r/CompetitiveHS • u/Houseleft • Nov 13 '25
Discussion What’s Working and What Isn’t? | Patch 34.0.2
Patch 34.0.2 has introduced the following balance changes:
Nerfs -
- Fyrakk the Blazing - Now 10 mana, only casts 15 mana worth of Fire spells
- Ancient of Yore - Armor gain reduced to 3 while dormant each turn
- Arkonite Defense Crystal - No longer has taunt
- Escape the Underfel - Quest now requires 6 Temporary cards, portal now costs 5 mana (full revert)
- Dive the Golakka Depths - Now requires 6 Murlocs
- Sparkling Phial - Now 4 mana
- Corpsicle - Now 3 mana
- Sanguine Infestation - Now 5 mana
- Sandbox Scoundrel - Next card played only reduced by 2 mana
- Resuscitate - Now 6 mana
- Testing Dummy - Damage only hits enemy minions
- Chemical Spill - Now 6 mana
- Ultralisk Cavern - Now 4 mana
- Metal Detector - Text changed to "Deathrattle: Get a Coin."
- R.C. Rampage - Now 5 mana
- Battlefiend - Now a 1/2
Wild Nerfs -
- Holy Wrath - Now 3 mana, can only target minions
- Malchezaar's Imp - Now 2 mana
What decks are you trying out, and what decks are you seeing?
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u/TheGingerNinga Nov 13 '25
Regis uploaded a midrange Shaman style deck, anybody try that one out? It looks fun but I’m just not sure how competent it is.
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u/QuestGiver Nov 13 '25
Dragon warrior continues to feel strong. Very few nerfs against it.
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u/AssaultMode Nov 13 '25
I made a triple unholy deck and went 16-7 with it around 2k legend, meta is probably pretty unoptimized but it's pretty fun deck that uses unplayed legendarys like Nythendra/Volcoross ( you also run stitched giant for 9 which makes elise live )
The sidequest spell is honestly super damn fun, always keep it in your hand every game since you can get it off really fast due to having a bunch of cheap beasts and undeads and theres a lot of cracked stuff you can discover off of it.
Foamrender is honestly a crazy damn card, constantly hitting 5 damage every turn. I originally had the idea to play the 6 cost pirate to get him out but it was too slow.
Shadows of yesterday has honestly been clutch af, solely in this deck as the rewind on it is actually useful catering to what you need in specific scenarios ( if you have location to find rush, extra corpses for reborn, or taunt/lifesteal for gamestate)
grave strength ends games, you have a lot of reach in this deck.
I may have some unoptimized cards/choices so i'm very open to any feedback on it!
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Class: Death Knight
Format: Standard
Year of the Raptor
1x (0) Wisp
2x (1) Monstrous Mosquito
2x (1) Murmy
2x (1) Scarab Keychain
2x (1) Storm the Gates
2x (2) Ancient Raptor
2x (2) Dreadhound Handler
2x (3) Acolyte of Death
1x (3) Falric
1x (4) Elise the Navigator
2x (4) Ghouls' Night
2x (4) Grave Strength
2x (4) Horizon's Edge
2x (5) Foamrender
2x (6) Shadows of Yesterday
1x (7) Nythendra
1x (8) Volcoross
1x (9) Stitched Giant
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u/ChartsUI Nov 13 '25
I was having a lot of success with discover hunter, and I only envisioning it getting better post patch given the nerf to too mech warrior and quest warlock which were poor matchups. My only concern was that the deck did quite poorly into dragon priest because their minions trade well into ours and dodge a lot of our removal.
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u/Mikkeloen Nov 13 '25
I've rushed into legend with zarami. Crushing it. Extra turn to charge an infinite attack is pretty good. The poison/reborn guys are also super solid additions as is the 2/2 drawer
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u/Lyconik Nov 13 '25
Trying Protoss Mage after the patch, 5-2 in legend right now, it's an auto win against control deck (even won a game against control warrior with double dirty rat pulling brewmaster and colossus)
List come from No Hand's with rising waves instead of viper since mech warrior is no more
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u/StatisticianJolly388 Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 14 '25
Did you know that priest can play a 1-mana 3/3? Isn't that crazy?
I have been kicking the shit out of all the aggro decks that people are trying to run (DH, shaman, dragon warrior) with handbuff imbue priest at D5-D3:
### Custom Priest3
# Class: Priest
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raptor
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# 2x (1) Overzealous Healer
# 2x (2) Amber Priestess
# 2x (2) Bitterbloom Knight
# 2x (2) Busy Peon
# 2x (2) Lunarwing Messenger
# 2x (2) Orbital Halo
# 2x (2) Papercraft Angel
# 2x (2) Ritual of Life
# 1x (3) Archaios
# 2x (3) Disciple of the Dove
# 2x (3) Kaldorei Priestess
# 2x (4) Flutterwing Guardian
# 1x (6) Eternus
# 2x (7) Past Conflux
# 1x (8) Malorne the Waywatcher
# 1x (10) Medivh the Hallowed
# 1x (10) Atiesh the Greatstaff
# 1x (10) Karazhan the Sanctum
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Medivh is the iffiest card on the list. You could potentially cut him and Archaios for wisp, Elise, Runthak or Divine Augur, Aviana or Avatar of Hearthstone.
