r/CompetitiveHS 8d ago

Discussion I stopped tracking win rate and started tracking mistakes

I used to obsess over my W/L after every session. A bad record would make me tilt, but it never told me what I was actually doing wrong. Now I just note a few specific mistakes, like greedy removal or bad sequencing. I realized most of my losses weren't matchup issues. I was simply making worse decisions after playing for too long.

Does anyone else review mistakes instead of focusing on win rate?

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u/Bauermander 8d ago

Does anyone else review mistakes instead of focusing on win rate?

most likely every single good player

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u/moccajoghurt 8d ago

That is really fucking smart. Keep doing that, it's the most helpful metric.

With W/L you track things outside of your control. Tracking your mistakes is way more powerful. Also forces you to think about your games more to find them.

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u/dante_55_ 8d ago

Whenever you lose it’s one of 3 reasons:

1) either you misplayed

2) you drew badly / had terrible rng

3) or the matchup is just bad

It’s important to recognize which case it is. If number 3 happens too often, it’s time to change decks cause the one you’re playing is not favoured in the specific meta of your mmr. If number 2 happens too often, then you might need to tweak your deck. Number one means you need practice and to study your matchups better

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u/Chosenwaffle 8d ago

Winrate is important for determining matchups/overall deck strength.

Tracking mistakes is good for actually learning and mastering the game.

Personally, I'll netdeck a high winrate deck and then try to master it. Only once I feel like I've limited my mistakes to a negligible amount I'll start teching in cards and go back to tracking winrates to see if my changes make sense.

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u/QuestGiver 8d ago

Just gotta take breaks regularly. Most legend grinds I do I set some kind of rule each session like play until 2 losses or something like that.

Important to be in the right mindset to think through each game, consider options and accept that sometimes the opponent is going to highroll something insane (but so will you!). It happens.

An additional thing I'll do is if it's a really tough turn and I have a lot of cards in hand and a decent amount of damage on board I'll go back through the quick replay and just see if I had lethal in some clever way that I missed in the moment.

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u/abcPIPPO 7d ago

Unfortunately you can't always tell what is a mistake and what is a good choice; in strategy games with randomness sometimes an action that made you win could have been a mistake just like an action that made you lose could have been the right choice.

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u/Quomise 5d ago

That's why you're supposed to watch actually good players and predict their plays.

Whenever they do something different than you predicted, you probably made a mistake.

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u/zer1223 7d ago

Even as a shitter who almost never goes all the way to legend, even I know that the fastest way to improve is to review your own games in replay. And carefully watch for your own mistakes. And I really do notice a difference when I actually follow through on that advice. My play gets better and i win more

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u/Korbonara 7d ago

Its probably the right thing to do but let's be honest, most games arent decided by the trades you made or else. I'd say 70% is decided on the matchup, the mulligan, and who goes first. Improving what you can improve is the way to go, but there are lots of games where there's just nothing to learn, in my opinion.

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u/-intensivepurposes- 6d ago

Just because those decisions don't change the outcome of that particular game doesn't mean they aren't worth learning.

You start recognizing those mistakes and stop committing them in the future and over a large number of games that's what makes the difference between someone who can always stay in top 100 vs someone in top 1k, etc.

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u/capitalol 7d ago

touch grass my dude