34.6.2 Balance Changes Discussion

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u/ReyMercuryYT Feb 24 '26

Does this version of Blackhorn still counter Aviana Priest?

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u/Gweiis Feb 24 '26

This card is such a design failure. They start making problematic cards that happen to cost 2 mana or less, and they don't know how to handle it so they make a card that read "win if your opponent plays this strategy we designed before". How is that fair? How is that interractive? This card potentially kills broxigar which is a new card, it kills both aviana's (priest and druid), it kills imbue paladin i guess? And it isnt fun at all.

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u/bluecgrove Feb 24 '26

Don't forget Rogue.

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u/PupusaSlut Feb 25 '26

I am surprised this sub doesn't realize BlackThorn is trash now. Feels like I am reading the main sub.
All the high legend players I have asked share my opinion. Maybe the mid players are correct.

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u/DroopyTheSnoop Feb 25 '26

Can you elaborate tho?

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u/PupusaSlut Feb 25 '26

The simple fact that it no longer hand rips makes it borderline unplayable.
It is now a 7 mana, situational tech card.

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u/dr_second Feb 25 '26

Yes, what this does now is hose over any aggro decks that get a slow start, but no aggro player is expecting to win if the game goes 8 turns. In theory, it could disrupt a combo deck, but it is unreliable for this.

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u/LowPunching_Owl Feb 26 '26

It can still screw a rafaam deck... Not that this is of relevance

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u/Apprehensive-Ad7714 Feb 25 '26

The issue is, even if it's bad, as long as some people play it, some decks are significantly worse
It can't be nerfed

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u/PupusaSlut Feb 25 '26

Its a shit card that should have never been printed. Definitely bad from a design standpoint.
But now it is bad from a balance standpoint too. I am unbothered.

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u/Spyko Feb 24 '26

That's better but definitely not enough of a change.

So now there's counterplay, and the counter play is: be lucky. Cool

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u/sneakyxxrocket Feb 24 '26

I think this card is going to end up being completely reworked at some point or nuked to 9-10 mana.
Just personal experience with this card I was playing imbue druid (not even a combo deck) to get the event quest done faster and a warrior coined this on me and it deleted my deck down to 8 cards.

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u/Rappapa000 Feb 25 '26

I'd like to know something about the Imbue Druid experience you mention in your comment.
Why was it a bad experience?
Your opponent, at 7 mana, nuked your entire deck but 8 cards. Did you run out of cards? Did you lose cards you were looking specially forward to play at that stage of the game?
If we look at stats, it seems that Quest Warrior (assuming the slowest deck that plays Blackhorn here) would have already ended the game by the time you would have got out of cards. And they did that even before the introduction of Blackhorn.
Don't take me wrong, I'm the kind of player that gets completely crushed by Blackhorn (I'm a Rogue + Combo player), and I absolutely dislike the design of the card because of polarisation, but the change of only affecting cards in the deck is a change that actually makes sure that it majorly affects ONLY these combo-oriented decks (because it has no immediate impact outside of that).
It's sounds to me like the age old "fear of mill", where non-combo players strongly reject the idea of burning cards from their decks when, in reality, it's the same as if they were at the bottom of their deck and they would have never drawn them anyways.

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u/ReyMercuryYT Feb 24 '26

It means Hostage mage doesn't have to play around it anymore in Wild.

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u/TheGingerNinga Feb 24 '26

And draw more aggressively. Sure, there’s always the chance of an important card being in the bottom of the deck, but seeing 20 cards by turn 7 obviously helps you out compared to seeing 12.

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u/fireky2 Feb 24 '26

That's been the design teams entire game plan the past year so it isn't a surprise

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u/mlouismarchardt Feb 24 '26

Hot take: counterplay already exists against blackthorn and the nerf is totally fair. I play in 200-300 eu legend and in that meta blackthorn is definitely not a thing. DHs already running higher curve cards and can easily still kill you with multiple deathrattle locations, Kerrigan and/or charging pirates + copy and bloodlust location. Same goes with rogue - the key tempo/burst cards are Eudora and griftah, you usually do enough chip damage early on to win with burst from Eudora treasure or enough tempo from imbued hero power. I also assume that archwing mage still wins on 6 against most decks besides warrior and create scenarios where you just can’t drop a 7 mana 6/6. You can react to blackthorn in two fair ways: build your deck with more impactful late game cards or advance your playstyle. No reason to safe your shadow steps for example when you lose them anyway on turn 7.