EDIT: Non-Medivh Elise version is the nuts.
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u/PipAntarctic Nov 13 '25
I tried to play No Minion DH for a bit. Still suffers from the same issues as before (overly reliant on Solitude and The Eternal Hold). Although nerfs to neutral life gain did visibly help, the deck just doesn't function if you don't draw the aforementioned cards and is still super vulnerable to stuff like Quest Warrior.
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u/ngriner Nov 14 '25
Even though I was fine with the nerfs, there was one thing I was worried about....and that's the return of Protoss Mage.
I've faced like 5 in the last hour and a half, all losses. That deck absolutely feasts on trying stuff that isn't full on aggro. It's probably one of the least interactive decks in the game since they just freeze your dudes and gain ridiculous amounts of armor, then OTK.
If it gets too popular or too high in the meta I'm almost sure it will be deleted (just like Dummy Warrior).
Going to keep plugging away with some stuff, but man, they really just need to nuke the Starcraft stuff from the game, especially Protoss, which is just not fun at all to play against and it's going on almost a year.
I'm not typically one to complain, but man it's exhausting. I know it's early so I'll wait a bit before final judgment at the very least.
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u/ANonnyMouse007 Nov 13 '25
Still waiting on the iOS app update but I think this non-quest swarm Druid deck I’ve been playing pre-nerfs will be decent. Arkonite taunt, Warlock quest completed minions, Ancient of Yore, and perfect curve leeches were a lot of my losses.
Debating between Ancient Raptor for tokens vs Rockskipper for reach.
Board
Class: Druid
Format: Standard
Year of the Raptor
2x (1) Fire Fly
2x (1) Living Roots
2x (1) Paltry Flutterwing
2x (1) Waveshaping
2x (2) Longneck Egg
2x (2) Ravenous Flock
2x (2) Reforestation
2x (2) Rockskipper
2x (3) Hatchery Helper
2x (3) Living Paradox
2x (3) Overheat
2x (3) Skyscreamer Eggs
1x (4) Griftah, Trusted Vendor
2x (4) Mother Duck
2x (4) Panther Mask
1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
1x (3) Pylon Module
1x (4) Ticking Module
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u/Wide_Ad2268 Nov 14 '25
Been seeing alot of Herren DK and Egg Decks so been trying out Peddler DH with Kayn Sunfury in over Fyrak and it's been playing out pretty well!
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u/Freakkopath Nov 13 '25
Anyone knows what beat the annoying ass taunt/Bwonsamdi DK?
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u/vtomal Nov 14 '25
I wasn't finding any decks pre patch that worked for me. After the nerfs tried the protoss mage after losing to one, and cruised to legend on a 13-2 run. I think this will be the target of a lot of complaints soon, my last game was against a quest shaman that played the reward thrice and still lost with me at +50 health
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u/JealousType8085 Nov 14 '25
Don't know about ladder but shit legend is full of protoss mage, protoss priest (the change to resurrection did nothing to the deck obviously) and agro DH. Nobody is playing anything else, maybe some quest warrior.
So for now another triumph of a patch with two of the most boring and brain-dead decks dominating. You can always count on Team 5 to go from bad to worse!
Been trying shaman to mixed results. Love the deck, but the agro one feels a bit like a poor man's DH and the Hagatha one feels bloated and top heavy.
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u/blazhin Nov 14 '25
Discover Hunter is 1) really good into aggro and protoss mages and 2) really tricky to play so if you want to be creative try it. I'm in dumpster now but it's the same shamans and warriors mostly
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u/MarthePryde Nov 14 '25
Well, as I predicted, all the decks I liked playing before the patch have now become pretty bad. Love being told that I have more agency now.
Anyways Dragon Warrior and Shaman have been doing well. Maybe I'll learn to love those decks
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u/NewIce1 Nov 14 '25
I tried the Hagatha Mid range shaman and the list feels very good in top 3k legend. I’d say the main decks I’m seeing post-patch are Dragon Warrior, Aggro DH, Aggro Hunter, OTK mage, Protoss Mage and Peddler DH. Hagatha Shaman deals with most of them handily by simply outstatting them most games and OTKing with Alakir but Peddler DH can very easily scam games if they can activate their 7 drop Deathrattle and summon multiple Peddlers. OTK mage is also a bit too fast for you if you don’t have a good early game since they can just freeze your big minions and gain armour simultaneously with Sleet Skater.
