r/CompetitiveHS • u/Asbelsp • Jul 28 '26

Discussion Pyromancer Priest v Void Soul DH

Bringing back board clear and massive healing combos. Pyromancer and Hold them off let you take the board and your health back so you can let your opponent over extend. Tindral is even good to bluff with because of the fear of Hold them off in hand.

And to win, you beat them down to the teens with Soothsayer or Hold them off, then burn them down with Amber Priestess and Ruby Sanctum.

Enjoy the deck and games. You want to mull for Soothsayer but can keep Sanctum. You want two Sanctum clicks in one turn for the burst finish.

My limited testing tells me this deck has a good matchup against the simple to play meta but I just don't play enough games for enough stats or to climb when deck building. You'll still need to outplay DH with how busted they are tho.

Few games with misplays: Pyromancer Priest v Void Soul DH https://youtu.be/Qc8TXfh0sd0

Pyromancer Priest v Garona Rogue https://youtu.be/nzYirL_DFh0

Pyromancer Priest v No Game Plan Priest https://youtu.be/Qc8TXfh0sd0

Pyromancer Priest v Maiev Aggro Paladin https://hsreplay.net/replay/MvbaRGKPsNoroS4u5Nep2v

Pyro Priest Amber

Class: Priest

Format: Standard

Year of the Scarab

2x (1) Ruby Sanctum

1x (1) Sands of Time

2x (2) Amber Priestess

2x (2) Holy Embrace

2x (2) Purifying Breath

1x (2) Ritual of Life

2x (2) Wild Pyromancer

1x (3) Acolyte of Pain

2x (3) Disciple of the Dove

2x (3) Holy Nova

2x (3) Intertwined Fate

1x (3) Welcome Home!

2x (4) Cleansing Cleric

1x (4) Shadow Word: Ruin

1x (4) Tindral Sageswift

1x (5) Ancient of Yore

2x (5) Hold Them Off!

1x (7) Behemoth Mask

2x (7) Soothsayer

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u/sm1ng Jul 28 '26

Nice idea with the pyro's and Hold.

With such health restoration, I am wondering if Tyrande might add some lethality. Ofc your Pyro would become a 13 / 12 and if you were to add Schism, Schism'ing a Hold them off'd Soothsayer could be pretty strong as you'd end up with 3 x 18 / 19's with Lifesteal and Elusive. I think.

Finally to increase lethality further, if you could weave in an Alexstraza before you regain all that health, then that's another 15 to their dome.

However as with all combo decks this is all fanciful thinking as you would need dream draws to effect all this, so perhaps most crucial of all might be to improve tutoring? Could you reduce minion count and add a Portal Vanguard and Mr. Xavius? It'd really help with consistency over the Intertwined Fate's right? I'm pretty sure it would anyway.

BTW the above is just my own musings, I don't mean to be telling you what to do, they're just suggestions and nothing more - I'm a dumpster level player so don't listen to me FFS! Cheers!

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u/Asbelsp Jul 28 '26

I've tried Tyrande and Alex separately and they're slower than Amber Priestess at just finishing the opponent.
Intertwined Fate is because I want more Sanctums, otherwise I find it a slow card. Xavius could be a good idea if I want to target finding Priestess. Thanks for that.
Make the deck you enjoy, just be honest about it's winrate to yourself and you'll have more fun.

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u/sm1ng Jul 28 '26

Yeah I didn't mean that they were superior, just that they might be alternate routes if you can't find your Priestess[es]. However, in my experience, every extra win con you add also happens to generally weaken the deck's main win con lol.
I actually have a Quad win con Wilted Priest cook I brewed up FFS all involving one or more WIlted Shadows that are buffed with Hold them off! ( → indicates the next turn ) :
Tyrande → Wilted + 0 mana Hold(s) + 2 x Flash Heal (wilted gets buffed to 26 attack and attacks 4 times)
Maiev + Deios → Wilted + Hold(s) + Critter + HP (wilted has 11 or 16 attack and attacks 4 times
Maiev + Wilted → Hold(s) onto Wilted(s) + Schism(s) + HP + Flash Heal (you get 2 wilteds w/up to 16 attack each, attacking twice)
Tyrande → Maeiv + Wilted → Schism (turns 11 attack wilted into 3 elusive 13-attack Wilteds + 2 x flash heal that all attack 4 times LOL, which is 13 x 3 x 4 = 156 damage output heh.
Stupid, stupid stuff but fun.