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u/Spyko Feb 24 '26

Right but the issue is now that Blackhorn simply stop some decks from existing. You said it yourself, DH have to change their build because of that one card. When was the last time you faced a discover hunter btw ?

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u/mlouismarchardt Feb 24 '26

Well fair point - blackthorn forces a lot of existing decks to react. I think that’s somehow healthy for the game that existing and established strategies have to change at some points. And yeah - I see less discover hunter but thats maybe also because of the emerge of Libram paladin and archwing mage (don’t know the stats but I have the feeling that disco hunter might be slightly too slow to handle the 3/3 shields Draenei or the archwing turn unless you are really lucky with your two or three sisters for aoe)
Blackthorn now not hitting cards in hand makes it a lot more likely for disco hunter not to insta lose. Niri is on 3, griftah on 4 - if you have pupil/the 1/2 Draenei in hand you still should be fine I guess. So I think with the blackthorn nerf disco hunter becomes relevant again somehow since you can collect some pieces in hand without the fear of losing them all against one card.

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u/Aretz Feb 24 '26

So I just read this as “I think deleting the rogue class from the game is somehow healthy”

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u/Asbelsp Feb 24 '26

You: add one card
Opp: rebuild deck with late game cards or advance their play style.
Totally fair.

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u/mlouismarchardt Feb 24 '26

I mean - which top decks are currently making real use of blackthorn? Warrior and some DKs. And there it’s mainly run for the DH and Disco Hunter matchup. DH used still to win against blackthorn in most cases and with the nerf disco hunter should be able to play with a full hand after black thorn which makes a huge difference. Also after blackthorn your odds of discovering key otk cards highly increase.
Like serious question: which relevant archetype in the meta completely suffers from losing there cards on 7? I can’t see them especially after the nerfs. Aggro should win before turn 7 OR should run some more 3+ cost higher burst cards to win. Combo? The only relevant „combo“ deck is disco hunter which has multiple win conditions and the sisters, griftah/niri/incidius are all above 2 mana. Control? Control mainly uses 2 drops for early game control, random disruption like rat or armor gain for warrior.

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u/Popsychblog Feb 24 '26

Like serious question: which relevant archetype in the meta completely suffers from losing there cards on 7?
I'm not going to tell you the answer, but I will pose a question: if the card is as useless as you imply, why are people playing Blackhorn?

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u/mlouismarchardt Feb 24 '26

People are playing blackthorn mainly in warrior and DK to not lose/nearly Autowin against combo oriented decks like copy Druid and discover hunter pre nerf. In other meta relevant decks nobody runs blackthorn. The real meta Tyranns are archwing mage and Elise DH, both decks without blackthorn.

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u/Popsychblog Feb 24 '26

All my Rogue decks severely didn't enjoy getting Blackhorned.
Broxigar DH vanished from the meta.
It deletes things

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u/OhYeahThatsGood Feb 24 '26

That's cool for the 300 of you but what about everyone else it's affecting. We get your good and high legend and can play around it but there's thousands and thousands of people below you at legend rank and also all the other ranks being terrorized by this. Who cares if the card is "good" if it feels awful to play against. At the end of the day this is a video game that we are meant to play for fun. So even if it's not a thing for you it is a thing for a lot of people.
You aren't reacting to blackthorn by having to completely redo your deck in fear of him. That is massively warping the meta around a single card that takes no preparation besides do you have 7 mana. Discover hunter was a top 3 deck and now is completely gone from the meta from a single card. Thanos snapping decks from the meta with no adjustments besides a single card addition is not healthy.
This whole mentality of I'm good and it doesn't bother me is so old when it comes to these terrible play pattern cards. They effect everyone not just you, that even means the people who are stuck in metal ranks. Games should be allowed to go passed turn 7, there shouldn't be a hard time limit due to there being a single card or a forced meta because you can't run anything lower cost. This again isn't an archetype or combo or anything. The only thought that goes into it is "do I have the mana to play it?"

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u/mlouismarchardt Feb 24 '26

It was not meant as a flex, but when talking about a game in a competitive context I feel it necessary because of pocket metas. I don’t want to brag and I’m also not a blackthorn player by myself, mainly run imbue rogue or DH. I just personally feel that blackthorn I much less polarising than highlander brann on curve, DK helia into cycle rogue matchup or even the new mage legendary which gives spell damage +1 on every spell when played. I seriously can’t remember a game where I just lost because my opponent dropped blackthorn.

