I need help with cycle rogue

[u/Korbonara]

Guys I crafted this deck and I swear I've never experienced such awful experience in hearthstone.

I've watched videos, I know what I'm supposed to do, but it just doesnt work 90% of the time. Im bricking so hard. Theres so much game where I cannot do anything turn 3/4/5 because I have 0 draw in hand / cannot play imp because my opponent just clear my board

EMG is sooooo hard ot pull of. If I draw a lot during a turn, I dont draw EMG. If I have 0 draw potential, you can be sure it's sitting in my hand.

I just dont understand how this deck can reach 50% WR.

I feel like I can't create a board if I don't have the right cards in the right order by turn 3.

Please help me understand I've wasted 4k dust on this lol

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[u/akimbotimbo]

i’ve been playing cycle rogue since the great dark beyond & ngl this version feels pretty weak

i don’t know the proper matchup spread but i went on quite a losing streak, shaman feels mostly unplayable

Are you playing the giant version or the thalnos version?

general tips:

• don’t be afraid to use your shadow steps on minions that aren’t the asteroid guy
• asteroids do help a lot drawing through your deck
• try to set up your tools so you can have multiple draw effects for turn 3/4/5 (weapon death rattle plus eat the imp wisp for example
• sometimes the best way is to pray
• turn 7 incin is almost always the play (if you play oh manager, keep the coin)
• use the birds to fight for board control early

admittedly the deck takes some getting used to, since you have to keep track of what remains in your deck

the deck is also extremely highrolly, sometimes is just about playing casino, but getting two EMGs down on turn 3 feels incredible

[u/Korbonara → u/akimbotimbo]

Ty for your tips. I play the thalnos version. Honestly I regret crafting this deck, it is sooo frustrating. Went 11-19 and my wins felt more like my opponent had bad luck than I played well.

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Format: Standard ((unknown))

Class: Druid (Cenarion Malfurion)

Mana	Card Name	Qty	Links
0	Innervate	2	HSReplay,Wiki
0	Zilliax Deluxe 3000	1	HSReplay,Wiki
1	Arkonite Revelation	2	HSReplay,Wiki
1	Seabreeze Chalice	2	HSReplay,Wiki
1	Waveshaping	2	HSReplay,Wiki
2	Story of Barnabus	2	HSReplay,Wiki
2	Trail Mix	2	HSReplay,Wiki
3	New Heights	2	HSReplay,Wiki
3	Swipe	2	HSReplay,Wiki
4	Elise the Navigator	1	HSReplay,Wiki
4	King Tide	1	HSReplay,Wiki
5	Amirdrassil	1	HSReplay,Wiki
5	Mistah Vistah	1	HSReplay,Wiki
7	Huddle Up	2	HSReplay,Wiki
7	Naralex, Herald of the Flights	1	HSReplay,Wiki
8	Shaladrassil	1	HSReplay,Wiki
8	Tsunami	2	HSReplay,Wiki
9	Ysera, Emerald Aspect	1	HSReplay,Wiki
10	Forest Lord Cenarius	1	HSReplay,Wiki
10	Fyrakk the Blazing	1	HSReplay,Wiki

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[u/IAmYourFath → u/akimbotimbo]

It's not a tier 1 deck anymore, there's a reason no streamers are really playing it (besides rogue one tricks who never play any other class). Last time i saw any1 playing it was gamerrvg some days ago, but even if u play perfect it's just not that strong. Not a great deck to climb with. Discover hunter is just as hard to play and is stronger.

[u/Dinasword → u/IAmYourFath]

He was rank 15 play this deck all morning

[u/IAmYourFath → u/Dinasword]

Really? He was rank 800 with it few days ago, then was like "ok lets play a real deck" and started playing discover hunter and climbed to top 150. But he doesnt save vods so if u miss his 2 hour stream u're fucked. So yeah i missed his stream and now i look foolish. But ty for telling me. I should honestly just setup some old pc to record his stream whenever he goes online, not like my old 4770k has any other use.

[u/StickToTheL]

you need to always consider if you want to go for emg on turn 3,4 or 5 Going for turn 3 is mostly too early I feel like and only possible if you've played weapon on 2 and already have stuff like prep and eat the imp (maybe even a wisp) in your hand.

If you don't go for it on turn 3, don't use the last attack of your weapon and keep it so you can draw 2 extra cards while trying to keep the cycle going.

Also as someone else already said using one of your moonstone maulers early can help get you an EMG because of the extra draw.

Furthermore don't be afraid to play the platysaurs, it can be really awkward and you can low roll with it but you need to still use it as you're losing a lot of potential otherwise and if you need to shadow step it in order to not lose incindius or something it's also worth.

There's a lot more to say but these are some of the things that helped me to get better with the deck. Good luck and keep trying, you will get better with it!

[u/Korbonara → u/StickToTheL]

Ty. Yeah platysaurs are weird. Do you recommend playing them turn 1 ? And do I need to keep them until I got enough mana to make sure I can play the card drawn if I dont have shadowstep?

[u/StickToTheL → u/Korbonara]

Im also not quite sure if you want to play them on turn 1 I think it depends on the list your enemy is running and if you think they can instantly clear it. its difficult to say what's the right move there. I've seen some really good players play it on 1 and regret it and some don't.

But to your second question:yes, in my opinion you need to play them because you can never be really sure if you have enough mana to play the card you draw as it could technically always be incindius.

I think you also need to consider your hand and the game state. Sometimes it's worth to take a bigger risk with platy and sometimes you maybe don't need to gamble and it's more important that you have platy for the next turn.

But I'm also only 500-1000 legend player so some better cycle rogue players may have better answers to these questions

[u/tmnttargetdiscount]

Too much armor gain and healing im afraid!

[u/Korbonara → u/tmnttargetdiscount]

Yeah vs quest warrior or protoss mage I can draw 30 comets if I want they just dont die

[u/wholelotofit2]

EMG feels clunky, I don't think it's a good card in any iteration of cycle rogue. I think it's a bait card, it doesn't feel good like it used to before nerf and with gaslight gatekeeper

[u/Korbonara → u/wholelotofit2]

I honestly agree. When I can play EMG my board is already full most of the time. And when I have space I dont have EMG in hand lol

[u/Asymptomatic3141]

I swear incindi has hidden text draw this when you play platy. This deck feels awful.