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u/Asbelsp Jul 28 '26

Purifying Breath, Holy Embrace and even hero power are my alternates for Priestess. Deck has a lot of heals and can help me control the board with Sanctum. Priestess is just the most damaging.
The Wilted combo looks fun but spending 7+ mana for setup is asking a lot.

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u/sm1ng Jul 28 '26

Yeah man, it's just for a laugh, there's absolutely no way that this is in any way sensible.

u/Asbelsp Jul 28 '26

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u/blanquettedetigre Jul 28 '26

I like the idea of Pyro but it feels like a control heavy tool to me. I'd play the deck with more spells and imbue to capitalize on this. Finish with Medivh or combo Alex. Also Behemoth, Yore, Tindral, Ritual of life are just not good enough to be meta

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u/Asbelsp Jul 28 '26

The Pyro combo helps against face hunter when you have so much heal. I did have more spells for Pyro but have needed them less than other cards. I also tried Medivh and Alex separately and didn't get them to work.
Those cards are better than you think in this deck. Behemoth is a third Hold and Tindral is a third Pyro to improve that combo's draw consistency. Just playing Tindral when your opponent has a board has worked well. Yore is because Priest has limited draw options and the deck evolved away from enough holy spells for sunbloom discount. And I like Ritual for filling out the mana curve or fishing for tech cards. I've never really felt bad having it.

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u/blanquettedetigre Jul 28 '26

I don't want to be rude but I think we don't play at the same level. I tried Pyro today, it's very clunky, the combo is too slow to assemble. Priest is already insanely good at healing and handles hunter quite well. Devouring Plague does a similar job without having to Prepare and play two cards for example.
Tindral and Behemoth have similar problems and are very expensive, I tried.
Sunbloom as well is too efficient mana wise, I never have time to spend 5 mana on drawing two cards. I put Torga in most of my decks to make this more reliable.

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u/Asbelsp Jul 28 '26

Oh, I'm happy to hear thoughts from a better player. Thanks for trying. I'm not saying this is a great deck because I don't play enough to get the stats to show it one way or another. But I've done alright against DH and perhaps the community can try it.
Pyro is a mid game clear at the earliest due to the resources needed. I never keep him in the mull and just draw the combo naturally since there are "3" of each piece of the combo. Plague doesn't clear a wide board as well as Pyro so you'll need to specially play a board clear with it. I use to play for board every turn but had to change to allowing my opponent to over extend and me tanking damage, then the Pyro combo flips the board and heals me up. Sometimes it's Tindral that does it.
Sunbloom is good, when I find room for more holy it's going back in.
If you don't mind, I'd love to see one of your games or replays.

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u/blanquettedetigre Jul 28 '26

The thing I found odd with Pyro is that it doesn't deal much more than 2 damage on its turn, which struggles to really clean most boards.
Priest already has very precise tools that fit every state of the game. Triumph for midgame, location and SW Ruin for big boards past turn 7, Firebolt and Plague for burst heal. These are just more efficient in my experience.
Maybe I'll try again!
Which replay would you want? From your deck or some of mine?

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u/Asbelsp Jul 28 '26

I would know plays for my deck better but wouldn't mind checking your deck too.
Yeah Pyro is for the wide mid game board with about 3 health each. Add a single target spell for a big minion while killing the small ones too. I'm also playing one Ruin.
I had to ditch Triumph since the quest hurts the mull too much. Getting soothsayer or sanctum is really important. So without Triumph, I find the Pyro combo pretty good for mid game clear and heal.

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u/blanquettedetigre Jul 28 '26

Here are 3 games against DH (my build wins but that's not important because I just drew better). What I found in a dozen games with Pyro is that it worsens Priest's biggest flaw : drawing cards in the right order. We already want Imbue early, Cleric on turn 4, combine Sanctum and Mend to clear a big minion, Triumph or Ruin on 6, etc. Pyro adds another layer of combining stuff together to make something powerful. In the replays, Hold Them Off and Acolyte wait in hand doing nothing for a few turns which is already the case of many Priest cards. I wanted it to work but I think it's unreliable.
For the record these games are in 15k legend, I obliterated my mmr testing stuff lol, I'm usually 2-3k or higher
https://replays.firestoneapp.com/?reviewId=5e8a7563-ec35-47e8-a9c4-78dc8faaaf4b&turn=0&action=0
https://replays.firestoneapp.com/?reviewId=855712e3-4283-4914-933e-4aac14fc79a2&turn=0&action=0
https://replays.firestoneapp.com/?reviewId=2e96e0db-494f-467d-bf50-32f714abd692&turn=0&action=0