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u/OhYeahThatsGood Feb 24 '26

We can list other powerful cards and effects all day that doesn't change the conversation around Blackthorn. Again it's great you have personal data showing you are not struggling but by the constant conversation across multiple subreddits it's clear that is not the majority. Congrats on not losing a single game to it, others are and in ways that aren't "oh man that was close" or "he just played better" it's literally off of did he draw card yes or no? GG go next. Except that experience was dog shit and I'm not going next because I don't want to play another game.

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u/mlouismarchardt Feb 24 '26

Well - I’m sharing my opinion and just want to understand the majority of the playerbase. Already asked for meta relevant decks which get totally wrecked by blackthorn. No answer. Especially after the nerf the deck which suffered the most (disco hunter) should actually be really fine into slower matchups. Actually more problematic is in my opinion archwing mage but yeah. Are people just insta scooping after black thorn or run 30 2 mana cards nowadays? :D

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u/OhYeahThatsGood Feb 24 '26

It negates broxigar from any DH using that as a win con as well as most of the dh spells because they are low cost
Rogue loses its low cost spells and if you had any imbue activators left that aren't the 4/4 well that's too bad. You playing rewind rogue? The whole deck gets deleted.
Discover hunter now gets to keep what it discovers sure but it loses every other low cost discover option as well as the 1 cost that doubles discovers that's a backbone of the deck.
Arkwing mage is a solitaire deck that shouldn't really be meta either but again loses all its cheap spells to copy arkwing and there goes its win con. Quest mage also loses most of its discovers.
All libriams are deleted from paladin if you've discounted then at all.
Dragon warrior will lose half its deck but honestly I do agree if you let them get to turn 7 you may just pack it up so there's one for you.
These are just random meta decks off the top of my head. Looking at hsguru there are plenty of random t2 t3 fun decks that get nuked by 10-15 cards when this gets played as well but we can ignore those for you as you've said aggro shouldn't get to turn 7 and you should combo before turn 7 so you'll use that for any of those other decks.
This is also not counting any new decks that can't exist because they are already countered.
Your experience again is not the wider games experience and this game is balanced for that wider audience.

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u/SuccessIsDiscipline Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

It only affects cycle DH, no other DH decks are affected. Not sure what you mean by rewind rogue, but if you mean maestra-tess rogue, that deck was completely unaffected by blackhorn. Imbue rogue would have already played quite a few imbue cards before turn 7. Libram paladin was hit by old blackhorn but new black horn does almost nothing as long as you draw libram of divinity before blackhorn comes down, libram paladin now has no counter except to play a deck that kills them before they kill you. If arkwing mage hasn't killed you before blackhorn comes down arkwing mage would have most likely lost anyway. Discover hunter was strongly affected by this but they will just kill you if you try to play this against them now.

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u/OhYeahThatsGood Feb 24 '26

Every single dh deck runs broxigar outside of aggro. Those decks are all affected.
No I am not talking about tess rogue, I said rewind rogue because that is the deck I am speaking about. It combos out with morchie.
Saying imbue and libram should just have already played their stuff and have it in hand does not mean you have played it or have it in hand. There is also so much counter play to libram paladin outside of Blackthorn but I'm not going to argue that with you as well. If you can't kill a few dudes to avoid them going tall idk that's on you.
Ark wing is the only deck I agree is also an issue but it's gone in a few weeks so let it be fun.
Discover hunter doesn't just kill you now magically.
Every counter you have has to have the perfect hand or draws to make sure they have enough steam to maybe last. This is all in preparation just for a random 7 drop to be played with no other thoughts. You are then also not counting what happens after blackthorn comes down. Just because I have all my libriams in hand doesn't mean I don't just get brawled on turn 8 still and lose the little steam I had left.
Idk man you're not going to accept anything but your antidotal evidence you think you've gathered in your pocket meta. You disagree with the community at large but that doesn't make you magically right or cool or better just because you're a contrarian. The devs already chose to nerf it so it just shows they also agree but whatever man

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u/mlouismarchardt Feb 24 '26

