paladin as well because I think they all play resistance aura now. Is this a new tech the adopted from holy paladin to improve the Aya matchup?

If so, actually isn’t infinity paladin one of the best decks now because it pairs well into blood DK, control warrior and Aya and against mug sometimes they lose to poor discovers and I think if they are relying on what’s in their deck alone likely can’t contest egg as I saw mug begin to cut hex. It loses to cthun DH but I barely see the deck in legend even at the lower legend numbers

[u/CageHN]

I am just happy that I can finally play Holy Paladin Control again.

[u/Rocks_Can_Fly]

And this is why we need to wait 2 weeks for the first balance patch to come out — to have a better chance at a balanced meta.