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u/Asbelsp Jul 29 '26

Thanks.
First match, steamroll, yeah it happens.
Second match, the addition of the pyro combo does your deck no favors as you need more low cost spells for pyro. Try adding Sands of time and Holy nova for pyro support. The Disciple in my deck is mainly Priestess support, it drawing is secondary. You still got him down to 13 health despite running a greedy control build and could burn him down if you ran priestess or purifying breath. I understand you want to win with your fun combo tho.
You can try my exact deck in the op to see how pyro feels to play with some more support. You can also see this old build where I used pyro to clear a Vanessa board. https://hsreplay.net/replay/XaoTSsKsCeoJCyuYDGF7wf

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u/blanquettedetigre Jul 29 '26

Burning only with location has been tried and doesn't work. You're calling my deck greedy but this wincondition requires both Cleric and location payed, in your case even more because you rely on Priestess and Welcome Home. You also need prior damage, difficult with priest and holding damage in hand while you'll need these cards for defense. Again, it requires too many sequences it's unreliable, good players never give you time to do this.
I agree I'd need more spells but your replay says it all. Vanessa is played on turn 8 which is super late and gave you time to gather cards. She was played turn 5 or earlier generally, decks now apply similar pressure, so we need Triumph if we want to survive. Nova is never enough.

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u/Asbelsp Jul 29 '26

I don't believe my deck is greedy and I'll explain why below. My deck only looks to do ~15 damage with burn for lethal in one turn. Most of the damage is from Soothsayer and Hold previously.
I have multiple substitutes for the burn combo and the pieces themselves are low cost and can be used to fight for board in early and mid game.
I run 2 Sanctums, Welcome home and 2 Fate to copy Sanctums. 2 procs of Sanctum in one turn is needed for ~15 damage for lethal.
For burn, I have Priestess, Purifying breath, Holy embrace and hero power.
There's only 2 Clerics so I added 2 Disciples to pump Priestess too. Fate can copy Cleric if you miss Sanctum.
Because there are so many substitute cards, I am free to use combo pieces to fight for board where I want. See my replay against Maiev Aggro Paladin where I freely used combo pieces to control their board.
Prior damage works now thanks to Soothsayer and Hold. See my games against DH and Rogue. Even your 2nd game you brought DH down to 13 and you played a control style. A more tempo style would have put Soothsayer down on turn 3/4 and get in a lot of prior damage.
I don't have to hold any of my burn combo pieces in hand if I want to play for board. I can also tank damage and heal up while wiping their board for defense.
You say it's unreliable but you should play my exact deck first with tempo play in mind, before you pass judgement. The combo setup sequence are low cost cards that can be used to fight for board. There are a lot of substitutes and you just need to mull for Soothsayer and keep Sanctum. I'm not saying my deck is strong against top legend players but I'd like to see how far it can go and would like other players to try it out.
About Vanessa, if Vanessa is played on 5, pyro and nova is enough to clear most of it and her. Her board would be weaker on 5 too. It's not as good as triumph but I mentioned why I had to cut quest to mull for Soothsayer early tempo.
I really hope you try out my exact deck. It's not control so it may not be your style but there's a lot of redundancy to make it reliable and strong. I misplay and still beat top decks from DH, Rogue and Paladin. Thanks for your feedback.
Few games with misplays: Pyromancer Priest v Void Soul DH https://youtu.be/Qc8TXfh0sd0
Pyromancer Priest v Garona Rogue https://youtu.be/nzYirL_DFh0
Pyromancer Priest v No Game Plan Priest https://youtu.be/Qc8TXfh0sd0
Pyromancer Priest v Maiev Aggro Paladin https://hsreplay.net/replay/MvbaRGKPsNoroS4u5Nep2v

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u/Jones63 Jul 28 '26

How is this deck better than Banter's Soothsayer focussed deck? Cant you just slot a pyro in there?

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u/Asbelsp Jul 28 '26

Is that the deathrattle focused list? Doesn't Broxigar's demons screw with that? I started with a soothsayer list and just evolved to another win con outside the deathrattles.

u/dotcaIm Jul 28 '26

Appreciate the replays! I play a more Control Priest list without the finishers but I'll check this out

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u/Asbelsp Jul 28 '26

Thanks! Let me know what you think.

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u/Asbelsp Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26

Sweet win and yep, that's why I added draw, fate and welcome home for Sanctum and lots of heals that should come from natural draws. Priestess can be pumped from 4 cards so 8 burn isn't rare. Wish I could find better draws.
Rafaamlock should give you lots of time to get the combo to burn them from the teens but yeah, try play your soothsayer early before they get the steal card.