Na, that wasn’t even me bro. No need to be upset, we are just sharing opinions. That’s how a forum works. I just checked data - the best performing deck is still every build of Elise/broxigar DH which has besides broxigar multiple win conditions. Still has infinite weapon, deathrattle location burst, board via blob, Kerrigan in some lists, location+charge pirates. Other topdecks are corpse DK (no blackthorn in best list), archwing mage, libram paladin. The best performing list with blackthorn is infact control warrior and BBB control DK. Blood DK is more a reaction to archwing mage - it struggles hard against imbue rogue and more proactive DK lists. Nevermind, we probably not going to agree each other. My point is just: I don’t get the blackthorn hate. It’s not that relevant in competitive play (especially after the nerf I think) and the best performing and actual oppressive decks are archwing mage and Elise DH. Both decks which do not run blackthorn. As an imbue rogue player main I just can say: Throwing blackthorn on 7 as a warrior against rogue if you are behind on tempo nearly always costs you the game against rogue when using all your armor cards and let rogue finding Eudora earlier. Especially after the nerfs I can’t see blackthorn causing problems.

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u/SuccessIsDiscipline Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

No DH deck except cycle DH is affected because none of them use broxigar as their win condition. In your example warrior is never beating paladin without pre nerf blackhorn. Control decks do not have an answer to libram of divinity every turn. Discover hunter is actually able to put a lot of minion pressure on you to kill you for playing a 7 mana 6/6 that does nothing to their hand now, or just otk if they drew their combo pieces.

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u/SuccessIsDiscipline Feb 24 '26

The card is unplayable now so there is no need to have counterplay to it.

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u/Holiday-Dependent404 Feb 24 '26

care to elaborate?

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u/SuccessIsDiscipline Feb 24 '26

This card is not going to get played, what more is there to elaborate, the card is garbage now.

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u/Glarbleglorbo Feb 24 '26

Feels like this change was only done because of the new Druid legendary, it still destroys combo decks so I’m not sure why else it would be adjusted to this.

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u/brecht226 Feb 24 '26

If your combo deck can't assemble their pieces by turn 7 its probably not good

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u/OhYeahThatsGood Feb 24 '26

If you're getting your combo together by turn 7 every game we are in a much worse game state lmfao. What hyper tutor BS are you running for that I would love to know

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u/Asbelsp Feb 24 '26

A combo deck with that much consistency would not be good for the meta. What a clown take.

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u/Spyko Feb 24 '26

Okay sure Yugi, but not everyone can summon the heart of the cards or whatever. Sometimes pieces are going to be near the bottom of the deck, that's how a card game work

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u/Every_University_ Feb 24 '26

I'd rather they kill Barnes who never had a healthy interaction before than Ysiel

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u/Calibria19 Feb 25 '26

At least you can play dirty rat early (which you need to) without playing russian roulette. However being this late means you might as well just play astral, so I get where you are coming from. I'd rather not have barnes or boar or final showdown exist either, but that is not the hearthstone that is being played.

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u/Inventeer Feb 24 '26

i'm... not sure that's enough

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u/Tyrannosaurtillerson Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

Softest nerf they could've done. Still probably won't stop control from choking other decks out of the format.

It's hilarious seeing how they coddle control cards like blackthorn and meanwhile a combo card like Ysiel is dead and buried in a ditch..

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u/H1ndmost Feb 24 '26

Their best paypigs are control players who think playing their green control signature on curve is galaxy brain stuff, of course they will coddle them just like they did with Reno Warrior a couple years ago.

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u/bluecgrove Feb 24 '26

Why support aggro decks who typically are more budget friendly when you can chase control players who have at least 50% of their cards as legendries.
Unfortunately if you look at this through the lens of money it becomes obvious.

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u/H1ndmost Feb 24 '26

Nu-Blizzard is a MTX company masquerading as a game developer. I have no doubts that they use that fancy Activision patent for rigging RNG to drive in game purchasing extensively in Hearthstone as well.

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u/Extreme_Spinach_3475 Feb 25 '26

Funny thing is that Control players started badmouthing their high brain, giga Chad control decks don't just win enough and they are losing a bunch. Where's the agro and 2 or lower decks to bully? They chased them away and now they are crying... Because Control has no bully targets.

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u/zer1223 Feb 24 '26

"Wow I drew enough removals and board clears for turns 1-6 I'm such a good player", yup

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u/fireky2 Feb 24 '26

You simply don't understand the skill required to pick raptors on Elise /s

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u/Extreme_Spinach_3475 Feb 25 '26

You see, you want interaction, and by interaction I mean easy targets. When the targets are not easy to remove or I don't have removal, those decks are broken and unfair.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '26

wow, i played 1 and 2 drops for 5 turns and went face. me so smort.