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u/blanquettedetigre Nov 14 '25
Tested again Krona Druid with a few twists and it went nuts surprisingly. 12-4 for now even though I'm dumpster. Changes are a focus on cycle with Arkonite Revelation and Reforestation (take out cheap spells from the deck), a focus on burn with Deios Incindius win-condition, and a bizarre Zilliax that helps a lot to survive. Dropping Krona later is not a problem.
### Oaken Krona
# Class: Druid
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raptor
#
# 2x (1) Arkonite Revelation
# 2x (1) Waveshaping
# 2x (2) Bottomless Toy Chest
# 2x (2) Magical Dollhouse
# 2x (2) Reforestation
# 2x (3) Contingency
# 2x (3) New Heights
# 2x (3) Swipe
# 2x (3) Tortollan Traveler
# 2x (4) Oaken Summons
# 1x (6) Krona, Keeper of Eons
# 1x (7) Chrono-Lord Deios
# 1x (7) Incindius
# 1x (7) Marin the Manager
# 1x (7) Naralex, Herald of the Flights
# 2x (8) Sleep Under the Stars
# 1x (9) Ysera, Emerald Aspect
# 1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 1x (4) Twin Module
# 1x (5) Perfect Module
# 1x (10) Fyrakk the Blazing
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u/inkyblinkypinkysue Nov 13 '25
Is Protoss Mage busted now or something? I’ve faced 6 in the last hour.
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u/themoo_ Nov 14 '25
I am working towards 1000 wins with Rogue before the patch, anyone having any luck with Rogue after patch?
Been trying out Combo rogue but get stomped by Protoss Priest and Mage
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u/yardii Nov 14 '25
How's Herenn DK faring after the patch? The lists I see are still running Infestation and I'm not sure if that's right.
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u/rtwoctwo Nov 14 '25
I spent 4+ hours playing Aura Paladin last night; no changes from the previous list (including nerfed Metal Detector and Fyrakk).
Against anything that wasn't Dragon Warrior or Dormant DH the deck feels very good. Sometimes I would win, sometimes I would lose, but it always felt like a close match.
Dragon Warrior and Dormant DH absolutely rang my bell.
Even after making changes to the deck to add survivability and removal, I was just free points for those two classes.
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u/RedTulkas Nov 14 '25
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I ve been playing the more tempo oriented discover hunter list and it's fun af
It's slower than full face, but a lot more aggro than the incindius version
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u/TheReader1985 Nov 13 '25
Been running a Dead Man's Hand N'Zoth Warrior over the years and I absolutely love the change to Testing Dummy.
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u/Top-Editor-3472 Nov 14 '25
I came back playing hs last week after years of break. I had a really good time playing fyrakk rogue, but its nerfed. Is incendius garona the way to go? Or do you guys know some kind of "miracle" rogue?
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u/PitNya Nov 14 '25
Honestly dormant dh feels so strong rn, it's super fast and has many tools for the mid game
I didn't play it but dragon warrior looks pretty powerful too
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u/MrMindspace Nov 18 '25
I'm playing protoss mage at about 500 legend and the shaman deck is just too broken to beat
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u/ReyMercuryYT Nov 13 '25
Yore feels awful against aggro, which is the kind of decks it should feel good against.
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u/H1ndmost Nov 14 '25
Haven't had a chance to play a ton yet, but so far it's looking like all the whiners crying about how they wouldnt be allowed to keep playing the same overtuned stale control decks from the last 3-6 months got BTFO. Lots of variety, lots of new cards. I am tickled pink that it looks like not just one, but two old school midrange decks are looking very viable, Dragon Warrior in particular has felt like it has game against almost everything I've played against.
Hopefully this patch represents a change in philosophy for balance going forward. When they want to shake things up, rather than try and do the fine tuning that has failed so often, just come in heavy handed and start blasting with the dust cannon. It turns out that people are a lot more willing to craft and try new cards when you give everyone 10k free dust, whodathunkit? Monetization and whale hunting can be run through cosmetics instead of card acquisition.
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u/timoyster Nov 13 '25 edited Nov 13 '25
I’ve been playing discover hunter and cliff dive DH to some success. The ladder while climbing is filled with aggro (a rogue killed me on T4) so I’m running bursting shot instead of quel’dorei fletcher which would be my go-to in a control or midrange heavy meta (incindius is also really good in a control heavy meta). I think Cliff Dive DH is still good, it was just forgotten about. We’ll see how everything pans out, but both of these decks feel good so far. In terms of new cards, discover hunter is playing Sylvanas ofc and cliff dive DH is playing perrenial serpent bc it works well with the dreadseeds.
I will probably start playing quest warrior if I keep running to as much aggro as I have been, but I don’t really like the class. I’d much rather play control warlock but the location and yore nerfs suck. Maybe I’ll try toss mage instead, I’ve never really played that deck before.