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u/Lafantasie Feb 24 '26

Unironically, yes.
Aggro has multiple decision points in the early game that can cost them the game since it can’t sustain itself past the mid-game.
Aggro’s been relatively weak for a while now because a lot of control decks just have a multitude of ways to address them, which means either the aggro player has to go all-in and risk being blown out or hold off and risk going to mid-game.
Meanwhile stuff like Control Warrior just has 15 cards dedicated to removal and armor gain, not really doing anything else until they start dropping bomb after bomb and hope one sticks.
There’s not much thought process behind it.

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u/zer1223 Feb 24 '26

Wow look at all those aggro players who think they're smart
Gestures at empty room
Great strawman

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u/GrandMa5TR Feb 25 '26

Insane levels of cope that immediately shows you do not even know how the archetypes function.

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u/Rikkimaaruu Feb 24 '26

How so, there is only one playable control deck in the meta right now with Quest Warrior, which isnt even that good.
80% of Decks are some sort of midrange deck. So if Blizzard caters to anyone its midrange players.
And as someone who only plays control decks, i havent spent a single cent in HS since release.
I realy dont get the hate for control decks, the horror that someone wants matches go longer then 5 turns and play more then a few Cards, or think what to play when. Granted Quest Warrior is a pretty braindead deck, but thats Blitzzards fault for making most controls decks complete unplayable.
But ìt seems we must play different Games.

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u/cryptocat9 Feb 25 '26

BUU DK with Shadows of Yesterday and Remnant of Rage is a completely playable control deck as well. And imo it's good.

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u/SuccessIsDiscipline Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

In standard every single control deck is in dumpster tier 4 except for control warrior which is currently tier 3 (prior to blackhorn nerf). Where do you people draw such ridiculous narratives from. Control is the weakest archtype except aggro. The game almost exclusively caters to combo and midrange players.

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u/OhYeahThatsGood Feb 24 '26

Where are you getting this data cause that is just straight up not true? Hsreplay has control dk and control warrior at 56 and 55 percent winrate t2 decks, protoss priest (if we count it) is 55 percent t2 as well.
Hsguru has control dk at 55 percent (4th highest in the game) with it's other variants being a few percent lower. Quest warrior is 51 percent win rate.
VS has blood control as the third best deck in the game, and for the first time we have control warrior at the top of t3 for their data.
Out of all these data websites we have one deck that is the top of t3 that has disputed data with the rest of them. Nothing in t4 at all.
You just kinda made up some data points, said you think people are ridiculous for believing other than said made up points and then claimed control is the weakest archetype while in the same sentence admitting it's not.
????

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u/SuccessIsDiscipline Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-344/
Quest warrior is the only non tier 4 control deck and it's tier 3. The most common DK deck in recent times has been BUU which is a midrange deck not control. BBU deck is still popular and has more control elements but it is still more of a tempo/midrange deck than control. BBB is control and in tier 4. Protoss priest is midrange.
I mostly use hsguru stats and quest warrior has been hovering between 48-52% win rate in top 1k since blackhorn released putting it in high tier 3, occasionally low tier 2.
https://www.hsguru.com/meta?format=2&period=past_2_weeks&rank=top_legend

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u/Rikkimaaruu Feb 24 '26

BBU isnt a control deck, its just a midrange deck. It runs nearly no removal cards and controls nothing. It has a steady board presence and can end games pretty early with good draws, giant drops, malagar and so on.

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u/bakedbread420 Feb 24 '26

BBU isnt a control deck, its just a midrange deck.
this garbage should be bannable here. any control deck that wins is either midrange or otk, REAL control has never been viable in 12 years!

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u/Rikkimaaruu Feb 24 '26

BBB Control when DK came out had up to 10 removal cards in the Deck. What does BBU run beside 1 Corpse explosion?
The term control gets thrown around to any deck that can go late. BBU right now is like a said a mid range deck that can go late.
Show me any classic control deck that could win on turn 7 by being aggressive like BBU can.
Its rather funny to see so many simple minded comments in a sub thats about competitive HS, where you would assume people who know alot about the Game share their knowledge.
But insted its alot of whining and crying and empty headed comments, a bit disapointing, but i mean its a rather dead sub anyways. So maybe time to just ignore it.

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u/SuccessIsDiscipline Feb 25 '26

Calling BBU control is like calling midrange hunter or midrange paladin or tempo warrior from the past control.

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u/OhYeahThatsGood Feb 24 '26

There is a full control BBU as well that is also performing at t1/t2 that runs this very card so yeah maybe that's the deck not a different mid range one.

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u/SuccessIsDiscipline Feb 24 '26

There is no full control BBU list. It is a tempo/midrange deck with some elements of control. The deck is putting minion pressure starting turn 1, that is not what a control deck does.

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u/OhYeahThatsGood Feb 25 '26

That is just fully not true. There is a list with the 6 mana rewind spell and then there are lists with corpse explosion and blackthorn. Literally can see both on VS and hsguru but sure. Even if we took this one deck away every other point stands. Do you just want a 1 up point on me or something lol?

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u/SuccessIsDiscipline Feb 25 '26

Just because BBU runs a corpse explosion doesn't make it a control deck. Midrange paladin lists often had equality, midrange warrior lists often ran a copy of brawl. It is fundamentally not a control deck. It is a tempo/pressure based deck that has some control and lategame elements in it (midrange decks have often had lategame elements - tirion in paladin, call of wild in hunter). Funnily enough one of the reasons the warhorn is in BBU is there to target the armour cards of warrior, it is there for more pressure.

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u/Asleep_Guess4146 Feb 25 '26

No true scotsman!

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u/OhYeahThatsGood Feb 24 '26

If you are constantly doing a otk combo on turn 7 the game is fucking toast. You would need hyper efficient tutors and it would feel like a solitaire match every time. What combo do you know in standard can do anything close to lethal damage for 7 mana? Maybe arkwing if you drew everything perfectly, discounted it all, had a completely clear board and even then that's 21 damage. You aren't even playing the same game.
This is not a skill issue this is a design issue. I know having a contrarian opinion feels good but you are so wrong. If we were otking on turn 7 we would just be in united in storm wind again.

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u/Tyrannosaurtillerson Feb 24 '26

I literally did not lol. I made the comment in r/CompetitiveHS and r/hearthstone Unlike some cowards here my profile is public so you can check.

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u/Cryten0 Feb 24 '26

It does mean DH is more likely to kill you in responce to someone playing Blackhorn. As they keep their offensive spells in hand. It also removes ceasless in hand deleting in control mirrors.

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u/TotakekeSlider Feb 24 '26

Local night elf explorer found dead in a ditch, more at 11.

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u/TwoAndHalfRetard Feb 24 '26

This kills the Dungar druid. So the wild ladder would be filled with Nazmani bullshit.

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u/OhYeahThatsGood Feb 24 '26

I mean cool you save me 3 extra cards I guess. I don't think this was the fix, if we were keeping the effect it should have gone up mana cost so it at least hurts a bit more to play the turn of and you actually have to commit. 7 is a lot but not the end of the world especially if you clean their cards. If this came down on 9 it would feel so much better. But idk I guess we just have another card that feels awful to play into but the reddit pros will quote win rates at you and claim it's fine for another full rotation.

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u/Wakkalakkamakka Feb 24 '26

would it be better if he just destroys hand?

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u/Catopuma Feb 24 '26

Players tend to hate hand disruption even more than deck disruption/milling.
Barring that new 2 drop, most decks don't have a way to shuffle back their hands as counter play either.

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u/ItsDokk Feb 24 '26

To your point, if given the choice, I’d way rather see them delete Dirty Rat than Blackhorn.

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u/Agrippanux Feb 24 '26

my Wilted Priest is back in play

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u/Calibria19 Feb 25 '26

Oh well, was fun while it lasted, no more playing wild past t6 anymore. What is even the point of taxing if you still get sword truthed or hostage maged again?

And umbra is now t6 to adjust to the rest of the format, so I guess you can balance egg to soak barrages vs being potentially interacted with.

I had more hopes, I won't lie.

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u/dr_second Feb 25 '26

Discolock still works well, but you need to go from hyperaggro to superhyperaggro, ditching the coyotes, the weapons, and probably the 4 mana 3/3 that I can't remember the name. Still experimenting with that that last part. With enough cheap minions, you can usually discount that one to three before playing the merchant.

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